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More Style Less Susie

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WineGetsMeThroughIt · 24/08/2020 18:50

What happened to the latest thread? Why was it taken down? Wondering now if one of her crew are admin on here lol

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glowinthebark · 01/09/2020 06:18

@ABCyouandme

Are we really all ok with this?

"she comes across as quite pathetic"
"her clients look like dog shit"
"she needs to get a stylist"
"must be crying in her curry tonight"
"she screams of desperation".

Were these comments on Mumsnet?
Ironfloor269 · 01/09/2020 06:25

www.facebook.com/groups/317619026220300/?ref=share

Link to the Style Sisterhood group.

ABCyouandme · 01/09/2020 06:27

@glowinthebark yep, all from this thread.

glowinthebark · 01/09/2020 06:40

I recall the curry comment but not the others.

No, I'm not ok with that.

I'm also not ok with the Daily Mail, who Susie writes for.

Bishybarnybee · 01/09/2020 06:43

I have felt a revulsion towards mumsnet this week which has made me question what I get from it.

I do think it mostly attracts intelligent women who are interested in a lot of the things I am interested in. But the level of self righteous contempt is quite shocking sometimes. The endless trans debate, masks, teachers - just a stream of people having their not always very pleasant pennysworth with no interest in other people's views and no respect for anyone else's feelings

There may have been some valid points in the Nigella and Caitlin threads yesterday but I have a lot of time for both of them and the contempt shown was just awful.

I'm getting to the point where I wonder what it says about me, or does to my mental health, being around such unpleasantness day in day out.

I clearly do get something from being on here, I waste enough time on it, but it doesn't seem a very positive place to me today.

ABCyouandme · 01/09/2020 07:04

I had wondered if the fact that no one has called out these comments as unacceptable meant that she is fair game.

Someone else said it. Not me.

"she comes across as quite pathetic"
"her clients look like dog shit"
"she needs to get a stylist"
"must be crying in her curry tonight"
"she screams of desperation"

Notredamn · 01/09/2020 07:06

Bishy this thread isn't your secret safe diary. Why not start your own on your thoughts of MN?

Notredamn · 01/09/2020 07:11

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Bishybarnybee · 01/09/2020 07:25

Another example of an intelligent put down that really doesn't add to the sum of human happiness but gives the writer that smug pleasure of scoring a point at someone else's expense.

I didn't want to start a TAAT and also if I want to use the thread to reflect on mumsnet more generally, I guess that's my choice.

Notredamn · 01/09/2020 07:30

But what you're complaining about is nothing to do with the thread so it wouldn't be a TAAT, Bishy. That's why I commented.

OrangeCinnamon1 · 01/09/2020 07:30

[quote Notredamn ]ABC I would never say any of those things but I don't expect everyone to gather round and try to police posters who do have those opinions, especially as Susie has now been exposed as a bully. What business owner threatens and intimidates their own customers? Stories of how she's alienated half her hometown and been horrible to people she's booked at events have come out as well so I'm not feeling too bothered about her own feelings being hurt as she doesn't like the taste of her own medicine. [/quote]
Agree..you are presuming we self police. I don't read every single post on Mumsnet threads to call out people.

Also ..extrapolating from over a hundred other posts?

The post mentioning the curry I thought was quite sympathetic...but im not going back to trawl through the thread so I can tell someone off.

It is very handy to use the excuse of online forums not being 'safe spaces' to enforce this new business model. Or is it just to ensure that no criticism can be given to the business?

If so that has really backfired because I am quite frankly shocked about some of the ways customers and group members have been treated (evidence has been posted o other groups). I would be none the wiser.

Bishybarnybee · 01/09/2020 07:35

[quote Notredamn ]But what you're complaining about is nothing to do with the thread so it wouldn't be a TAAT, Bishy. That's why I commented. [/quote]
Just re-read my post and I can actually see what you mean - I didn't make it clear I was responding to the list of quotes:

"she comes across as quite pathetic"
"her clients look like dog shit"
"she needs to get a stylist"
"must be crying in her curry tonight"
"she screams of desperation"

So I can see why you thought it was a random diary entry not part of the debate!

