that awful pink m&s dress...

[Bleurghghghgh]

Is now haunting me via ads, with additional horrific items! Thanks MN!

Still plenty of them left at lakeside. So much for them flying out the store

There's also some lovely matching coulottes to go with them

Had alook in my tiny M&S on the wsy home tonight. 2 12s, 3 14s, 4 16s, 2 18s.

Actually it's not badly made and although synthetic the fabric hangs well and is good quality. The issue is the cut out back which is a design fault for the bigger sizes. And the colour - why, just why. If it was midnight blue it would be quite classy.

It's not the colour or the fabric that is the sticking point for me though both are bad.

It's the cut of it. Shapeless. And the seam on the sleeves is atrocious.

Now this is gorgeous.

It is. Where's it from?

Vivienne Westwood. I'm not sure if it is current season. I just Googled "Vivienne Westwood pink dress""

That's a good pink. The style is marmite though - I fear it wouldn't look at all good on a lot of women, including me.

Eek, I saw the dress yesterday and have been lying down in a dark room ever since. Mind you, it was hard to spot it amongst the other unbelievable dross they have in there at the moment. Could it be that they have so called designers on their payroll who are secretly working for other retailers and deliberately undermining the m and s brand?

Well, I enjoyed reading this thread a little while back and seeing gingernaut's heroic activities in trying the thing on and posting the photos.

Now I thought it didn't look great but that surely it couldn't be that bad. Thinking maybe Style & Beauty had higher standards than me.

Anyhow, went to M&S this lunchtime and saw the dress. And, OMG - was a horrible colour, design and fabric. Held the size 8 against me (and am, er, several sizes bigger than a size 8) and it came down to my ankles (am 5'2"). How did they come up with this monstrosity.

Incidentally, went to Hobbs as well and they did have dresses with the same type of sleeve.

Zara have coats in with that type of sleeve. It's very Margot Leadbetter.

Lass That really is beautiful.

As an aside, but still in pink-related news, this skirt is lovely and very me, but dp and dd2 said it was disgusting. Are they right?

No they are wrong. Lovely skirt and that pink is nothing like the dress.

That skirt is lovely!

Thanks, both. I may have to accidentally slip it in my basket when buying bread and milk!

The pink skirt is lovely

I can't comment on daughters but my husband hates my new trousers. He hasn't said a word but whenever I wear them, he looks at me like this

I saw someone wearing it yesterday at a very formal (big clue there!) garden party in London. Unfortunately, it did not look good!

Was it the queen or camilla?

I'd like that skirt but it would be too long for me.

I've got a £15 voucher to spend in M&S. Lucky lucky me. Hoping I can use it in the food department because I certainly won't be buying any clothes with it!

Errol - It will almost certainly be too long for me, too. I wish they'd do fewer things, and in a range of lengths, rather than zillions of things all designed for people who are seventeen feet tall.

I keep imagining what would happen if we did all wear these frocky horrors.

The streets filled with a myriad of shocking, stand out colours, massive flares (culottes), maxi dresses (3/4 length) screeching patterns, huge sleeves, cold shoulders, Bardot necklines and matching tropical trouser suits.

Some of the men's fashions are fairly stupid looking too.

Imagine if the head office staff of these shops had to wear these clothes - underwear and all.

The population would look ridiculous.

"Darling! I love that culturally inappropriate, African-style, printed kaftan! Where did you get that??"

"Oh Sweetie! It was Sainsbury's! It's meant to be a thigh length tunic. I'm wearing the matching leggings! Would you credit it?"

That would straighten out a few design ideas.

I really do think the executives have to wear the clothes they're trying to flog, though.

There aren't enough women in the higher tiers to wear it all - thay'd have to force a few guys into the bigger size dresses.

I'd love to see an AGM of shareholders. Or a board meeting.

I wish they'd do fewer things, and in a range of lengths, rather than zillions of things all designed for people who are seventeen feet tall.

It's odd, they seem to manage it reasonably well with jeans - different height and curvature catered for (whatever people may say about per una, their Roma cut jeans are (were?) good for short pears.)

It's the fashion equivalent of a scatter gun.

Keep firing this shit out and seeing what sells...

OhTinky If it's a decent sized M&S, the beauty dept is pretty good. If not then yes, food.

Thinking about it, they really upped their game in the beauty department a couple of years back and their food is the bee's balls so why can't they do the same with clothing?