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Royal style & gossip: now where's that baby??

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QueenOfTheAndals · 29/04/2019 12:39

Sorry, I dropped the ball again!

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/05/2019 08:16

Private or NHS; you are splitting hairs, if Meghan is induced, she has to be in a hospital in case there are complications.
Frimley Park is NHS and has a birthing pool.
Hopefully her labour can have a bit of help to get started and she can still have a water birth.

motheroftinydragons · 05/05/2019 08:19

The Queen had her CS at Buckingham Palace didn't she, where there are rooms that can be set up as a operating theatre? I know Frogmore isn't your average home but I don't know if it's got those kind of facilities.

I imagine the safety rules the NHS adhere to will still apply in private medicine. They aren't there for fun, and no ones going to take risks with the DoS or baby's health. As an 'older' (urgh I hate that, but medically) 2 week overdue first time mum - assuming she has no complications - she's going to be looking at an induction or ELCS now. It's just a case of where and when.

SweetestSugar · 05/05/2019 08:22

There is nothing to suggest she is two weeks overdue though! Smile

motheroftinydragons · 05/05/2019 08:23

True. Pure speculation, as always!

She could have been due early May and not be overdue until mid-month! Who knows Grin

Bet we have a new thread by the time baby comes.....

SweetestSugar · 05/05/2019 08:26

Haha yes, it was more in reply to the post that asserted “So Meghan will have to go to Frimley Park today for an induction” - I thought something had been announced! Grin

StarShapedWindow · 05/05/2019 08:40

I had a private midwife and I was two weeks overdue with my first, my midwife told me I could have a scan everyday to see if the baby was okay and if I needed to have an induction we could base it on each days scan results. Luckily he was born 14 days late so we didn’t need to go down that road, he was born at home in birthing pool.

NaturalBornWoman · 05/05/2019 08:47

Private or NHS; you are splitting hairs, if Meghan is induced, she has to be in a hospital in case there are complications.

The Queen had a CS at home, granted home was Buck house not Frogmore. I'm simply pointing out that the usual rules don't apply. Anyway no one knows her EDD, or how overdue she is. She can definitely be monitored at home to whatever extent is deemed necessary, and won't therefore be under the same pressure to consent to induction on a certain day that the rest of us would be.

Thesearmsofmine · 05/05/2019 08:54

My sil went 19 days over with her youngest, she didn’t want induction and was monitored each day instead.

queenofarles · 05/05/2019 09:07

I admit I never reached the overdue stage in my pregnancies, My placenta starts not feeding proberly around 38 weeks, so I usually have mine at 39 weeks.
I can’t even begin to imagine how it feels like at 41+ week,
But if baby is big and no sign of it coming out and C -section is the last resort , I see no point of delaying it further. Maybe it’s here already?

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/05/2019 09:11

Comparing the Queen at least 50 years ago, when home births were the norm for the RF is outdated.
I'm sure Meghan is being monitored daily, but when is the cut off? Desires of the mother vs best interests of the baby...

Spudlet · 05/05/2019 09:19

I doubt very much that anyone will be inducing her this weekend, unless there's a medical reason to do so, no matter how overdue she is or isn't. Same goes for anyone else. Although she'll be no doubt getting private care, there is no private healthcare provider that has the resources of the NHS (ICU / NICU for example), and as a result if you are having private care and it all goes wrong, they will send you to the NHS. The Portland say so, I believe, and I see no reason to believe any other private provider would be different. And the NHS won't be dealing with routine operations etc over the Bank Holiday. If they are monitoring and the baby seems distressed, that's another matter, but it won't be a case of 'you're X days over now, induction time' (and she may not want an induction anyway, although I was dead against them until I went to 12 days over, by which point a DIY c-section with the vegetable knife was starting to cross my mind...).

I just hope she's comfortable and all is well. Babies come when they're good and ready, ime.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 05/05/2019 09:33

Yes I've heard that about the Portland. Which is why I think Kate was very sensible to choose the Lindo as it's attached to an NHS hospital. Weren't some royals born at the Portland though? Maybe the York sisters?

