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Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride

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botemp · 02/07/2023 22:09

Lovers of Parisian style and fashion with a conscious mindset and lots of chatter in between.


Favoured Parisian addresses:

Second Hand Shops

Outlets

Favoured London addresses:

Charity Shops, Dress Agencies, and Outlets

Favoured NYC addresses:

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Floisme · 13/08/2023 11:33

Fair.

Redandblue11 · 13/08/2023 11:54

I also want to know and see Ginger’s channel skirt.

I have only very occasionally offered advise is s&b threads, and has been completely ignored. A tiny puf in the massive explosion. Not noticed. 🙄

Yesterday I got from my local dress agency a denim top from for all mankind, on paper not my think, but attracted me and I tried it on. The front has a batik style print on soft denim and gathered sleeves in denim . Feels and looks very easy to wear. I got it as part of payment from a couple of dresses I sold there that no longer fit.
I must go through more stuff and sell really.

Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 12:15

I have it ..and it fits...
Will send a photo ASAP.

quirkychick · 13/08/2023 12:20

Yes, it helps if people specify budgets. I think you can get accused of recommending expensive items as well as accused of recommending fast fashion.

I think re: Dark Academia, it's a bit of a throw back to 90s/00s style. I do like to mix up stuff and gave a penchant for vintage, but would definitely not want to look like I'm in costume. I do like tweed jackets, caps, trousers etc I just wouldn't wear them altogether.

Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 12:58

This is the Chanel skirt
Apologies for my dreadful photography skills and many thanks for the advice.

Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride
Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride
quirkychick · 13/08/2023 13:00

@Gingerwarthog that's a beautiful shape and colour.

Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 13:08

Thanks @quirkychick
This era (early 90s) was such a great, fun time for mr and wearing this brings that back?
It's purple and happy and wafts when I walk.

Redandblue11 · 13/08/2023 14:15

I have a similar shape one from years back LK Bennet in blush pink, this year I found it and put it out thinking that I could wear it again for work.
I like how yours looks with that ivory top ginger. It looks blue on my phone but purple would look great. Glad that it all worked out for you.

NatashaDancing · 13/08/2023 15:20

Floisme · 13/08/2023 11:10

I must admit, I never spent more than H&M prices on my teenager (when he was one). But he recently bought himself some Joseph Cheaney shoes so I must have been doing something right.

Discounting school uniform the most I ever spent on my son as a teenager was a Swedish Navy greatcoat from Laurence Corner. It was a bit big on him then but 16 year's later he has gone upwards but barely anything outwards so it still fits.

He started buying his own non school clothes around 15 and as a point of principle buys everything apart from underwear from second hand shops.

He was horrified at around 17 or 18 when I offered to buy him a velvet jacket from Jack Wills - his horror was on the basis Jack Wills was , at that time, selling at inflated prices the ready made, new version of what he spent ages going round second hand and charity shops to acquire at a fraction of the cost. He was right.

EffortlessDesmond · 13/08/2023 16:14

So pleased that Ginger's Chanel skirt has come up a triumphant success.

DS and I spent a few minutes this morning editing his shirts, mostly bought when he was pipecleaner thin at 16, so there are a selection of rather nice Singapore-tailored shirts and trousers going to the charity shop. He's filled out recently so there's no chance of them ever fitting again, and I am very relieved the borderline anorexia is behind us. The party coat and brocade tux now fit beautifully, but he does need to shop for a few odds and ends. Shoes not being among them; he has shockingly Parisienne footwear preferences, but any nice loafers you spot in a mens 10...

EffortlessDesmond · 13/08/2023 16:18

The silk top is lovely, Quirky. Just very useful, and sort of B&SH.

botemp · 13/08/2023 17:22

Sorry to hear your DS is/was struggling with that Desmond Flowers Good to hear he's doing better.

Ginger, so glad to hear it fits <wipes away the nervous sweat>. Amazingly it's exactly the colour I thought it would be, but I did think it would be a more of a straight model so the swing in it is nice to see, it really gives you a nice shape. Hope you can take it out somewhere nice. Or just to your local supermarket, whatever works Grin

Quirky, WRT Dark Academia, it's just that it's one of those internet trends where I always question if it actually exists outside of the internet. It is an interesting one, in a cultural phenomenon kind of way, it seemed to sort of flow out of history bounding but it really took flight in the pandemic where along with cottagecore it served as a form of escapism.

Its origins do seem to be American Anglophiles with a penchant for historical costuming (sprinkled with a bit of Hogwarts but they'll never acknowledge that formally for reasons). It's also heavily coded with asexuality, not using that as a pejorative but in the self identified Ace kind of way which I suppose tie into a response to MeToo and young women suddenly sort of discovering a new brand of feminism.

