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Kate's dress - Stockholm visit

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eloisesparkle · 30/01/2018 21:05

Your thought please.
I think she normally dresses very well but this looks like her suitcase was lost in transit and somebody in the Palace in Stockholm very kindly offered to run her up a dress from curtains ( a la The Sound of Music ) that they were donating to a charity shop.

Kate's dress - Stockholm visit
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Anatidae · 02/02/2018 19:07

I suspect it’s a fabric type that doesn’t photograph well. In person it will be very lux and have a lot of movement and shine but in photos it looks static. So maybe not a great choice for indoor photography in a poorly lit historical palace. She still looks four thousand times better than I did at six months pregnant.

She looked amazing on the Stockholm walkabout and her and William were exceedingly lovely to my friends little girl, who had waited in the cold to see them.

The visit has gone down very well here - they’re excellent ‘soft power’ ambassadors for the uk. They’re pleasant, photogenic and good with kids - they’re good for Brand UK (especially with all the ill will generated. Y brexit recently.)

I will be getting her fur hat as soon as I find an excuse to treat myself

Anatidae · 02/02/2018 19:12

I also think she’s interested in fashion but let’s not forget she is constrained a LOT by:

Needing to look ‘respectable’
Needing to showcase British designers while having a nod to he host country
Needing to cause no offence

Also it’s pretty chilly here just now ;)

She is a royal in the old school mould in that way. She knows when to keep quiet and I can’t imagine her embroiled in any kind of scandal. That is her job - to look good but not too outre. To be pleasant and not to cause offence. She understands that well I think.

Harry and Meghan have a little more leeway on what they can do and get away with.

It is in effect a gilded cage. It’s not a life I would want, for all it’s priviled

SamanthaBrique · 02/02/2018 19:23

You can look respectable and stylish though. I don't think anyone is constrained by a "modest" dress code more than Queen Rania of Jordan but she always looks incredibly chic. And she's about 10 years older than Kate too!

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/02/2018 19:23

I liked the stuff Kate wore when they were in India. The relaxed boho vibe really suited her.

EmpireVille · 02/02/2018 19:44

Anatidae I know but I just don't think those things are hard to achieve.

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 02/02/2018 19:48

Loved What Meghan was wearing last night she looked so effortlessly stylish.

WipsGlitter · 02/02/2018 20:00

I've googled Leitzia and Queen R and they do both look good. They wear a lot of separates which look good and a bit more modern.

WipsGlitter · 02/02/2018 20:05

Kate looks lovey today in the outdoor gear. So happy.

QueenOfTheAndals · 02/02/2018 20:30

She always looks really good in sporty gear, maybe it's what she feels most comfortable in.

DontCallMeCharlotte · 03/02/2018 19:31

The blue sofa dress is a bit Marmite but I think it's lovely. Funny, I've been craving an up do from Kate but I was just thinking casual ponytail rather than full-on Princess Ann (as per a pp).

Also I'm accustomed to her eye make up now but that blusher??

Anyway now her luggage has turned up she can return that mustard horror to CP Mette Marit next door.

PS if it's edgy royal fashion you're after, Queen Maxima's the girl for you.

DontCallMeCharlotte · 03/02/2018 19:31

And I'm sure she speaks very highly of me!

eloisesparkle · 03/02/2018 20:06

Queen Maxima always looks like she's having a ball.
She has a fabulous wide smile.

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octonaught · 03/02/2018 21:32

I would say Crown Princess Mary of Denmark is the most fashionable.
However Queen Maxima does Fabulous with her South American exuberance
Red Pantsuit anyone?
Lilac cape for a wedding
.... and the hats!

QueenOfTheAndals · 03/02/2018 21:38

Maxima is just fabulous and seems like she'd be a hoot on a night out too. I don't think her style would suit everyone though.

MrsGrindah · 04/02/2018 17:55

Hi everyone.....we’re being quoted in the Sunday Times today...some journalist being a tad lazy and turning our comments into a style column...

QueenOfTheAndals · 04/02/2018 18:08

Oh really? Link or photo of the text?

deaddeadgood · 04/02/2018 18:10

Hardly a 'bickerfest ' I enjoyed his thread!

millymae · 04/02/2018 18:23

Quite the worst dress I’ve seen her in, and the blue one she wore the next day (I think) wasn’t much better.
She normally looks lovely, but neither of these dresses did her any favours.

RosinaAlmaviva · 04/02/2018 18:57

The makeup thread was a bit of a bickerfest, so I stayed away, but not this thread.

That article badly needed some research. Kate doesn't repeat "Have you come far?" like a robot, she's known for the time she takes to chat to people on walkabouts. I saw some video of one of the tour walkabouts, posted by Victoria Murphy, and Kate was charming, natural, unaffected, and totally focused on the person she was talking to despite being surrounded by a forest of camera phones.

Anatidae I'm glad to know the tour went down well in Sweden. That's what is really important, not what our press think of it, but the opinion of the host country.

eloisesparkle · 04/02/2018 20:11

What section of The Sunday Times ?

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octonaught · 04/02/2018 20:21

Here's the article. It's behind a paywall so have copied and pasted
and you think Mumsnet is bitchy... saucer of milk for the journalist

^It’s not much fun being seven months pregnant in the dead of winter, not least when you already have a four-year-old and a two-year-old. All you want to do is curl up in front of the telly in a tracksuit. Instead, if you’re the Duchess of Cambridge, you have to fly to freezing Stockholm, then Oslo, to endure endless versions of Ikea canteen meatballs on the best Oftast crockery while making polite conversation with your husband’s Scandinavian 45th cousins twice removed.

