Snag Tights email

[WoodSageandSeasalt]

Fully prepared to get slaughtered for this but here goes.

I've bought tights from Snag before (and really like them) so I'm obviously on their mailing list. I'm a shortarsed size 16-18 so very far from a supermodel.

They've emailed this morning to advertise their new knicker range with images of women wearing them in all their glory and it really wasn't what I wanted in my inbox on a Friday morning. My own wobbly cellulite covered arse is bad enough, I don't need to look at other people's.

It feels like the whole 'body positivity' thing is going too far to me, I'm all for people being comfortable in their own skin but does that have to involve sharing it with the rest of the world? Leaving aside the fact it's not generally healthy to be over a certain size - and that includes me.

I like these shots. Snag tights is because most tights in other shops just do not fit fat people. Im not even massively fat and i really do struggle with tights. I am no more offended seeing fat peoples arses in ads than i am thin peoples.
If you dont want to see fat models then dont look at fat peoples stores. Noones forcing you.

I just bought them because they had a lot of different colours. I don't want to see anyone's bum in my inbox, size 10 or size 24.

Their models are obese because over time theyve clearly realised thats the gap in the market.
If a thin woman can fit into any tights in primark or topshop then shes not going to pay extra for snag tights
Jeez. Cant fat people have ANYTHING?

@JanisMoplin

I just bought them because they had a lot of different colours. I don't want to see anyone's bum in my inbox, size 10 or size 24.

Theres usually an unsubscribe button.

They obviously have enough customers. Maybe the women who are sending the photos in and tagging snag in social media just feel great in the tights
It's hard enough to be obese without threads like this, we know we are fat, my eyes work perfectly and I have mirrors

It's just a bit...
nobody has a go at evans for promoting obesity because that's for "others, the fat people" but then people who could shop at snag won't, because "it could be for us but we don't like they only advertise fat women so I won't shop there"
I don't complain when everything I could buy is advertised on a size 6-8
If people buy the tights and tag them in photos, they will share them and then it becomes a bigger range of people

In fact im gonna order some snag tights now.

@Branleuse I know and I have. I was just responding to whoever said upthread that customers would like to look at bums if they are size 8. I don't think most women want to look at any bums thrust in their faces or legs in the air. It is a fairly unappealing aesthetic I think. Who is their customer? Very puzzling.

www.asos.com/search/?q=thong

these are the thongs on ASOS. Deliberatly provacative, pornographic? disgusting? Or so normal that it barely registers?

Its taken so many years for me to get over my eating disorder and see my body as neutral or nice, and I really appreciate seeing bigger women body confident and looking quite nice actually. It gives a big fuck you to restrictive beauty standards, and if it makes you uncomfortable, then its not as if you dont have pretty much the entire rest of the clothes shops to cater to your thin fetish.

There was a thread on here only yesterday incredulous that John Lewis had used someone with a small tummy overhang to advertise a pair of knickers - SURELY noone would buy pants advertised on a model who tbh still looked about a size 10 or 12?
Fat women are treated appallingly by society.

@Branleuse

Their models are obese because over time theyve clearly realised thats the gap in the market. If a thin woman can fit into any tights in primark or topshop then shes not going to pay extra for snag tights Jeez. Cant fat people have ANYTHING?

But the point is is that a lot of 'thin' women can't fit into high street shop tights. Not comfortably anyways. I can't get a pair that fit me properly on the high street but I can from snag as you buy based on height and weight, which is quite rare.

Their product isn't exclusively aimed at larger women. Their product isn't exclusively aimed at women at all. It's aimed at everyone, however they don't depict this in their marketing.

It would be great to see a whole range of models.

It would be great to see a whole range of models

Agree - it’s what their own website claims to be about (although it’s patently not). I’d also like to see women advertising the products- not sitting on a classroom desk for an upskirt photo or where a pleather bra they don’t even sell is more on display than the tights that they do sell.

im sure you know what a pair of tights or a thong looks like on a thin model already. This thread was started because someone was horrified to see fat womens arses on an email for a fat positive brand, on an email they had subscribed to.

@bcc89

I wouldn't complain if it was a size 10 bum, personally. My personal bother with the company is the promotion of morbid obesity.

Exactly me too. It's not ok to promote it like this. I also think that it wouldn't be good to use models with anorexia either. That's what I meant when I said the whole thing is a bit woke

They are not just a fat positive brand - they also purport to be an age/gender/height/ability positive brand, although there’s very little evidence of that on their SM and website (SM esp). If they’re going to promote themselves as all-inclusive then they need to stop pushing the young, obese, soft porn, fetish vibe and start appealing to the wide market they claim to be supporting.

they clearly are moving more towards fat positivity.

