Styled by Susie - anyone done it?

[Alanis41]

Hi all, I've been following the tribe group on Facebook for a while but just wondering if anyone here has tried it. I can't seem to get to the bottom of what they advise, seasons etc. Is there something similar closer to London. And she keeps advising chunky trainers, is this a thing now?

@MrsSchadenfreude

A lot of it is a bit “same old, same old”, like put a denim or biker jacket over a dress and wear chunky trainers. A couple of the stylists look good, but one looks like an overgrown toddler on speed - the one who was wearing what looked like a neon pink baby doll nylon nightie and clutching a balloon the other day. A blind woman pulling clothes out of a wardrobe in the dark would have better success at putting together an outfit that looked good.

This is exactly the kind of comment that makes this thread seem personal, unkind and bitchy.

There are ways to critique a business model without personal attacks.

I had an analysis done just before Christmas and have really benefited from it. I knew I was a pear (from Trinny and Suzanne), but felt I was stuck in a rut. It’s made me look at clothes afresh, and given me new styles to try.

Also had my colours done. Again, it’s made me experiment with new colours, and reject co.ours that don’t suit me.

I’m on the Facebook page and have found it helpful and encouraging.

Commenting on a stylists outfit that she has put on a Instagram account that promotes her styling services is not a personal attack.

Comments like that are actually helpful to those who were thinking about paying for the service, myself included. If we can stop just one person getting ripped off it will be worth it.

And giving people a false sense of confidence is helpful to nobody. If I had paid for this and started dressing like an overgrown toddler and telling everyone how happy I am with my new found style, my friends and family probably would not tell me for fear of hurting my feelings, but they would all be hoping that I would see sense eventually. In the meantime I would be making a fool out of myself.

Forgot to add, I’m plus size.

I’ve used a number of the services over the last few years. I certainly didn’t cry when I received my analysis and it didn’t tell me anything I didn’t really know. The make up one was a little over the top in its positivity - I don’t look like a model in any way.

However, it is fairly cheap. It isn’t pretentious or posh. It fits different budgets. It serves a purpose for those of us that can not afford a John Lewis personal stylist or even a colour house analysis. It supports high street shops which is where I shop. I am not an ethical shopper and I don’t pretend to be one either and not does Suzy. If she helps one woman out of a hundred to feel more confident about their shape, looks etc then I think she is doing a great job. So what if some of the stylists are not as classy as some of you would like. Or are different shapes and colours to what you think. It’s all subjective anyway. I shouldn’t wear red but I love red. I shouldn’t wear DMs but I love them. And Suzy gives us women that confidence. I like the positivity on FB. If I don’t think something suits someone I will say so in the comments but I will word it carefully and constructively. It is too easy to be keyboard warriors anyway.

I agree that there is no way to complain about a service.

Coffeeandbeans genuinely interested, why shouldn’t you wear red?

@Oopsadaisydoddle it wasnt to anyone in particular. I just noticed that there was a few comments that were getting close to being a bit mean and personal.

I do understand other people's frustration. As I said i had an analysis, was i disappointed? Yes. Would i recommend it to a friend or family? Probably not but i can imagine for some women who are in a complete rut its probably a bit helpful. I completely agree that any business should deal with criticism and poor reviews in a professional way. From some posters that hasnt happened and im disappointed to hear that. However if anyone from the sbs team were to look at some of the posts or tattle thread (not seen it but have heard thats quite ruthless) then they would probably defend their "no criticism" policy. People have individual style. I see some things that other Instagram influencers wear and think, thats an awful outfit but other people seem to love it. Anyway, this post isnt to upset anyone. Just wanted to explain myself.

Every season can wear red! Summers and winters need a cool, blue based red (clear and bright for winter, muted for summer) whereas springs and autumns need a warm red. If you've been told not to wear red at all then you've been given wrong information.

@weareyoung but the Holy Grail does seem to be, put a denim jacket/biker jacket over that, hun and pair it with some chunky trainers and you’ll look fab. You won’t. You’ll look like everyone else that is following the advice like a sheep.

One of the stylists today has put on a dress that she describes as “plain”. It is, but all of her solutions to jazzing it up involve a jacket (two of them being denim and one biker). Why not different scarves or necklaces?

If I decided to head off down the street in a neon pink nylon nightdress, I hope that one of my nearest and dearest would rugby tackle me in the hall and not let me leave the house.

I agree that it is good that it boosts confidence, and also that it uses the high street. But I don’t think the overwhelming comments of “you look lovely hun” do anyone any favours, particularly when a dress doesn’t fit - if it is too tight or engulfs someone. A bit of constructive criticism is helpful - “would look great if you sized down/up” or “cut six inches off the bottom, it would look better knee length.”

On the Facebook page, there is constructive criticism. I posted a picture of me wearing a jacket, and everyone said it was two big. Sometimes people get advised to wear different necklines,
Etc.

