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Royal style & gossip: give us this day our daily tiara...

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QueenOfTheAndals · 29/11/2018 08:22

Link to previous thread.

As always, let's try to keep it light and avoid all spite...

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owlshooting · 02/12/2018 16:56

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/buckingham-palace-queen-tupperware-philip-13663437

I came across this - interesting.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 17:06

You'd think an undercover reporter could've managed a juicer scoop than that!

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owlshooting · 02/12/2018 17:28

Ha ha!

itswinetime · 02/12/2018 17:46

Well if a reporter can do it I vote we spread out ladies there are jobs going in almost all royal households at the moment so we can get the information and more importantly gown/jewl info first hand!

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 02/12/2018 18:45

@owlshooting
That is quite shocking. You’d think they’d learnt after Michael fagan

owlshooting · 02/12/2018 19:58

It was a while ago, so maybe before Michael Fagan? I haven't checked the dates, but yes, really shocking. I find the photo of the breakfast table quite interesting. It all looks a bit shambolic.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 20:02

No, Michael F was 80s. This one is from just a few years ago.

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owlshooting · 02/12/2018 20:05

It does mention that Bush was staying though? That was quite some time ago.

queenofarles · 02/12/2018 20:08

its from 2003 😂

Sad looking table.

TyraAllen · 02/12/2018 20:09

It was 2003

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 20:18

Ah ok, I thought it said 2013 rather than 2003. Still a long time after Michael Fagan though!

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WindyWednesday · 02/12/2018 20:53

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Want2bSupermum · 02/12/2018 21:10

Bean Sir Fellowes is definitely your typical man in grey suits person. Very well connected through marriage, with an upper middle class upbringing. You also find a lot of cash poor, asset rich families working in these roles. Generally speaking though the men in grey suits are far more snooty and stuck up than anyone else you meet.

owlshooting · 02/12/2018 21:33

I never understood why Diana's sisters didn't do more to support her, and why jane and her husband in particular didn't feature more in her life. I think Jane lived in KP didn't she? They were neighbours, yet Diana was so isolated.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 21:45

I'm not sure the Spencers did support. Didn't Frances' own mother testify against her in the divorce case!

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GrumbleBumble · 02/12/2018 21:47

I think the Spencer's were dysfunctional long before Diana married Charles.

Laiste · 02/12/2018 22:03

D's sister introduced PC and D didn't she? After dating PC herself?

ElspethFlashman · 02/12/2018 22:23

Wasn't it one of her sisters who basically said "You just have to suck it up, Duch" or similar when she was having doubts during the engagement that she and Charles didn't know each other that well?

Mind you, you could say the sisters, who knew Charles well, saw no reason it wouldn't be fine. And since she was troubled even before the marriage they may have just seen it as another of Diana's moods.

I don't know where I read this story, but I read recently of a very awkward scene between C & D. It was a Royal Performance or Gala or something and the whole lot of them were going. Except you can't arrive before the Queen. There was a strict car schedule so everyone arrives in order. And Diana was ready for ages and wanted to just GO. And Charles said "You know we can't arrive before the Queen, I'm having a drink, do you fancy one?" But D just got more and more wound up, going ou to the stairs and making to go, and kept saying "we could just go now" and then when that didn't work "we'll go separately, nobody would notice" (absurd) and was standing at the top of the stairs getting increasingly frustrated and wound up and more pissed off whilst Charles became vaguer and milder and just kept wandering back to the drawing room. The footman (or chauffeur I can't remember) in attendance was mortified. She was raging for a big row, but he just wanted to minimise it and hope if he didn't react it would go away.

It must be stifling to be so controlled, that you have to hang around for ages in your glad rags waiting for the nod to go. And so boring and frustrating, when you're very young. I imagine that is all still the exact same.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 22:25

Yes it was Lady Sarah McCorquodale @Laiste, nicknamed McCrocodile and apparently for good reason!

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chumsnet · 02/12/2018 22:28

The Spencers have been courtiers for generations and Jane presumably knew which side her bread was buttered. Robert Fellowes became first Sir Robert (not “Sir Fellowes”) and is now a member of the House of Lords. Her father was an equerry to HM before his own father died and allowed him to take over his estates at Althrop.

The Queen’s current equerry is black, incidentally, although still an Army man and still of aristocratic descent.

DontCallMeCharlotte · 02/12/2018 22:33

Oh God, bring on the Nobels!

TinselBeakerSoChristmas · 02/12/2018 22:39

Queen yes that's right Lady Fermoy did testify against Frances when she divorced Diana's father.
Earl Spencer thefore got custody of the children. I thought that was rather cruel as until that point Diana (not sure about the other children) was living with her mother.
I think Frances was punished for the temerity of deciding to stay with the man she ran off with.
I heard that Diana's parents would fight a lot & Frances would be slapped/hit.
Frances was also under great pressure to produce a baby boy to inherit the earldom.
It's no wonder Diana had issues with what she went through as a child.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 22:49

I think Frances had a stillborn boy or a boy who only lived for a few hours after Jane and Sarah, so poor Diana was a disappointment from day 1.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 22:51

I didn't realise Frances was never Countess Spencer, as she was divorced before Johnny inherited.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 02/12/2018 22:57

I also didn't realise Diana has an aunt who's still alive at nearly 100!

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