As a small independent brand with a niche market, its odd how the people that are normally very well catered for everywhere else are outraged.
If they still sell the tights in smaller sizes then theyre still catered for arent they. You just have to look at them advertised on a fat woman. None of those pictures are soft porn. They are the same as any other underwear models. You just have a problem with it because they are fat.
Start your own shop if it bothers you so much

using a fat model is not promoting obesity. Its showing how the tights fit on a fat woman.

Mind you, I saw an advert on Molke though where they used a woman with a stoma, and now I really want a stoma to be trendy.

@SirChenjins

They are not just a fat positive brand - they also purport to be an age/gender/height/ability positive brand, although there’s very little evidence of that on their SM and website (SM esp). If they’re going to promote themselves as all-inclusive then they need to stop pushing the young, obese, soft porn, fetish vibe and start appealing to the wide market they claim to be supporting.

When companies say this, they don't actually mean they want to be inclusive of everyone, they mean they want to be inclusive of people who will bring attention to their brand.

I know of a hairdressers who is very active on SM - they claim their USP is 'no judgement' but from what I have seen of their socials, if a size 14 'frumpy'40 year old woman walked in with greasy hair and just wanted a cut and blow dry, I get the feeling they would be quite judgemental?

I've un followed on Facebook as I was fed up of arses in my feed. I couldn't browse in public comfortably. It's annoying I really don't want 5o look at pictures of bums big or small and I agree with it feeling pornographic.

I don't understand why they don't use a range of models.
I'm a size 10 / small 12. I'm not skinny. I'm quite short, have a wobbly bum with lots of cellulite, and have a belly with a c section overhang. So no I'm not obese or even officially overweight. But my body isn't represented on their website. Nor is my body represented on standard fashion brand websites either.
I like to think there are more women out there around my size than the size of the plus size models than they use, because the majority of women aren't obese. So why not represent me too?

@pootlingalonginthesun

I don't understand why they don't use a range of models. I'm a size 10 / small 12. I'm not skinny. I'm quite short, have a wobbly bum with lots of cellulite, and have a belly with a c section overhang. So no I'm not obese or even officially overweight. But my body isn't represented on their website. Nor is my body represented on standard fashion brand websites either. I like to think there are more women out there around my size than the size of the plus size models than they use, because the majority of women aren't obese. So why not represent me too?

Because you could buy tights from pretty much anywhere and theyd fit you fine

@Branleuse

they clearly are moving more towards fat positivity.

As a small independent brand with a niche market, its odd how the people that are normally very well catered for everywhere else are outraged.
If they still sell the tights in smaller sizes then theyre still catered for arent they. You just have to look at them advertised on a fat woman. None of those pictures are soft porn. They are the same as any other underwear models. You just have a problem with it because they are fat.
Start your own shop if it bothers you so much

They don’t need to move towards fat positivity (a lot of the models are obese, not fat), young, obese women are already very well represented on there. They need to rebalance their marketing and move towards the other types of positivity they claim to support (but don’t). I suspect it’s a load of BS though, because they’re not actually just about the tights and as @Omicrone rightly says, they don’t actually mean it when they say they are age positive, or height positive, or whatever else they’re claiming to be.

@pootlingalonginthesun - I’m a similar body shape but also have the audacity to be in my 50s. I am so far off their inclusive target market as to be invisible.

@SirChenjins....

@Branleuse I’m fat, and it’s not the models’ bodies or their size I don’t like; it’s the porny fetish vibe with the upskirt crotch shots, leather, men’s bum cracks, cross-dressed men wearing fishnets, shots up the bum crack (women too), OnlyFans style posing on beds stuff that doesn’t appeal to me.

I don’t know how you look at some of the images posted on the thread and don’t see the porn vibe? Do fatter women really want to look like a cheap readers’ wives shot? I know I don’t. I’d rather see nice underwear modelled with the tights as if larger women (shock!) can be elegant and well dressed, and not just represented as a porny bum in red mesh fake-suspenders. Some of those photos make Ann Summers look like Rigby & Peller in comparison!

@TheSnootiestFox yes, you posted about this model earlier and I had a look on their SM. There are other posts featuring her on there too.

@Branleuse you say that, but most of the tights that I buy fall down or I get a low hanging crotch.
I'd like to see a model my shape wearing the products. What's wrong with that? If they sell my size?

Diversity is only ever drag and fat.

I have religious friends who would be put off buying from Snag because of the marketing. And believe me, us orthodox Jewish women love our tights!