At the risk of Flo biting my head off, it seems to have reached the my mum's into it now so I'm not into it anymore point but I think it's probably more that it's hollowed out through an ever expanding interpretation which seems more in line with the decline of an internet thing. Scattering as opposed to the ubiquity threshold for traditional fashion trends.

The new feminism aspect has been hoovered up quite definitively now with Barbie feminism which for the moment seems and odd definition of feminism=feminity, I'm a bit Hmm about it but simultaneously curious to see where it'll go. Post pandemic that whole Ace thing isn't all that prominent anymore so at the moment Dark Academia just kind of comes across in a way that British women (and Anglophones elsewhere) of roughly middle age have dressed for ages, just rebranded.

I am curious though, but am too lazy to go read pages of it, have there been actual academics who've come on the thread to decry that no academic goes round dressing like that. I ask mostly because those Scandi Architect threads always make my eyes twitch...

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missmoon · 13/08/2023 17:37

I haven't commented on the other thread, but as an academic, there are lots of people where I work who dress like that, the only exception being the business school (which is full of sharp suits). Although to be honest pretty much anything goes, and nobody bats an eyelid.

botemp · 13/08/2023 17:52

Interesting missmoon, I can definitely see how some would fit into it (in that it's been an established style before it was called DA) but I could also see someone could get annoyed with it when it feels borderline parody.

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quirkychick · 13/08/2023 17:59

I think I dressed somewhat like that as a student in the 90s and then as a teacher in the 90s and 00s. It didn't have that name then, more part of the general alternative/vintage look I think. I think the art to not looking like a parody is to mix in more modern pieces, but maybe that's just me.

EffortlessDesmond · 13/08/2023 18:03

It's a more mainstream version of the 2010 steam punk look. Quite like to see it, but I wouldn't wear it.

EffortlessDesmond · 13/08/2023 18:05

Thanks bo.

botemp · 13/08/2023 18:15

EffortlessDesmond · 13/08/2023 18:03

It's a more mainstream version of the 2010 steam punk look. Quite like to see it, but I wouldn't wear it.

And Grunge before that which seems to be what a lot are emulating within that 90s aesthetic that's favoured by the young at the moment. Albeit a somewhat softer version of Grunge. The preppy aspect of Dark Academia seems to have migrated into the Quiet Luxury. Hmm, going by the timeline, should we anticipate a revival of punk, or soft punk which I can't help but instantly dub spunk Blush

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Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 18:21

Thank you all.
My Thing of Beauty will be worn on every possible occasion!

Redandblue11 · 13/08/2023 19:22

Great to hear that ginger!
ok, I need some advice. I have been going thru clothes etc to put to charity / dress agency / keep.
Has it ever happened to you that you buy something, you like it, it doesn’t get worn much (maybe once or twice), then a few years later it feels that it might have a place in your life? Maybe your new life or your perspective has changed to allow enjoying it? Or am I going to think , yes I like it and still not wear it?
two examples here:
long skirt, heavy cotton, hand made with African fabric, it is a bit big on my waist.

heavy linen coat, YSL, bought in a vintage shop in the south of France years ago.

Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride
Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride
botemp · 13/08/2023 19:42

Oh I'd find it really hard to part with that YSL coat but I also kind of envision someone like mm carrying it off really well with her silver hair. I think for you it requires a bit more thought to carry it off as effortless with the darker hair contrast so maybe that's why you don't grab for it that quickly?

The skirt looks overly long, I guess that's down to the waist coming up big and it all sitting lower. I'd probably get rid of that because if you've not bothered getting it altered until now you won't be bothered the next time you want to wear it.

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NatashaDancing · 13/08/2023 20:14

Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 18:21

Thank you all.
My Thing of Beauty will be worn on every possible occasion!

It is a thing of beauty indeed.

Gingerwarthog · 13/08/2023 20:56

Thank you @NatashaDancing

Redandblue11 · 14/08/2023 08:23

Interesting observations Bo, Yes I will find very hard to part with the coat I never thought of the high contrast of my hair colour against certain pieces, good one to keep in mind . I will have a think how to wear more effortlessly.

Yes, the skirt is not only big at waist but also long , even if the waist is sorted. And you are right… never bothered altering it ….

Redandblue11 · 14/08/2023 08:28

Apologies I did not want to ignore, the conversation about dark academia - well Ignored it because I have never been attracted to it, and I don’t really know exactly what it is. I vaguely have a picture in my head of Harry Potter (which I loved as books) but that is about it.
Very glad your DS is better desmond. Horrid and worrying conditions are the eating disorders.

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