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Skincare Ingredients

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Pupsiecola · 18/10/2016 16:08

Following on from the skincare routines post, what ingredients do you make sure you include in your products, for example, Vit C, Vit E, Hyaluronic acid?

TIA

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hollinhurst84 · 08/11/2016 13:15

I have introduced some love hearts hand wash and Korean hand cream into the toilets at work
People have gone from eyeing them suspiciously to asking where they are from GrinGrin

botemp · 08/11/2016 13:17

Get them some heart shaped Konjac sponges Christmas pressies sorted Grin.

hollinhurst84 · 08/11/2016 13:20

Well there is method in my madness
The hand wash is crap so people don't use it. I'm immunosuppressed. Buy nice hand wash, people use it, less germs for me WinkWink

Wellhellothere1 · 08/11/2016 13:21

Botemp- my skin without any product on it? Difficult to know as the only day in my adult life I went without product/make up was the day my son was born 6 years ago Blush
I think it would be like an oil slick TBH but tight around the eyes and that's despite using Retin A for the last year or two.
Do we all wear factor 50 even in winter? I must admit I slack a little. I'm in Scotland and go to work in the dark and return in the dark at the moment since the clocks changed so haven't been applying it!

botemp · 08/11/2016 13:22

Also I got a bit lost happily distracted in the name of a break on the internets just now and came across the following:

If you order anything from the Toleriane range online with Boots enter the code TOLESV for an additional £3 off the already 25% off, don't know how long it's valid for (code is from a week ago) and whether it's per item or order total.

botemp · 08/11/2016 13:25

x-post Wellhellothere1, I have to resum and do other non-breaky things. I'll answer you later, but what's your skin like after cleansing with a non-strippy one?

wiltingfast · 08/11/2016 13:27

Ok ok! Have stopped trying to reinvent good advice and have purchased the LRP toleriane fluid. Grin

The kind Clinique people took my smart moisturiser from me snd sent me off with body butter and take the day off balm instead Smile Mind you they did try really hard to get me to buy their cx cream but I balked st €80 a jar Shock That would be a LOT for me. Esp with NO research.

must order the cleanser too.

My poor dd is complaining about her Keratosis pilaris on her arms. She has it on her legs and bum too. She gets it from me alas, but mine is not hurting me. She is only 5. Anyone recommend a cream or wash for her?

Thanks for all the advice by the way. Am looking forward to renewed skin!

hollinhurst84 · 08/11/2016 13:33

For KP I have used successfully
Soap and glory clean on me
Bliss fabulous foaming body wash
Both used on a shower puff

Wellhellothere1 · 08/11/2016 13:36

Thanks Bo. My skin feels normal just after using a non-strippy cleanser. After an hour or so with no product my t zone would be oily with enlarged pores. Cheeks would be fine. Do you charge for this advice? If not you should Smile I think there is a massive market out there for someone with your knowledge.

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 13:58

The SPF50 I used and which bo referred to was Anessa Medicated Whitening Essence Facial UV. I used the one in the silver tube w/o moisturizer for "normal" days and the parallel "perfect" version in the gold tube for days out and while on holiday - and I LOVED both and will definitely repurchase next summer, and will try the spray version Grin
I don't know if it would be enough for winter though, but maybe with serum and oil under?
I can post a link to the eBay seller I bought it from later if there is any interest.
At the mo I'm using Caudelie Polyphenol day cream which is SPF20 as I don't spend too much time outside (my derm said it's enough for winter...).

(Wow, so cold today bo considering taking out my snow boots Confused)

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 14:03

Yeah and let's harp on about P50 Grin
The normal version contains all the acids, I believe- lactic, salicylic, malic, phytic.

OpenMindedSceptic · 08/11/2016 14:19

Aurora thanks for the info. I am going to look up both.
Botemp where do you get the Kose lotion from? Ebay?

