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Canada Goose - too hot for London?

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londonmummy1234 · 04/02/2021 22:01

I brought myself a Canada Goose Mystique Parka... it was pricey at £1100 but apparently lasts forever blah blah.
It arrived today and it feels really hot and heavy to wear but all the other mums in London seem to be wearing CG?!
What's people's experiences with it and if too hot can they offer an alternative?
Looking for a long coat and padded! Thanks

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lojojomo · 06/02/2021 08:50

Actual human slaves. cite

Canada Goose - too hot for London?
PBJelly · 06/02/2021 08:55

Just wanted to say something in here on the wool issue @stealthbanana @LadyWithLapdog @eaglejulesk

I agree it’s quite a complicated area, it’s not just about the shearing.

There are some sheep that are kept in good conditions, and there are some that aren’t. As consumers we can try and buy wool that is more ethical and look for how it’s produced. However this can be difficult to ascertain and there’s no guarantee - there have been cases of horrible treatment of sheep even in ‘ethical’ farms (Patagonia reported this issue in one of their ‘ethical’ farms).

Mulesing is a cruel practice, but a lot of farms are moving away from this and you can buy mulesing free wool. So another thing consumers can do.

It’s difficult to separate wool production from meat production - many farms will have income from selling lambs for meat as well as from wool, so if you don’t agree with eating meat, you may not want to buy wool. The two industries are closely intertwined. Sheep reach an age where they’re not as ‘useful’ and this is another issue - when they’re not able to produce as much milk/continue producing lambs etc they will be sold for meat or to continue to produce wool - but often on less ethical a farms.

It’s a bit like leather - some people who don’t eat meat wear leather, as they think leather is just a by-product. In fact, in many farms the income is quite evenly split for both products - leather and meat. That meat wouldn’t be profitable without the leather also being sold - you could say meat is a by-product of leather. So buying leather supports the meat industry and vice versa.

IMO as a vegan, I don’t buy new wool. I do buy second hand wool and recycled wool. I can however see that theoretically wool could be OK (nice farm, high welfare standards, sheep not killed at the end of their useful lifespans, lambs not killed for meat) but this doesn’t exist in reality - it’s an industry. Whenever you make an industry out of animals, they’re exploited. Some industries are worse than others, but essentially once animals are being used to make money it’s money that will be the primary consideration rather than animal welfare. The only ethical wool production I know of is Izzy Lane - a no-kill sheep farm with sheep rescued from other farms.

shop.izzylane.com/

I thought this was a good piece on it and offers a more nuanced analysis on things - it’s a vegan blog and they talk about wool being a difficult area theminimalistvegan.com/is-wool-vegan/

lojojomo · 06/02/2021 08:59

Human beings.

PBJelly · 06/02/2021 08:59

@huuuuunnnndderrricks Uniqlo use factories that use forced labour of the Uighur in Xinjiang (as do many other companies, there was a post on this recently). Sexual abuse and rape is endemic in the forced labour camps.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/4155818-lovely-clothes-but-at-what-cost

PegasusReturns · 06/02/2021 09:02

I’m going to concentrate on the being cold. I really feel the cold so don’t find CG to warm for London but I do think there are more stylish coats out there.

I’d love to be one of this people who could stroll around in a jumper and wool coat but I think I’d freeze to death.

pollylocketpickedapocket · 06/02/2021 09:03

@Highfalutinlootin

Prepare to be roasted metaphorically in addition to apparently physically. Mumsnet hates Canada Goose presumably because they dare to be too expensive.
Nothing to do with the appalling treatment of animals then?
stealthbanana · 06/02/2021 09:15

@LadyWithLapdog fair enough, you prefer your brand of passive aggression instead Hmm

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 06/02/2021 09:16

East London here and can confirm it's a drug dealer's coat. Although I told mine about animal cruelty involved and he's stopped wearing it.

I'm amazed you live in London and didn't know about the animal cruelty links. Pre Rona there was almost constantly a gaggle of people protesting in central about them. Made it very hard to shop on regent's street without getting swept away by them.

