What do you think of Kate Middleton's new hair do?

[iPaid]

I love the fringe!

[Lemonfizzypop]

It looks weird! Just get a proper fringe!

[mammuzzamia]

so you've read this thread because?

I haven't actually read it. Even to say I'd skimmed it would be a lie No need to, they're all the same these sexist, and worse royal themed, (really who cares) threads. As you were, OP.

[iPaid]

As you were, OP

Oh God, are people still trotting out that phrase on MN?

All I've said is I like her new hairdo and think she's gorgeous!

[stripytees]

I never understand the comments on MN about her clothes being too old in style for her. What is she supposed to wear? Some skimpy neon pink dress from River Island with biker boots, perhaps? Her clothes are always very appropriate and suit her figure. But then I think that about a lot of MN comments about certain things being too middle aged for those in their 30s etc. - many of us work in jobs where it wouldn't be appropriate to wear anything too short, too low cut etc.

I don't particularly like the hairstyle but it's ok. Wearing her hair up suits her well but she doesn't seem to do that very often.

[MamaLazarou]

I think she looks like an ironing board, and much older than her years. I don't understand all the 'stunning' comments: she is very ordinary-looking, has no top lip and wears too much eyeliner.

[mammuzzamia]

Oh God, are people still trotting out that phrase on MN?

Oh dear, I must be behind the times. How dreadful.

As you were with your thought provoking thread on Kate Middleton's appearance.

[VivienneO]

pink, braces don't actually change the shape of a tooth and make it 20% larger! Compare some photos.

[AllThePrettySeahorses]

I agree with you, MamaLazarou. I see far prettier women and girls all the time. Honestly, would her looks be lauded if she was just a normal person? Because of her position, it could be argued that she defines what prettiness is and it doesn't matter whether she is lovely or not (and I for one don't think she is, not even with all the help she has) - as a major public figure, her face sets the standard for beauty rather than her looks having to actually fit the nebulous template of being beautiful iyswim.

[iPaid]

Mammuzz - it's Style & Beauty, not the United Nations - what do you expect??!!

[pinkfrocks]

Vivienne I know the difference between braces and veneers, thanks!
I've looked. I don't agree. All you are seeing is one angle on a photo. It's possible that from a different angle her teeth would look the same- except for having moved position. I certainly can't see a 20% difference.

I don't get people saying she is 'ordinary'. IMO she is pretty and very pretty. her features are neat and symmetrical,she has lovely eyes, lovely teeth and she's just well... pretty!

I don't think any of us who think she is pretty are blinded by the fact she is a Royal and that somehow creates the notion of 'this is what pretty looks like'. Princess Anne anyone?

Her clothes are a working wardrobe, just like yours would be if you had to don formalwear for the office or wherever you work.

Give her a break. she's a normal-ish middle class woman, doing her best to fit into an institution, whilst presumably not losing sight of who she is, but also conforming to a certain standard of dress when on duty.

[VenusRising]

I do wonder why she's working so soon again? That's not a long break for having her babies, and also when she was so ill when pregnant.

I think I'd be happier to see a lot less of her, and for her to recover, and get some sleep. She looks drawn, and I'm sure a few months of being a new mum and grabbing sleep when she can, and getting some nutrient rich food down her to build up her mineral health, would do her the world of good.

The daily fail has a lot to answer for, hounding her and saying she's reclusive, when she's recovering from the births.
Everyone else gets at least 6 months off to recover- why not her?

As for her "using her degree", most non vocational degrees train the person to form a critical argument, so she is using that daily in her day to day work.

[bigbuttons]

She hasn't got much else to do though. Not sure what she needs a rest from? Being rich in a large house with servants??? No housework, always staff on hand if she doesn't fancy do something or wants a break from the kids. it's not a hard life.

[polyhymnia]

Totally agree with bigbuttons. It's ridiculous to suggest she isn't well cushioned by nannies, cooks, secretaries etc from the exhausting routine and tasks ' ordinary' working mums have to deal with.

And I'd hardly call it 'going back to work'. She doesn't have a demanding schedule of visits etc compared to some royals such as Anne.

I agree a non vocational degree primarily trains the mind but most graduates whatever their gender and background use that training to do a 'normal' job, day in and day out. She barely worked even before marriage. I may be an old fashioned feminist, but in my book that isn't being a good role model.

[pinkfrocks]

There are thousands of women who have children quite soon after having a degree but who then go on to work when their children are older. I think that is an unfair criticism because I know plenty of women her age and younger who have gained degrees and had babies as young as 25, then picked up a career later on. Given the responsibilities she will have once she is Queen, however much ahead that is, why can't she enjoy life now and her family, without having everyone criticise her?