EnidButton · 08/11/2016 14:26

hollin I have recently bought a load of love hearts soap for the same reason. Grin

EnidButton · 08/11/2016 14:35

Thank you very much for the advice Aurora and bo. Bit poorly today so can't type much but I've read it all and made a note of suggestions. Skin doesn't like the Clarins exfoliator as you guessed. I do think it's moisture/oil that needs adding rather than any drying out. It's why I have trouble finding things as things aimed at acne prone skin tend to be drying. I don't actually have any active spots atm, just the congested chin. Its all under the skin surface.

Will try the yogurt mask. I have all of that in. I love banana ice 'cream' btw Grin and mango, made with frozen mango chunks, is gorgeous.

Thank you Flowers

EnidButton · 08/11/2016 14:37

bo Oh and the lrp hydreane I'm using. I know it hasn't got anything brilliant in it but I'm using it up as its one if the only ones bought recently that doesn't have any bad effect. Do you think a tolereine (?) one would be better?

EnidButton · 08/11/2016 14:38

Sorry if you've already said. Memory is crap today.

hollinhurst84 · 08/11/2016 14:38

My chin is flaky at the minute, the sort of cleft of it. Foundation settling in. Think it's because I have two new piercings and I have to keep products away from that area Sad

Pupsiecola · 08/11/2016 18:15

Where do you buy P50 from?

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botemp · 08/11/2016 19:14

That'll be £250, please make sure to deposit it by the end of the month, ahem, all of you Grin. No, I wouldn't dream of charging a thing, I have no qualifications regarding this though that's not saying much considering who does charge for these sort of things. I'm sure I'm happily adding to the MN coffers with all the outbound links as I'm pretty sure they're using some type of affiliate scanner thing. I do agree there seems to be a gap in the market for this type of thing, one that isn't led by brands and products.

So by the sound of it you're more combo skin than properly oily, Wellhellothere1. So blends for combo skin like the Clarins should be a good bet, avoid ones that are high in oleic acid instead look for those high in linoleic acid (though all oils tend to contain both so it's all about a balance between these two). I should note that your current oil, isn't a true oil blend, it's mostly a derivative of coconut and glycerin, and an ester as its primary ingredients with a lot of essential oils in small amounts. I don't know what you're looking to spend but a good oil blend tend to cost a bit more.

With regard to sunscreen, it's not so much the factor that is important (the difference in protection between SPF30 and SPF50 is only a few %) but simply that you wear it. UVA rays are the same year round and reach indoors so unless you live/work in a bunker and literally never come into contact with daylight, SPF protection is needed. Especially if using Retin-A, acids, etc. if you can't commit to the daily sunscreen regimen you really risk doing more harm than good long term.

wiltingfast you should have bought that. Google informs me it's a £146 at Harrods, so unless the GBP has devalued even further while I wasn't paying attention, it's a bargain! looks like a proper crap, throw everything at the bathroom sink type cream though

KP with a 5yo is a tough one. The common approaches are:

Lactic Acid
Glycolic Acid
Salicylic Acid
Urea

All at relatively high % as the body takes a bit more, but none of which I'd feel all too comfortable subjecting a child to. Dry brushing is worth a go but will probably end in tears Sad. Oatmeal baths are good though as is avoiding any SLS body products. Is it worth consulting your GP about?

It's positively arctic, isn't it, Aurora? I actually need to buy some snowboots for this year, was looking at some Sorel ones at the Bijenkorf, but they're so hideous! The complete lack of strong winds seem to make it somewhat bearable though, otherwise my skin would be massively complaining. Think I'll layer up a bit of oil tomorrow morning just in case. Have your Ordinaries goodies arrived yet?

The V version is apparently also salicylic acid free, but yes the wonderful P50 which I'm pretty sure I've now recommended to everyone on here has all the great acids, except glycolic. Also, it's fab... buy some Grin.

In other news, Good Genes is close to 5%LA but SR claims it's like a 40% professional peel due to the low pH (see attached pic) Shock. Worst thing is, they've probably been touting 40% in all their PR material as blogs all dutifully advertise it as 40%, that really feels like some dishonest business practices.

