If you met a woman in her 50s without many wrinkles or "11s"....

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.... would you assume she had had Botox? This isn't a stealth brag btw, I am not referring to myself (though I have not had Botox). Just a general and random question.

Also, would it make a difference if the woman was Asian or black?

Sadly dancers usually have knackered feet!

Yes, was going to say her joints have probably suffered a bit too ☹️

Yea she has arthritis (hands and feet) but then my mum had it from ankles to her neck.

It's the professional ballet dancers who often have problems with hips and need replacements at an early age. Otherwise lots of older people take up ballet in their elder years and derive a lot of health benefits, that outweighs any negatives, from it.

Oh yes the benefits of doing ballet when you get older are obvious - a bit like tai chi. I saw a video of a woman (in the 70s I think) who had just passed her (grade 1?) first ballet exam and it was lovely to see her move so gracefully.

I have the moves of Frankenstein’s monster.

I thinks lots of ballet dancers used to end up with serious mobility issues but hopefully with modern understanding of the body they do stay in good shape now. I used to do ballet classes as an adult and loved it, it took total concentration and really used to refresh my mind, I was good at it as well as I have good balance and am flexible, sadly there isn't much call for ballerinas built like baby hippos😥

I dont have much. Very feint lines on forehead, a few lines round eyes and not much 11's tbh. Im 54 and never had botox.

faint

I see someone at the check out in my local supermarket. You can clearly see she is older and has had botox or something as she has a shiny tight forehead that is unnatural. She also barely moves her mouth and has definitely had something done to her lips.