As for having staff, the staff won't help her body recover, or pick up Charlotte in the night, or breastfeed, I assume. Your body takes a year at least to fully recharge itself from childbirth and she has had 2 babies within 2 years, in her 30s. Diana (if we want to compare) was 10 years younger, as was the Queen who had a child at 22.

[bigbuttons]

Her staff might not breastfeed her baby. However, she can rest all day if she wants, she doesn't have to do housework , she doesn't have to cook, she can get other people to do it all for her.
If she looks shit she has hoards of people doing her hair, makeup and sorting out her wardrobe. She never has to worry about childcare, money or work.
She has a cushy life.

[pinkfrocks]

You sound envious BB.
I'd not want her life for all the tea in China- for example, you get strangers on forums critiquing you!

Sure she won't HAVE to cook or do housework, but then loads of 'ordinary' women don't do that either- cleaners come in and ready meals make cooking pretty easy. And lots of women have mums, nannies, DH's who help them at home.

But TBH I think she's a hands-on type of mum and if her DCs need her, she'll do it herself. I'm sure she's not lounging on a sofa all day while the kids are entertained. You also underestimate the physical effects of giving birth and breastfeeding for months, coming after months of extreme morning sickness.

[bigbuttons]

How do you know I underestimate that?

Not envious, but of course wouldn't mind having no money worries and as much money as I wanted to spend on nice clothes and go on exotic hols.

I just don't get how anyone can feel sorry for someone in such a privileged position.

[ErrinPerrin]

Some of you are saying the nannies will give Kate a break. It's the other way round in this type of household. The norm will be for the nannies to do everything for the children, including nights, and Kate to drop in and out and get involved as she wishes. I agree she looks tired but it's not going to be for quite the same reasons as the average new mother.

[pinkfrocks]

I don't know how anyone can profess to be an expert on 'the household'. This is 2015 not 1915- Kate will be breast feeding and no wet nurse is doing that for her.

I don't understand how anyone sees the life of a Royal as privileged. Yes they have money and anything money can buy but you only have to look at the unhappiness in the family to see that money doesn't equal happiness. I don't regard living in the public eye being under scrutiny, putting a smile on my face even when I don't feel like going out, and being criticised over my make up, hair and clothes as 'privileged'. Much rather be a poor pleb!

[Gobbolinothewitchscat]

So nobody can pronounce on "the household", pink but it's fine for you to state as absolute fact that she will be breastfeeding

Just to piss on your chips with that one, George and Kate were at the polo (outside - in full view of the plebs) for hours and hours when Charlotte was about 6 weeks old sans Charlotte

I am a champion expresser as I exclusively expressed for my 1 and 2 year olds for 8 months and 5 months respectively and there is no way that I could have gone that long without expressing - my tits would have exploded.

So, I think the likelihood is that she is bottle feeding or mixed feeding. Which is, of course, absolutely fine and I just want to be quite clear: I am not criticising her for that.

And, yes, I'm sure it's very tiring with her DC. I have a 1 and a 2 year old with a 13 month gap and am currently 33 weeks pregnant again. I only poor me have a cleaner to help. I think I can reliably say that I would be less tired of I had a nanny etc to also assist. That is just common sense. Not "jealousy"

[pinkfrocks]

Blimey- you sound cross.
No need to be so vulgar and shouty!
Have a restful evening.

[spiralstaircase]

Not keen on the hair.
She is pretty but looks older than her years probably partly because of being underweight.

I don't understand why anyone would assume that she was breast feeding. Far more likely that she is bottle feeding like the majority of women particularly given the day and night nannies that she will have at her disposal and the fact that she has been apart from the baby for hours at a time (not that it matters at all, just a strange assumption).
Of course she has a very relaxing day to day life compared to 99% of the population but she does have the constant pressure and scrutiny which must be very stressful.

[Gobbolinothewitchscat]

I'm not cross, pink not am I "vulgar" or "shouty". I'm pointing out simple facts to counter the inconsistencies in your posts.

If you have actual facts to counter the points on the thread, fine - but assigning emotions such as "cross"/"envious" to people who don't agree with you doesn't evidence your points

[howtorebuild]

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2013700/Kate-Middleton-A-waist-Nicole-Kidman-look-dumpy.html

[MrsEdinburgh]

Ffs Kate looks fine & damned if she does & damned if she doesn't. At least she's not doing weird things with a dead pig!