OpenMindedSceptic, off of eBay. With Japanese SPF I do always buy from Japanese sellers, don't really trust how old the Taiwanese and HK ones are (Japanese sunscreen gets re-released each year with slightly different formulations). The Kose you can get a mini version first. Have a look at Ratzillacosme's site too, she pretty much has all the Japanese sunscreens on there (she doesn't review them all though but includes some basic information and INCI).

I think the Toleriane Fluid would probably work better for you, Enid. No HA, and squalane and glycerin (both good humectants that aren't clogging) are high up in the INCI. No oils so you can add your own on the parts of the face where you need it, etc. Maybe use up the hydreane in the areas where it isn't causing issues to finish it up?

I've also been thinking since BHA would be beneficial to you, you could consider the CosRx BHA ( or if someone who has it on here can send you a decant, would probably be more helpful, volunteers present thyself pretty please Halo). I've mentioned it before but due to Korean regulations they can't sell Salicylic OTC, so it's a different gentler form (betaine salicylate) that's more suited to sensitive skins. Perhaps it's one that won't irritate you?

Skincare Ingredients
botemp · 08/11/2016 19:17

You have to go to them or a medispa, Pupsie biologiquerechercheuk.co.uk/find-store. Think some do it over the phone but not sure on that or which ones. I think they have a spa area at Liberty's iirc.

Dulcimena · 08/11/2016 19:37

Evening, skincare bods :)

Just popping in to say that the multiple layers of hydration technique is great! Thank you Aurora for suggesting I try that. One question though about using oils in the am: I've always thought that oil underneath s/s would somehow dislodge it and stop it working. Tell me if this is ridiculous. I think it's to do with s/s I used to wear (Sofina Lucent - also the Anessa previously mentioned briefly) having to be removed with oil to properly get rid, so I may well have put 2 and 2 together and come up with 7...

From the forgotten stash Blush I've rediscovered Neals Yard rose facial oil (grapeseed, hazelnut, evening primrose) and have been building that in as an extra layer. Also, looking back at moisturisers I have previously loved, remembered about NY frankincense nourishing so have ordered some of that again.

Bo I didn't get on with Ordinary 10% lactic either, I did feel a tingle so it must have been doing something, but I didn't see the quick win I'd normally expect from acids. I'm using it up on my body (another fab suggestion).

P50 though I am really enjoying using and I'm glad I took the plunge on it. I have the W version that has all the AHAs but no salicylic, which is perfect because salicylic irritates me. You can buy it from the BR counter in Liberty's beauty hall, Pupsie. It's £52 though (sharp intake of breath).

Wilting I have no experience with 5yo skin, but for my KP, what's worked is Palmers AHA body lotion, brisk physical exfoliation (salux cloth) and sunlight. Not sure what of that would be appropriate for a little one's skin though.

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 20:38

Wow KP on a 5 yr old is tough. When my son had eczema all over one of the ppl we saw recommended applying some Hübner silica gel on it and it did wonders. Maybe you can google if it would help with KP? I think bo is right and you should use very gentle soaps and shampoos and moisturizer her skin. I used to order an amazing shower gel and body lotion for kids from the US - Every Day Shea Lavender and Lemon Shampoo - but maybe you can get in in Europe now? You could also gently use one of those loofah mits on her in the bath?

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 20:45

(Sorry for multiple messages but I'm on my phone)

I always apply SPF over oil, but I only use 1-2 drops in the AM and simply massage it well, so never thought it could interfere for the SPF....

bo if you mean those Sorel Cathrine something knee length boots I actually own a pair Grinwhich of course I bought from the Bijkorf! But a few years back already, and I love them though it is hard to look "elegant" in them, but they do look great with skinny jeans and chunky jumper.

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 20:50

Oh and of course I got my TO order today!!! I actually think the package is very beautifully in a kind of minimalist way, though TBH if the product works and certainly for that price I could not care less how it looks. So much marketing and BS goes into creating an illusion of luxury and "buying into" a brand/ luxury which are worth nothing if the product is mediocre or even just overpriced.

Speaking of which - I actually think P50 is not expensive as you use just a few drops 3 times a week, which makes that bottle last forever.

AuroraPolaris · 08/11/2016 20:51

Beautifully designed... tired brain Shock

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