will we EVER rid the concept of a TUNIC from S&B?

[Amblin]

no its none of my business
no there is still world poverty to worry about

etcetc

BUT STOP WITH TH TUNICS FFS

I used to wear all manner of shiny things around my neck, then I realised it didn't suit me.

straight jeans, high rise
i like peg trousers but am long

I used to have a couple of tunics.

Oh yeah, skinny jeans and a short wide sweater. How attractive on the not-thin of us.

The thing is, any clothing choices that do skim, slightly flatter or attempt to conceal extra weight tend to be derided on here as mum wear.

There is no useful advice offered on a realistic and flattering alternative to tunics/bootcuts/empire line and so on (because there isn't much else that genuinely would flatter), just sneers about how mumsy it is and how nobody is fooled into thinking you're slimmer for wearing it.

Nothing that non skinny women can wear without surplus flesh bulging out all over the place will ever be seen as stylish by some people. The very fact that something is a popular choice with women who are bigger than size 10 wear it will render it 'safe', frumpy and so on in the eyes of people who consider themselves stylish.

In all seriousness, despite the fact I have slagged off tunics on this thread, isn't it far, far more preferable that a woman wears what she feels comfortable and happy in, rather than follow the Gok Wan approach and wear pencil skirts with all manner of terrible spanx underwear underneath and be in a sweaty and constricted state all day.

Yu. Gok crap.

Yep, fashion is designed to be only available to the few. Look at how small breasts are 'fashionable' now that the average woman's boob size has increased. In the 80s it was all about larger breasts.

Similarly, tans didn't become fashionable until everyone started working indoors and you had be able to afford a holiday to get one.

Gok terrible

Getorf - yes.

Gok is vile. He has the narrowest view of what is attractive in a woman. I find him offensive.

I find him offensive as well.

Get yer bangers out

I like thislength

i like gok

This thread's growing faster than I can read it! Well done, Amblin. It's going to have to wear tunics soon

Patterned empire-line monstrosities -I have one of these! It's a bright pink-and-purple paisley affair. I had to wear shades when I took it to the checkout.

It's the only thing that reliably draws compliments
I wear it with straight-leg trousers. Since the dress forms a distinct pyramid shape, leggings make it look like an unfortunate explosion in a jam factory.

I've got to say, though, I love churidar kameez and would probably live in them if I weren't so obviously not Asian!

Noddy, I can't think of any body shape that top would flatter! You're way too pretty to hide under a grey paper bag!

lol at garlic

I don't like all the clothes that have fussy details on the shoulders, or that are cut to make your shoulders look broader. What woman wants her shoulders to look broader?

That is an interesting point, Sherbert.

So not being skinny = being mumsy.

Hmmmmmmm.

It seems the misogynists have done their work well.

Well done fashionistas! You have internalised the message and spread it forth for them.

I bought this at the weekend, it describes itself as a tunic dress, I'm firmly in the dress camp with it, grey opaques, Belstaff Agnes laced ankle boots. Looked fantastic.

Anyway, wear what you like, I only ever give a shit what I look like. If you want to talk fashion with me - lovely - if you want to wear tunics, leggings & flat boots, go for your life.

Or sequined shorts, or purple loon-pants, or waterfall cardigans, or mum-boots.....I don't care & neither should you or anyone else.

(Oh & yes - Gok = bad)

Just read this thread with interest as i'm not a S&B regular i just pop over every now and then.

I am surprised at how many people wear and advise wearing skinny jeans. I have yet to see them look good on anybody - including models. They seem to me to be the ugliest and most boring item of clothing i have ever seen.

i don't wear tunics, and have never noticed them. i am a new mum and have no mum friends tho.

i don't wear jeans anymore because boot cut are considered frumpy (altho they do look good on my shape - tall curvy size 12) and skinnies are hideous. i also don't wear leggings (chunky calves) so end up wearing tailored trousers with v neck jumpers and brogues or wrap dresses. However, sometimes i do feel as tho i could be 65 years old.

Not that shape that length. I hate past thighs unless its a dress!

I don't agree with the whole "Over Size 10 = instant frump".

I'm a curvy 12-14 and wouldn't touch boden/fat face/white stuff/tunics/leggings with someone elses.

I wear 40's/50's style dresses with opaques and t-bars or Mary Janes. Pencil skirts with retro blouse/tops. Tea dresses with opaques and biker boots and bright (non waterfall) cardigans. In Summer I wear 50's style capri jeans with sweetheart neck short-sleeve sweaters and leopard print flats and a headscarf. Or sun dresses with ballet pumps.

Frumpiness and boringness is a state of mind. Some people care about what thet look like and take an interest in clothes. Some don't.

And to the poster who said to give up once you turn 35.

In fact most of the fashion industry driven by gay/straight men - not the best for women - anyway completely different thread, nothing against the gayers - just don't think they necessarily understand or are an entirely healthy influence on women's feelings about their bodies & fashion.

In fact much as I love clothes, fashion is an industry driven by insecurity & a constant need for 'churn', change & people's (read women's) desire for the next, the new & the transformative.

Much better to feel at home in leggings & a tunic really.

I agree bunny I don't think it is all about size. It is about wearing what fits and suits you. Long tops are not the answer unless they look great on you Wearing one does not really disguise anything. My sister is what would be considered 'big' and always looks fab not frumpy ever