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Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride

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botemp · 02/07/2023 22:09

Lovers of Parisian style and fashion with a conscious mindset and lots of chatter in between.


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CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 22/11/2023 10:16

Oh, sorry! Harper was a Grenson boot that isn’t available any more. Bought and worn in a hurry a couple of years ago - I’m Still Not Sure about them. Apart from a problem with the tongue (which they’ll fix if I ever get round to posting them back) they’re wondrously bouncy to wear. But my mirror tells me there’s just a tiny bit too much ‘bovver’ about them to suit how I want to look. I need either acres of lace or a skin tight knit to feminise them, which is a bore when I reach for a pair of trousers.

Hasn’t stopped me lusting after subsequent iterations. Hmm

Btw - it is sheer cruelty to mention Guidi within my sight. I know I won’t live long enough to ever possess a pair …

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botemp · 22/11/2023 10:29

Hmm, I once ordered some heeled Alec boots from Ann D and they came up small but that might have been down to my high arches, but I definitely remember them being tight everywhere and I think it was even half size larger than my usual size, I had anticipated them being too big but they were one of those Matches bargains you had to jump on of 70% off and an extra % off and just back in stock type things.

But if men's boots come up larger, are these somewhat similar men's Ann D boots a possibility in 40.5, currently an extra 20% off with code BF-20-XTR. (Taxes included, but shipping probably isn't the cheapest).

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botemp · 22/11/2023 10:36

Oh actually, I got an extra 30% off at Antonioli in my inbox just now, code is BF-30-NTN, not sure if it'll work on those boots but one of them should work.

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Floisme · 22/11/2023 12:44

I got the Phoebe Philo second phase email too by the way, must be cos I'm such a good customer Smile I don't think I'll be spending all day refreshing the link this time but I'm still curious.

Floisme · 22/11/2023 12:55

Just checking out those Arket Shore jeans Desmond. They do seem nice and slouchy but in that photo they look pretty low rise to me - is it accurate?

MmePoppy Poetry can look so appealing online but I don't think I've ever kept anything I've ordered from them. I agree with you about it not meriting the higher prices.

MmePoppySeedDefage · 22/11/2023 13:16

I love those Anne D high boots!

Regarding buying men's boots, Caroline Criado Perez used to send out a free newsletter and she explained in one how different women's feet are from men's- not just size but shape and flexibility so we need our own womanly shoes. CC-P seems to have put it behind a paywall now though you can get 7 days free access.

microbius · 22/11/2023 15:22

bo, aren't you a true beau! The codes don't work on top of the 50% discount, but it's a good discount.
I am now agonising whether to get 40.5 or 42. It's astonishing that there is absolutely no guidance such as a size chart or maybe measurements that I can find online for any d. boots, men or women!

botemp · 22/11/2023 15:33

Ah, annoying, it does say selected styles, I guess it's not selected. If you can afford the outlay, you could order both, then you get free shipping and I think returns are free and they don't do exchanges. I don't know about size guides, the Matches one clearly wasn't right going by my experience, maybe Ssense does a decent one? For most styles they usually recommend sizing one down but for the heeled Alec's I really needed a size up 🤷

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EffortlessDesmond · 22/11/2023 15:59

Floisme, they're not quite as low rise as the image. On me, they sit at the base of my belly button, which is where I like them. There's another style, Lark Loose, which was a little higher-waisted and even slouchier but on me, at 5'5", they were a bit too loose, to the point of being shapeless! They were returned. I think Arket sizes come up quite large too; I could have worn a size down.

Floisme · 22/11/2023 16:09

Thanks Desmond, it's so interesting how different we all are when it comes to low/high rise. For me, the top of my belly button or slightly higher feels ideal, the base is right at the edge of my tolerance, and anything below that gets increasingly uncomfortable - and I don't do uncomfortable.

microbius · 22/11/2023 16:50

Thanks to hanging around here and following various links, I've learned that I am short-waisted (I previously thought I was very long legged instead :)) So high waisted trousers/skirts, when I sit down, go straight to my ribs as I don't have very much space in my lower torso. I think that dimension is what determines how low rise-mid rise-high rise feel?

Bo, thank you very very much for finding these. I ordered 40.5 as realistically men's 42 will be too spacious. I will report.

I hear you, Poppy, about Caroline Criado Perez. And though I haven't read those sections, I have my serious doubts as to how well the female shoe industry serves women (and me in particular). And of course, it's not only the design/sizing in relation to old beauty standards / traditional gender roles etc but women - maybe, hopefully, not today's youth - are trained to accept a bit of pain, "to suffer for beauty" as my cousin told me at 14. To even get to the point of not wearing uncomfortable things took me a while.