Also, the analysis considers your personality, so someone a bit edgy will be suggested a different style to a Parisian person. Yes, the basic shape of clothes will stay the same for that person, so all pears will be advised to have more patterned or distinctive tops, but an edgier person will be given a different T-shirt to a more traditional dresser. Ie. Goth T-shirt v Breton.

I don’t think there is constructive criticism @Standrewsschool I think that anyone who hasn’t drunk the positivity juice gets slapped down / comments removed so hardly anyone posts genuine comments, it’s all quite fawning.

I didn’t like the Tattle thread, but compared to some of the other tattle threads, it’s not as bad. Tattle is possibly the extreme opposite of SBS, and toxicity for toxicity sake isn’t nice.

I also don’t like the ‘Susies smile is demonic” Changing a T-shirt colour that doesn’t suit you is easy, physical characteristics aren’t and should be off limits.

It doesn’t change that SBS is MLM type low quality service that cancels out feedback, and like another poster, I wouldn’t pay 99p for it knowing what I know now.

I’ve had constructive criticism removed from the FB group, as have others I know. The mad thing was that there were a lot of responses to my comment (agreeing with me) which stood and made no sense once mine had gone.

I don't see any constructive criticism either! It's the worst example of a echo chamber I've seen.

@MrsSchadenfreude that comment about the neon pink nightdress made me laugh out loud! The stylist with the orange was once again wearing the wrong colour for her.

And as for the style personalities, thats just a load meaningless tripe. If a true parisian was too see that they would be very insulted!

ohmygiddiest I like you

There's a girl on there who was analysed recently and now posts almost daily. She was told she was a winter but it's SO obvious she's a spring. I almost want to message her and tell her to try warmer colours (obviously I wouldn't as she might be upset, but she would look so lovely in them!)

@WowStarsWow but why do you think you can analyse colour better than Suzie? It’s not a science and is subjective but I just wonder why you think you know better?

@WowStarsWow

ohmygiddiest I like you

There's a girl on there who was analysed recently and now posts almost daily. She was told she was a winter but it's SO obvious she's a spring. I almost want to message her and tell her to try warmer colours (obviously I wouldn't as she might be upset, but she would look so lovely in them!)

Curly hair? Yep she’s a spring. I have no idea how they’ve pulled winter out of their arse for her.

@Coffeeandbeans I’d say seasonal colour analysis is very much objective.

It can be difficult to see for some people and there are people on the cusp of seasons, say a dark autumn will edge into a winter, but ultimately it’s to do with the colours in your skin and eyes which are a fact, so the subjectivity is low.

I’m fairly sure I know of the poster being referred to and she is beyond doubt a spring of some sort. Just imagining her in a warm turquoise blue or a coral pink and you can see how it would work with her skin and eyes. In the winter colours like cobalt blue she doesn’t look “right”.

I think re: colour analysis it’s often easier to see which season a person is not rather than the season that they are in some people. The woman they’re talking about is so clearly not winter colouring. In fact I think winter is the season that they most often wrongly tell people they are - they seem to be working on the presumption that winters often have very clear blue eyes. But so do lots of springs and some summers have clearer blue eyes than you’d expect too.

[quote Coffeeandbeans]@WowStarsWow but why do you think you can analyse colour better than Suzie? It’s not a science and is subjective but I just wonder why you think you know better?[/quote]
Hmm I read this and started feeling a bit defensive, but actually you know what, I do think a lot of people can analyse colour better than susie. It shouldn't be subjective, but I believe that when you are telling people their best colours from a photo, which may be badly lit, then it is very very hard to get right. Plus Susie and some of the other stylists frequently wear colours not from their season without mentioning how they've made it work for them, which leads to confusion amongst the group. Lots of people seem to have a simplistic view of the seasons' colours, such as "bright = spring" and "ice cream tones = winter". I've seen stylists insist that certain colours belong to certain seasons when they blatantly don't. So yes I do think it's not hard to be better at understanding colour analysis than Susie & co.

The reason I think I can analyse the girl I mentioned in the group is because as the seasons are a spectrum, there will always be people who sit bang in the middle and are very obvious even from a photo. (She has actually posted lots of photos now, which is why it's even more obvious to me.)

I have in no way claimed that I could analyse everyone's colour - though give me somebody in person, a room with lots of natural light, and some decent fabric drapes and I would give it a good go.

@Oopsadaisydoddle I am an autumn and I’m similar in colouring to you except I have green eyes. I will never tan!

Because I’m dark (ish) haired and pale I have quite high contrast and so I suit the more intense autumn colours. Not the wish washy ones. I look good in rust, mustard, the blues and olive etc etc.

Oopsadaisydoddle it's ONLY about skin colour. Eye colour can give an indication but definitely wouldn't be more important than skin. Hair is not important at all. If they're working off eyes and hair then they are 100% doing it wrong.

It isn't about "matching" the colours in any way. It's about finding the colours that tone with your colours. This is why you can't do it from a photo.

What did they actually tell you about how they analysed you and what it means? I'm so intrigued.