Royal style: Monochrome Megs is back in town!

[QueenOfTheAndals]

new thread!

I think that’s an old photo.

God forfend. She is showing her toes and her knees.

@AspergersMum I was just about to delurk to mention the sandals and hat. She looks like she's going somewhere warmer than Canada.

Good grief, that last photo of Keanu

That is definitely an old photo. It was from pre wedding days.

The Queen could end this tomorrow remove the title and succession problem and let them get on with their lives with her blessing.

This is all kinds of bad signalling, however you look at it, even trying to be sympathetic. The press has been shockingly bad ever since the news of their relationship broke, but this does come over as a tantrum now. Surely the internal workings of thisbusiness mean you don't issue statements (and counter statements) like this week's without a major breakdown in communications.

Which of our posters is a PR specialist? There's been a lot of sensible discussion on here over the past couple of days - what will happen next, and how can the RF move with it without causing further damage to the Firm, and its individual members?

I think it's @BlingLoving who's in PR but I could be mistaken.

The issue I think is that H& M are seeing themselves as victims. IMO they aren’t. They are the aggressors as far as I can tell.

Interesting piece by Afua Hirsch in the New York Times but it's probably beyond the comprehension of Daily Mail types.

Great post Mathanxiety.

There’s been a lot of talk about BP and how badly Diana’s death was handled before, and remember the annus horribilis? BP and the Queen were heavily criticised. Now she’s so old she’s apparently untouchable and no one will say an word against her or her administration. The whole family is messed up with some seriously dodgy dynamics, so it’s just a miracle the youngsters seem as happy as they do, and it’s certainly not thanks to the British press or public... thing is royalty is irrelevant so in modern times reasonable expectations must be placed on them. Why are they expected to be masochistic stoic saints, rewarded with grudging respect from the DM and Piers Morgan after 20 years of abuse. They are just people, and a less emotive approach to them would be beneficial.

Loved the Marina Hyde and Hadley pieces! Hadley just went for it haha.

I don’t like those CPM shoes as much as Meghan’s burnt velvet shoes, if we’re talking velvet shoes. I don’t like the sparkly things so much.

I don't like them either Bani. What would you wear though with a red velvet gown? A black stiletto court shoe would be too heavy. Can't think

The Queen can't remove Harry from the succession. Only Parliament, or Harry himself, can do that.

@paradyning Kate's silver Jimmy Choo platform sandals? Maybe not? I can't think either.

Thanks for posting that Afua Hirsch article @QueenOfTheAndals: certainly food for thought.

But the conundrum would persist Seneca

Apologies for adding my thoughts to this thread - there are loads of other threads about H&M, but I reckon this one is probably the most sanest and knowledgeable.

Harry has been trying to strike out and make a life for himself, and probably would have done so if he'd been allowed to continue in the army. Meghan is different, and if the RF had taken that on board it could well have meant a move towards a more low-scale version of monarchy as happens elsewhere.

HM is elderly now, and I'm not sure she still has a firm grasp on how to deal with family matters. Even if she is still mentally alert, she's always done things the way they've always been done. Many aspects of the RF still harken back to Victoria's time.

This is a disastrous situation for the RF, but in my opinion it's of their own making. As Jephson's book points out, there isn't (and hasn't been for a long time) any kind of cohesion between the various royal offices. Communication has been the weakest point and it's really showing now.

I don't blame Meghan for going back to Canada, if that's true. She has been horribly vilified in the gutter press.

Just about the only thing the RF has going for them is the British love of nostalgia. And Kate, who has played her part almost to perfection.

She has been horribly vilified in the gutter press

Without mentioning Piers Morgan, can you give examples?

Have a look at the Afua Hirsch article I posted @DuchessofWoke. Though I suspect the examples in there may not satisfy.

In one of the mail articles about security for H&M there's a photo of her in the pink Pom Pom dress from their tour down under....I'd forgotten how much I liked it (think I was the only one) it's bonkers, but I think it's fab.

So apparently the reason the statement was released out of the blue and faster than Buckingham palace would have liked was because the sun had gotten hold of the story and were going to lead with it so the Sussex's took the decision to release the information themselves instead of let it come out from the press.

Apparently talks had been on going with the Queen and Charles but this leak speed things up.

If that's true it makes sense and it's slightly less damaging for the royal family I think but who knows the truth of it these days.

I'm going to go back and read those articles now.

And then you also have to consider the public commentary that some of those negative articles generate.

My last post was in response to Queen's post about the Hirsch article.

I feel sorry for William, it isn't easy to 'lose' his brother, having been close. The queen and Margaret had differences, but also their shared childhood. Going NC or LC is tough.

Seneca I agree, it's not only/just the articles that are the issue but the comments they generate.

Everyone always said that Harry lost his mother at a young age. William did too. It must be hard to go through that together & then become NC.