Sorry it's becoming another very long post. flo, there is uncertainty in my relation with clothes, sometimes I know exactly what I want, and sometimes I feel that maybe I ought to want it? It's like this with high knee boots. Apart from things I won't be able to stand (too wide shafts flapping around) some of the riding boots looks very nice in pics (Ayede but also Jil Sander is in the £££ territory of Ann D boots) and I really don't know whether I should have more sleekness or less sleekness in my boot wardrobe. Ann D's excite me, remind me of my youth and I think can help style down some fanciness in the outfit I might not want. I hang out a lot with artists and academics, both generally not well paid occupations, and I don't want to look overdressed. I also have been trained to be neat and that is a true downfall for style, matchyness and neatness. Sorry again for the endless post

Redandblue11 · 23/11/2023 18:17

Been too busy to post, I think you probably found boots now micro
but yeah, I ordered last year (or year before..) two pairs of grenson that I did not like.
they felt too ‘clunky’ , stiff and I wasn’t sure if they would become softer, there was something about them that I just didn’t like when I tried them.

Redandblue11 · 24/11/2023 16:50

I have a couple of photos to share, I was in my local dress agency and someone just had left this leather skirt made of the softest leather you have ever felt, still with all the tags. The shop owner the had not priced it yet but she let me try it. It is slightly big for me at the waist but the belt helps with that.
Ignore the white cami bits coming through from under that blue top that I was also trying.
I also tried this aran hand knitted cardigan.
I wasn’t after those bits, I was after trousers so I carried on (trying to be on a track and only buy stuff I was actually planning to buy)
But here are the photos for your general amusement.

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Floisme · 24/11/2023 17:06

I applaud your self control, Red, I'd have probably snapped up them both, which is why I think I'll have to avoid my dress agency until 2024.

CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 24/11/2023 17:07

Gosh, is that honestly leather, @Redandblue11? It’s absolutely beautiful. Please say you bought it?

How I miss dress agencies. I used to live near Bath, and Saturday morning would find me in Bradford on Avon, prowling the antiques stores, eating cake, and spending hours trying on Yves Saint Laurent, etc in the very wonderful vintage / secondhand / whatever place.

Redandblue11 · 24/11/2023 17:27

More than self control is lack of funds flo as we have had a big spends recently on big ticket items.
Yes crkd real leather. As I said I do not know the price yet but it will be hundreds still as original price tag is well over a thousand and is literally pristine. I will be the first to know how much they will put it on for, the owner of the shops knows me well i practically live in there so when I hear I will decide …

MmePoppySeedDefage · 24/11/2023 22:35

Gosh... our dress agency has nothing like that. What a gorgeous skirt. The cardigan is nice, too.

Floisme · 25/11/2023 16:01

Thank you and you are a very bad influence Crkd Smile I'm holding firm but it looks fab. If I went out in it and didn't get at least a screentest for a Richard Curtis film, I'd feel very hard done by.

I wonder if it's a Sara Tiara hat? I've lost a few hours of her life on her website these last few months and it definitely has that look, plus I think she's based in the New Forest.

Floisme · 25/11/2023 16:16

Cheeky buggers, no wonder they're not mentioning her by name!

I'm a bit disconcerted at how quickly I recognised her style though. I must get a new hobby....

CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 25/11/2023 16:30

Seems harmless!

I wasn’t familiar with the brand - and am now rather sorry no one has invited me to look splendid at a Winter wedding … I might just get one of those little headbands to wear for normal days.

Floisme · 27/11/2023 12:27

My big winter wedding outfit would be the Highland Duchess hat, which I think I've linked before. Everything else I'd find from my wardrobe. No-one shows any sign of obliging me though.

I wonder how often Plumo do that - feature a small maker and then whack up the price?

EffortlessDesmond · 27/11/2023 19:25

I suspect lots of re-selling sites with a good eye and a broader audience do it flo.

red if you don't buy that skirt, you lose all your accumulated fashionista points: it's fantastic.

Galiana · 29/11/2023 00:51

Loving the pictures and the chat.

@Redandblue11 buy that skirt, it's brilliant.

I'm on a no-buy, I have so many Clothes that are brilliant, I'm doing a 'wear you clothes' thing.

I keep reading Vogue about New Season and thinking 'I've got it'.

I. Am. Not. Buying. Anymore. Clothes. For. A. While.

I've just had to get extra wardrobe insurance for my clothes. I'm going to wear the fuckers.

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