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Royal style: Monochrome Megs is back in town!

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QueenOfTheAndals · 06/01/2020 20:12

new thread!

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AFifthOfKoolAid · 10/01/2020 12:47

They appear to be as good value for money as any other royal. Nothing they have done is ostensibly worse than what Andrew or Beatrice or William and Kate or the Queen does, but curiously they get way more shit and analysis for it. Wonder why.

astralweaks · 10/01/2020 12:56

People are very familiar with it - even if the do not admit to reading it. Very odd.

astralweaks · 10/01/2020 12:56

they

astralweaks · 10/01/2020 12:57

If Kate is stressed while driving, it’s obviously because of the hordes of cameras clicking in the direction of her car.

astralweaks · 10/01/2020 12:57

Maybe she was meant to look tearful?

DobbyTheHouseElk · 10/01/2020 13:12

I don’t think she’s stressed. It’s dark, raining and she has camera flashes blinding her. She’s got her babies in the car and wants to get home.

SenecaFalls · 10/01/2020 13:25

I think what mathanxiety is saying is that she wouldn't experience the same level of racism from the press. And nobody takes the tabloids seriously over there, unlike here where people just quote the Mail or Express like its fact.

Yes. Of course there is racism in the US, but we don't have mainstream media outlets exploiting racist, misogynistic, and xenophobic attitudes targeting one individual on an almost daily basis. Even Fox News is moderate by UK tabloid standards. And in fact, US media coverage of Meghan has often acknowledged racism in the UK and how it has been expressed against her.

One other thing: there are active conversations in academia and in many corporate environments on what Sooverthemill referred to as "intrinsic" racism. This requires a deep dive into the issues and an acknowledgment that internalized white supremacy and structural racism are pervasive in our society and that working to eradicate these is uncomfortable and takes a lot of work. People who have been involved in this kind of work often try to follow a basic principle of never being silent in the face of racism and calling it out when they see it. These types of discussions have definitely made their way into mainstream media in the US, which means that the general public is more aware as well. Meghan may be comparing that level of awareness with her own experience in the UK. And she may be wondering why no one in the RF other than her husband has spoken out.

PineapplePower · 10/01/2020 13:38

Also, they've said that they offset their carbon and I feel pretty confident that when they can do things t create a more green environment they do

You can’t offset carbon like that. Those schemes are mostly greenwashing.

That said, the tabloids in the UK can’t completely make things up right? Wouldn’t they get sued?

American tabloids have way more latitude to stretch the truth when it comes to “public” figures

Spudlet · 10/01/2020 13:45

Many years ago, I did a civil service course which included a session with Jonathan Powell (Tony Blair’s Chief of Staff). He was talking about the media, and said about the DM that all newspapers play on the fears of their readerships, whatever they may be. But the DM is the only one that creates those fears first, and then amplifies them. I’ve never forgotten that. 🤷‍♀️

I’d hate to be Kate, driving in the dark with my child in the back and then have cameras flashing away! Talk about stress (nice jacket though, from what little you can see of it).

Sooverthemill · 10/01/2020 13:47

@SenecaFalls I do think you are right about the level of 'calling out' on racism ( misogyny etc etc) that happens in the UK v USA. It's possible that Meghan has understood how different it is here compared to USA over the last year. When you fall in love you don't look for obstacles do you ( and I do think they did fall in love) but assume it will all be okay. The #metoo culture raised awareness of many things and has helped women to stand up to overtly sexist attitudes but there hasn't been a similar push against racism. I'm white, I don't experience racism, so I don't know much about it but I see it everywhere in what the DM writes ( I read it btw, my argument is you have to know what the enemy thinks in order to fight it) and it fills me with horror. I have black/ mixed race nephews and the treatment they talk about from white people is shocking. Much of it isn't overtly racist but just entrenched.

The RF is an old long-standing institution that has not yet modernised. Maybe this 'crisis' will be the catalyst. And then we can get back to frocks which are great fun

justasking111 · 10/01/2020 13:47

I saw a video of H and M leaving Canada house, the flashing of the cameras is astounding it would leave me blinded. I also remember Sky covering the princes when they came out of Kensington Palace to see the flowers laid after Diana`s death shown live, the pandemonium of the press shouts at those children was shocking, I felt for them that day. We only see the sanitised finished product usually.

hopeishere · 10/01/2020 14:15

In terms of PR (I work in PR too) this is all a disaster. They need to have one PR team not separate ones.

I don't blame Meghan for getting offside!

Nanasueathome · 10/01/2020 14:19

There’s a Daily Mail article...Meghan has already begun negotiations with Givenchy

SenecaFalls · 10/01/2020 14:34

Givenchy, you say? Well, if true, that would be a boon for these threads. Smile

streetatlas · 10/01/2020 14:35

kerching

queenofarles · 10/01/2020 14:39

Brand Ambassador? Guess they were not exaggerating the "we need more money" bit Confused

Yehdivvy · 10/01/2020 14:41

@queenofarles well you know what they say, strike while the iron is hot....

itswinetime · 10/01/2020 14:57

Meghan has been a bit hits and miss with givenchy it's not my favourite fit
/style on her. She's probably got other things on her mind at the moment but if your reading Meghan don't sign anything till you reach out to Stella McCartney they evening gown from the wedding is the best thing I have seen in terms of style and cut.

EmGee · 10/01/2020 15:02

In the light of recent developments, I finally got round to watching the Bradby documentary of H&M's African tour - I really enjoyed it. Funnily enough I prefer Meghan's outfits 'live' as opposed to on paper.

I don't blame them for wanting to move away from the UK and the confined atmosphere of the BRF.

StraightenUpAndFryRight · 10/01/2020 15:03

I know these threads are meant to be fashion, but it is nice to have a place to discuss this without it descending into vitriol. It’s just a bit more civilised on here.

I am very conflicted about the DM, it’s horrendously misogynistic but also covers stories affecting women that other media won’t.

justasking111 · 10/01/2020 15:16

Re: fashion it is nice to see a mature woman being courted to be a brand ambassador. Imagine if Diana had done this with her stylish looks back in the day.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 10/01/2020 15:23

The editor of the DM Geordie Greig (according to his Wiki page) comes from an aristocratic family who have been

QueenOfTheAndals · 10/01/2020 15:26

Lady Helen Taylor was a brand ambassador for Armani several years ago, wasn't she?

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queenofarles · 10/01/2020 15:28

Caroline of Monaco and her daughter too...

Rhubarbisevil · 10/01/2020 15:32

Yes, I think she was. She worked in fashion PR I think.

Well, this thread made me up my game so I bought some Sweaty Betty gym stuff over Christmas and thank goodness I did. I went to yoga today and met a former school mum (kids were friends before they changed schools) who is married into an overseas Royal Family. For the record, she was wearing loose navy yoga clothes, a 3/4 length black padded coat and black sneaker trainers.

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