MrsSchadenfreude · 01/09/2020 07:46

@ABCyouandme those comments are appalling, but I don’t recall seeing them on here. But if you have a business, or are a public figure then you need to separate this from yourself. People will always criticise. I appear regularly as a senior representative of my organisation on our FB and YouTube pages. Someone will always comment on my appearance, usually my weight or what I am wearing, but also my eyes (I have limited vision in one eye and it doesn’t look “right”). You need to ignore these comments - as a woman I get probably more than 3 times the amount of negativity than my male colleagues. One gets comments on his accent but that’s about it. You need to ignore, get a thicker skin and move on.

PatchworkElmer · 01/09/2020 07:49

Looks like all the reviews from the last couple of days have disappeared from Trust Pilot? Might just be my browser playing up...

Atalune · 01/09/2020 07:53

Instagram is absolutely about putting yourself out there as the business/brand. She is the brand. I deplore the personal comments about her mental health, however she is offering a service entirely dependent on looking “good”. It is ALL appearance and visually based so how can people not so that looks bad or that haircut is awful. That is her business- how people look and if you’re offering them up on a plate there will be negativity on that.

Secondly people should be able to question and criticise a change in a service or business.

MaureenSowerbutts · 01/09/2020 07:54

She also writes for the Daily Mail and gets ripped to bits in the comments by the readers. Some of them say really horrid vile stuff, far worse that I have seen on here or Tattle. It doesn't put her off though she goes back and does it again and again.

I'm not saying she shouldn't, she can write for whatever publication she chooses but her #bekind mantra and explanations of damage to her mental health only seem to be at the forefront when customers complain.

ABCyouandme · 01/09/2020 07:56

@MrsSchadenfreude and if I saw or heard someone saying something like that about you I would call it out as appalling. I would not stand by and be ok with that.

Within the last 24 hours these comments have been made on this thread.

And so if I understand you correctly, the reason we are not calling this stuff out is because susie should grow a thicker skin. As oppose to mumsnet users debating in a respectful way?

And presumably the clients who use the service and apparently "look like dog shit" should also grow a thick skin too?

OrangeCinnamon1 · 01/09/2020 08:06

Do you know that there is a reporting system for posts on Mumsnet? There are also some handy rules. We are not here to police it .

Atalune · 01/09/2020 08:10

Trust pilot review are up there and the first page is all negative. They were made in the last 24 hours. I wonder if it’s t he same people reposting after a deletion.

That’s terrible if that’s what is happening ABCyouandme, can you confirm from Susie HQ?

MabelMoo23 · 01/09/2020 08:10

I recall the curry comment and I didn’t take it to be mean

I don’t recall the others.

I really really do worry for Susie’s mental health, I think she’s incredibly fragile and I also agree with previous posters that say she can’t separate the criticism of her business (of which every business have) and herself

Now there have been comments that people have private messaged her with horrible vile messages and if so, that’s really not on

ABCyouandme · 01/09/2020 08:11

@OrangeCinnamon1 I reported these comments yesterday.

Mumsnet admin didn't reply so I am presuming they are ok with users calling someone "pathetic and screaming of desperation etc".

I posted as I was wondering if the users are ok with these kind of comments too.

I think it's fairly obvious now that they are.

OrangeCinnamon1 · 01/09/2020 08:15

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. No evidence base for it though.

MrsSchadenfreude · 01/09/2020 08:16

@ABCyouandme no, we can call things out - as a PP has said, you can report posts on here. As a public persona, Susie does need to grow a thicker skin and to separate herself from her business. Clients are different, they are using the service, so not public people, although whatever you put out on the internet, people will comment on. Obviously, I would never say someone looked like dog shit, but I think constructive criticism is fine. I told someone on the SBS that her jeans gave her a camel toe, which was visible if she “did the tuck”. I thought that was quite a kind thing to do, but my comment got deleted.

Atalune · 01/09/2020 08:21

I used to follow her gram. I do not like her personal Style and I personally don’t think many of her looks favour her shape etc. But horses for courses and all that. However I was considering a style session early on and seeing her personal style and looks made me back away from that.

Also writing for the daily mail which IMHO completely undermines her “be kind” and anti cyber bulling stance as the Daily Mail is a hate filled pus sack of a tabloid, and being all infer with them screams HYPOCRITE!!

OrangeCinnamon1 · 01/09/2020 08:25

I'm really hoping she will reconsider that in future @atalune.

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