🐌 Fantastic Skincare: Vanities Are The New Shelf Porn

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For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

So You Want To Buy A Retinoid - A Guide

MAY 2020: We're in lockdown and it's doing weird things to our faces

I think this may be the slightly cheaper P50 alternative (it’s one I’d got bookmarked anyway) but it’s sold out at the moment.

Oops with link

deviantskincare.com/products/gentle-resurfacing-liquid

£151 I'd expect free shipping and someone to get their tits out in this S&M dungeon before even contemplating spending that on a tiny bottle of sunscreen.

Ah yes, Deviant, that's the one, I'd say it's not an exact dupe though as P50 is very PHA heavy and there's only very little in that one but that looks like a nice one for acne with pigmentation issues and potentially for darker skin tones as the concentration of glycolic doesn't look to be that high.

I've never really bought into Estée Lauder, I have a lipstick or two but nothing else has ever really appealed. It sounds a good deal though, even if the masterclass isn't any good.

The EL futurist is beautiful, that was my last foundation purchase

Meh, you can't get me exited about foundation. I'm vaguely intrigued by that new Becca Zero foundation but at best that's probably just a primer but I suspect it's full on emperor's new clothes.

@botemp I watched a review of it and yes, primer

@botemp @SallieSallow Thanks very much, i’ll take a look at the website and might treat myself to the W version.

My typos are catching Bo .

I must be one of the few who doesn't rate the P50. I prefer the Dr Dens.

Has anyone bought Alpha Skin Care Renewal Body Lotion recently and if so where from please?

But you only use the Dr Dennis pads very sparsely, don't you? Did you ever move past the p50w?

Is Amazon.com not shipping it to you, I can still order it from there.

I've not used the Dr Dennis pads for a couple of months because of the tret. I usually use them once or twice per week so they are pretty cost effective.

Yes but shipping is £22. I'll have a proper look on my.laptoon in a minute. Also prefer not to buy skincare on Amazon if possible.

Are you looking on the US Amazon or the UK one? It's €12 something shipping for me, €26 total shipped.

I thought it was US. I'll look in a minute. Thanks.

Yesterday's wash day was a small amount of Giovanni LIC, a small amount of clump cream, then Innersense I Create Volume. Did form a cast. Took ages to dry. Went to bed with it ever so slightly damp. Results didn't look v promising last night but actually it's okay. Not sure how long it will hold for.

I've been going back over some IGTV videows and improving my technique. Trying to pulse products up against the roots a bit more.

Pupsie you're thread hopping again

Oh FFS. I give up.

Cracking headache this morning from pineappling, I assume. I'll blame that.

Hope the headache goes away soon Pupsie

I’ve had a peek at the haircare thread and it’s bit of a foreign language to me but Pupsie your hair is gorgeous!

I’m wondering if it’s worth me trying to learn the lingo and having another bash but as I dye my hair fairly regularly I think that rules me out from doing CGM properly?

Awww thanks Sallie. Honestly, I felt like you do at first which is why I was in denial about the extent of my waves. But take it slowly and it's really not too daunting and I enjoy it so much more than the daily blow drying.

A good account to follow if you're on IG is this one:

www.instagram.com/welshiecurlgirl/

Look at her 3rd most recent post called "Simplifyng The Curly Girl Method".

Also I have my hair coloured every 5 to 6 weeks and have done for around 7 years. I have semi permanent to match my natural hair, usually just the roots/crown then pulled through maybe once or twice a year. It's a non-negotiable for me at this point. I am not grey enough to embrace it/go lighter. (I understand bleaching is more of an issue but still there are people who do that and maintain their curls).

I don't follow the rules 'properly' in that I don't cowash and I do still wash my hair every 2 to 3 days etc. As with lots of things, it's about adapting to suit. Come on over and tell us more/post a pic if you feel like it.

I got the pat McGrath dark matter eye set in the sale! Here's some swatches
The black isn't patchy, it's my stupid dry hand and it comes with an eye gloss too

They look like planets Queen.

@Pupsiecola they're beautiful going to try the bronze tomorrow

[quote QueenCT]@Pupsiecola they're beautiful going to try the bronze tomorrow[/quote]
I totally read that as going to The Bronze tomorrow🧛⚰️🦇. Is Buffy still on Netflix?

@botemp no but it is on all 4 and yes, I am watching it again

Hi I am still lurking on the thread and reading the comments. I Have been slowly building up to a new routine of cleanse, thermal water, moisturiser ( I love the lrp riche cream that @botemp recommended) and spf and my skin has already improved so thank you to anyone who gave me some advice . I want to add some actives In for my fine lines but want to keep it minimum due to my sensitive skin, I was thinking of vitamin c - although I think @Botemp mentioned that a derivative called Map may be better? - and some retinol to add these slowly over the rest of the year. Would anyone be able to offer advice about which to introduce first and any other product recommendations please?

Hiya @Littlemissindecisiveagain I generally recommend L-AA ascorbic acid when it comes to vitamin c but tend to recommend a derivative when someone's very sensitive. Were you the one that posted a picture and lived somewhere sunny who I suspected may have rosacea or am I mixing you up?

My favourite derivative for vitamin c and sensitive skin is Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate Medik8 does a really nice one but it's pricey. I think some of the cheaper brands like the ordinary, garden of wisdom, the Inkey list etc do versions too but I haven't used them and the issue I often find with the lower priced one is that they're quite crudely formulated which can be problematic for sensitive skin. However, since TA isn't an irritating active it'll probably be fine in a simpler formulation.

Retinol, again, really depends how sensitive you are but the most irritant free and effective retinoid I've used is the Medik8 r-retinoate but don't yell at me when you see the price. Probably best to try something like indeed labs retinol reface which is a good starter retinoid at a reasonable price and if that's too strong then consider something bankrupting like the Medik8.

In terms of order, since the vitamin c derivative is unlikely to cause major issues and won't require gradual introduction I'd start there first, use it for at least two weeks before considering introducing a Retinoid (start using that once or twice a week, assuming something like indeed labs).

Huge fan of Medik8 Tetra, and tbh would avoid The Ordinary C range as it can be quite hit and miss as far as quality.