moonshine I have the gabis in both cord and twill, and I wear my usual size 12 in both, although I would say the cord is a neater fit than the twill - but that may be because I've had the twill at least three years, and some were from eBay, so they've had a lot more wear. Last year was the first time I had cord and I bought them new. I couldn't size down as the waist would then not go over my bum, quite frankly, although when they are on, there is more than enough room in the bum, hips and thighs, possibly slightly too much in the thighs, but not terribly so. Re length - they would definitely leave a bare bit if I didn't have socks on, and I'm 5'7. However, even in Scotland I wear them all winter, with either docs (where I need to tuck them under slightly to sit in the right place), or with brogues and socks. But I am a happy sock-flasher, which isn't to everyone's taste.