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Haggismcbaggis · 05/05/2019 10:07

Yes both York girls born at the Portland. It is right around the corner from UCL though in case of emergency.

All private birthing units do flag that you and baby might need to transfers to a fully equipped NHS hospital at any time.

I had 2 of my 3 at St John and Elizabeths - now closed & they made that v clear

Haggismcbaggis · 05/05/2019 10:08

I think we'll hear new today.

Haggismcbaggis · 05/05/2019 10:08

Or news even Hmm

NaturalBornWoman · 05/05/2019 10:15

I'm sure Meghan is being monitored daily, but when is the cut off? Desires of the mother vs best interests of the baby...

Well I think the cut off would be the point where monitoring indicates that induction would be in the baby's best interests rather than at an arbitrary number of days past the estimated delivery date.

Paradyning · 05/05/2019 10:35

I really dont think she's 2 weeks over

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/05/2019 10:46

Well based on that old chestnut of announcing just after Eugenie's wedding, so about the 15 October she should have been due around mid April. So either she announced waaay early or is at least 2 weeks over.
She didn't have Kate's excuse HG and needing to announce early. She was showing in Fiji. There's a whole load of high profile visits next week, I presume a week's delay was factored in before planning those, including Harry's

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QueenOfTheAndals · 05/05/2019 10:51

The only reason I can think of for announcing early is because of their tour down under. Maybe they didn't want to announce it mid-trip or were worried in case something happened while they were away.

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 05/05/2019 10:58

Well if they announced early, Eugenie would have every reason to be miffed at Meghan, with her half buttoned coat starting speculation at her wedding.
Anyway, based on Everything Meghan herself has said, the baby was due end of April early may, she is overdue. If it's only a week, then she's had approaching a couple of months maternity leave, which seems unlikely given her work ethic.

Elllllle · 05/05/2019 11:24

If you're thinking the NHS rules apply to this birth, I think you are seriously deluded. If she has a home birth, it would be fully equipped with every sort of equipment and paed/ob doctor necessary for any sort of emergency.

FFSeverynameisused · 05/05/2019 11:25

I suspect the next thread title will be "whyyyyy are we waaaaaaiting?"

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AFifthOfKoolAid · 05/05/2019 12:10

It's still early May...

SwimmingintheDeepBLUESea · 05/05/2019 12:25

I really hate this attitude that a woman is only allowed to go 14days over due. A woman can go as over due as she bloody well wants!

When I was 1 week overdue the NHS tried to force an induction on me (for 10days over due date) - I asked them to give me one reason why an induction was beneficial to me or baby considering it was likely to cause complications. They couldn't, as all going over 14days overdue means is that you need daily monitoring to check all is well - it's considered by the NHS to be more cost effective to induce than monitor.

Megan is a private patient, so cost effective rules won't apply. She will only be induced if and when she wants to be. Being a private patient I image she wouldn't even need to leave home for the monitoring - they'd take the equipment (and staff) to her.

We also have no way of realistically knowing a precise enough due date to know how over due she was. Some people's bodies show shockingly early, some not at all until much further along.

And if dates being this late did mean she started may leave very early - then maybe there were complications, so she went off early.

itswinetime · 05/05/2019 13:28

Everyone was speculating from the wedding she was pregnant maybe they didn't want the whole tour to be bump watch so maybe they did announce early. Maybe Eugenie is miffed about that maybe she doesn't give a crap we have no way of knowing she has given no signs she is holding a grudge though.

The palace said spring. Meghan said end of April begging of May its only the fifth of May we are still in that time frame.

As for mat leave we have no idea when she started we know when she was last seen in public but at the time the palace said she would continue taking private meetings so who knows when she officially started? We also have no idea if she had high bp of any number of other issues that meant she was advised to take it easy.

As for being induced that's for Meghan and her doctors to decide but if mum and baby are well I don't see them rushing.

The palace have said the press will be told when Meghan goes into labour. The birth will be announced when it happens but that pictures will come when Meghan and Harry are ready. That is all we know for sure.

And to me the 5th of May is still early May so who knows what Meghan meant. I'm guessing she is advised to be vague when people question 🤷🏻‍♀️

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