LadyWithLapdog · 06/02/2021 09:16

@PBJelly very well put and thanks for an excellent blog article too.

FamilyOfAliens · 06/02/2021 09:18

@Highfalutinlootin

Prepare to be roasted metaphorically in addition to apparently physically. Mumsnet hates Canada Goose presumably because they dare to be too expensive.
No, it’s the animal cruelty involved.
Noshowlomo · 06/02/2021 09:21

These coats are basically animal torture coats. Avoid.
I don’t see how any fur can be responsibly sourced. Isn’t it coyote fur trim? So basically dog fur.

Namechangeforcoat · 06/02/2021 10:57

What's people's experiences with it and if too hot can they offer an alternative?

www.parkasite.de/english/special_production/special_down_coat/arktera_coat_e/arktera_coat_e.htm

RhusTox · 06/02/2021 11:04

Please, please explain in your opinion how long is "not too long" for an animal to experience having its fur or feathers pulled out by the roots.

5 minutes? Ten? 45 seconds?
Try it on your own hair and let us know how you get on .

rorosemary · 06/02/2021 12:19

@CuntAmongstThePigeons

East London here and can confirm it's a drug dealer's coat. Although I told mine about animal cruelty involved and he's stopped wearing it.

I'm amazed you live in London and didn't know about the animal cruelty links. Pre Rona there was almost constantly a gaggle of people protesting in central about them. Made it very hard to shop on regent's street without getting swept away by them.

You told your drug dealer to stop wearing his coat Grin?
iveturnedintoachip · 06/02/2021 12:35

I don't know anyone who wears one (also SW London) they aren't a particular cool brand because of the fur.

LadyWithLapdog · 06/02/2021 12:51

@rorosemary I saw that too. Against Animal cruelty but turning a blind eye to the human cost of the drug trade. TBF we all draw the line somewhere. It’s easier on a practical level to avoid animal products full stop than to look into the ethics of every item we purchase.

BML123 · 06/02/2021 12:57

I have a Flavio Castellani padded black down filled coat with a fox fur trim. I brought it in Italy about 4 years ago and worn every winter since. Stylish very practical and about 1/4 of the price of CG. If you go to the continent and the Alps fur is commonplace. I do not tell other people what to do or think and I expect the same tolerance from other people!

londonmummy1234 · 06/02/2021 13:06

@rorosemary hahahah GrinGrin

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DavidsSchitt · 06/02/2021 13:14

@CuntAmongstThePigeons seriously 🤦🏽‍♀️

londonmummy1234 · 06/02/2021 14:17

I didn't see the protests as I've been avoiding the west end for quite a while.

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RedHotChiliChips · 06/02/2021 15:00

Have you looked at Helly Hansen padded coats? I have one, it's semi long as in goes over the bum, it's very warm but light to wear and I like the sporty look too.

lockdownalli · 06/02/2021 16:18

If you want to look better than all the drug dealing London mumz, I would go for Moncler, or Balenciaga if you are really going for it Grin

www.brownsfashion.com/uk/shopping/woman/coats-parkas

CruCru · 06/02/2021 17:17

This thread has gone a bit off track. I have a Landsend down parka which is too hot when the temperature is higher than 5C but is delicious when it does get properly cold. I wouldn’t want a CG coat because I’d feel terrible having spent all that money on a coat that I could only wear for a few weeks in London. Plus I am a bit funny about wearing a label that people know is expensive - there have been people mugged for their CG coats in Soho.

The Maxmarra coat sounds very nice. I do like a nice coat.

Coffeepot72 · 06/02/2021 18:02

I recently bought a superdry parka with fur lined hood, for £139. I love it, it’s a thick heavy coat and is great if its 10 degrees or lower, but at anything higher you’d melt. I’m not convinced the uk ever gets cold enough for CG?

Changechangychange · 06/02/2021 18:04

Used to live in Toronto. People wore a lot of CG there. It was -20. You would roast wearing a CG down coat when it’s +10 in London.

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