While Prince William only had to don a bow tie and make jokes about Abba, the poor duchess had to put up with her outfits for this tour of duty of Sweden and Norway being judged by the world.

First up was the ruffled floral mustard gown, like a full-length Cadbury’s Roses wrapper, worn for dinner with the Swedish prime minister.

The diplomatic verdict was “eye-catching”; keyboard warriors wondered if the duchess’s suitcase had been mislaid and someone in the embassy had kindly offered to run her up an emergency frock from old curtains, à la Maria in The Sound of Music.

Initially, I wondered if Kate, 36, had decided patriotically to model what looked like a cert from Marks & Spencer’s Per Una range — whose every garment must by law combine frills, busy prints, garish colours and bizarre cuts — only to discover the dress was by royal favourite Erdem Moralioglu and cost £1,945.

It’s possible the Canadian-born, Britain-based Erdem was offering bulk-buy discounts, because the following evening she was displaying his wares again — this time a long devoré blue frill-hemmed dress that unkind wags suggested had been salvaged from the DFS sofa sale before having a £2,690 price tag put on it.

The duchess’s daywear was only marginally less attention-grabbing. She met schoolchildren in a red and white houndstooth Catherine Walker coat that not only drew unkind comparisons to a picnic blanket but also provoked accusations of Kate trying to steal the style of her husband’s late mother, who, royal-watchers proclaimed, had worn a similar-style Moschino jacket to Princess Eugenie’s christening in 1990. What were the odds?

Perhaps cowed, the duchess hastily retreated to her habitual inoffensive monochrome frocks and coats for daytime. She was back in a voluminous pink Alexander McQueen gown for dinner with Norway’s royals, however, this time channelling not so much Princess Diana as Princess Elsa from Frozen, as dragged from the bottom of the Disney Store bargain bin. It seemed pregnancy hormones had duped her, like many of us, me included, into swallowing the dictum of the high priestess of eccentric librarian chic, Miuccia Prada: “Ugly is attractive; ugly is exciting.”

More probably she’d been egged on by her long-term stylist, Natasha Archer, who, according to Vanity Fair, “has persuaded Kate to take risks”, convincing her that beneath her home counties exterior was concealed the avant-garde spirit of a 19-year-old Latvian design student.

Archer has been with the duchess throughout her Scandi tour, as has her hairdresser, Amanda Cook Tucker, who created a stir by posting her less-private-than-she-believed Instagram shot (rapidly deleted) of the equipment she was packing for the five-day trip: 13 brushes, six combs, three sets of hair tongs, two hairdryers and seven hair products — none, obviously, intended for William.

That provoked a predictable brouhaha about the profligacy of employing someone to coiff endless updos with their style nods to Princess Anne in 1978. This was rivalled only by equally vociferous complaining on bickerfests such as Mumsnet that “Kate Middleton needs to hire a make-up artist”. “Her heavy eyeliner hides her eyes and the blusher is terrible,” one outraged poster complained. “It’s a diaganol [sic] across her face.”

Poor Kate. As with any woman in the public eye, she will never win. Spendthrift or tightwad, glossy or grunge, both she and Wills, with his dad jeans and passion for Radio 1, will eternally be blasted for frumpiness.

Still, I suspect, neither could give a fig, having long conceived a master plan for Kate to be embraced by “the Firm” by moulding herself into the anti-Diana Duchess of Bland, patron saint of nude tights, matching LK Bennett court shoes and robotic repetitions of “Have you come far?”.

It may even be that this new, upholstered edginess represents a defiant gearchange. After all, with her future sister-in-law, Meghan Markle, entering the spotlight, replete with an American passport, indiscreet relatives, an ex-husband and waffle about feminism, the heat is off. Kate’s no longer the newbie. She’s produced an heir and (nearly) two spares. She’ll be queen one day and if she wants to wear a sofa to dine with the House of Oldenburg, no one can damn well stop her.^

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 04/02/2018 20:25

That's bit rich of her, calling MN an "bitchfest", she's hardly complimentary herself.

Anatidae · 04/02/2018 20:40

The one decent point in that article is that she’s consciously going for a non confrontational look. I believe that, and I understand it. She’s seen the savaging female royals get for any behaviour even slightly out of the expected. She’s seen what happpens - and she’s smart enough to deflect it via her behaviour and dress. Yes it may disappoint those who want a bit more drama and edginess but to me it speaks of someone who has a long term view and an astute sense of how to control her public image.
It also shows she has self control in bucketloads and I respect that. The queen also has that self control. Some of the younger royals not so much. And maybe that’s ok too, they’re not going to be Queen.

As I said before the tour went down well here, in a country that has a very dim view of hierarchy. They know exactly the image they’re projecting - it’s clean, two youngish pleasant people with a young family, who seem decent, honest and spent time with the crowds. They’re a big asset on the foreign diplomatic circuit. This is soft power.
Contrast with someone like prince Andrew who has somewhat of a dodgy reputation, I firmly believe that William and Kate cultivate this just slightly safe image deliberately. It’s a savvy move.

Charismam · 04/02/2018 20:49

That's what I said upthread. It it NO wonder she plays it safe. Any time she pulls out a small flourish, she attracts so much criticism.

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