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DukesOfTripHazard · 18/10/2011 17:26

Where the cool and the discerning hang out. New one.

Chat now, innit.

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bigTillyMint · 27/11/2011 12:57

Herbs, swanky dress - get you! Did you wear it last night?

MI, well done - very interesting article - have you already been paid for it, or is there a cheque winging it's way to you now?!

wilbur · 27/11/2011 15:46

Love the dress Herbs - bet you looked fab in it.

Glad the article is done and out there, MI - really interesting. Something I am working on at the moment involves a backdrop of a charitable hostel for young women in the theatre business (it ran for donkey's years and is now part of Centrepoint). It was set up originally by a classic Edwardian benefactor and it strikes me how that so rarely happens now - yes there is private charitable giving, but it's mostly one-off things rather than sustained support. Or people set up a charity to fund a school in Bangladesh, for instance, but not housing for the vulnerable on thier doorstep. Not that the school is not deserving, god know it is, but it would be interesting to know why those kind of charitable urges have changed in the last 50 years.

I also got drunk last night and got a bit ranty about working for peanuts and feeling like I am in competition with someone 20 years younger than me for my job. Someone at work is going on maternity leave which creates an opportunity for me to work an extra day a week and do a lot more of the interesting stuff (working more with the head of the company on certain projects, learning the ropes etc). So far so good. But then this week they decided to rearrange what I do now (which is very junior, but stuff that I can organise myself and that is quite fun and busy), combine it with the duties of the company head's PA (who is just out of Uni) and sort of split both the fun, interesting stuff and the boring shit between the two of us. She clearly feels this means she has been promoted and that we are equal office juniors (which was not the case before). And I am REALLY struggling with it - very hurt pride mainly. I know I have been out of the business for 10 years, but I have 12 years of experience which I feel should count for something. Plus, I know one of the reason they have given me some of the shit to do is that I am very organised, reliable and good at dealing with difficult people, the the company head would prefer me to be the point of contact for some of the more tricky people he deals with. I have had this before, years ago, in my career - one boss told me to my face that he would do everything in his power to keep me as his PA (to be fair he offered me a lot of money), and another time I overheard a meeting where they were discussing promoting people and I was up for a step up and my boss said no, I was more valuable to the company as his assistant. I have not, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, made good career choices, but I just feel so powerless. I managed to stand up for myself and ask for extra money, which I got, but now I am feeling demoralised. I shouldn't take these things so personally, should I? I have done that in the past, left jobs and tried to find the magic place instead of sticking it out. Any advice gratefully received.

Blackduck · 27/11/2011 16:31

(quickly hugs wilbur and then turns it into a manly pat on the back)
But it is personal so how can you take it any other way? I too am seen as the safe pair of hands, and whilst, as far as I know I haven't been deliberately held back, I do get the shit borin, or difficult stuff. I too have left jobs because I have got so angry about how I have been treated.
Sorry wilbur this probably isn't helping, and I really don't know what to suggest.....just wanted to acknowledge situation and offer a shoulder.

motherinferior · 27/11/2011 17:25

Wilbur [sympathy emoticon]. I am working with immediate colleagues who are THIRTY ONE, btw. I keep going on and on about how journalism is my second career, etc etc but really feel Utterly Ancient.

WHY are women who do a good job seen as therefore Reliable And Essential In Their Place? Why is efficiency seen as somehow the essential underpinning to the impulsive creative types (who are usually blokes)? Makes me very angry.

bigTillyMint · 27/11/2011 17:36

Wilbur and MI, it must be infuriating.

But efficiency and reliability are really important at work - they should be paying you appropriately if they really value your skills.

MI we are not Utterly Ancient, we are in our PRIMESmile

bigTillyMint · 28/11/2011 15:45

Wilbur, I was thinking about you today - have you moved yet? I met a friend for lunch in a surprisingly nice bar/cafe in Stret HillSmile

wilbur · 28/11/2011 16:55

No Tilly, not yet. It may have gone pear-shaped due to scary survey. We'd been told there was asbestos in an outbuilding that was built at a different time to the house, but it seems it's likely to be throughout the house as well Sad. To be fair, any house built in the 50s is likely to have it, but I am pissed off that they did a big thing about being "honest" about the asbestos and the drains but not really revealing the extent of it. As we would need to make some changes to the house, the asbestos thing is a problem as it would need to be professionally removed. Unless they are willing to knock some serious money off, we won't be able to afford it. Now we have decide if we want to pay for testing to really see what's what and then negotiate - but I'm not sure the vendors are willing to come down any further in price.

wilbur · 28/11/2011 16:56

Streat Hill is getting nice though - quite a few people I know are moving that way for big houses that are still affordable-ish.

bigTillyMint · 28/11/2011 18:54

Oh no - what a pain. Fingers crossed they see sense and knock some dosh off. I thought she might have Subway lined up, but it was a proper bar/cafe, and barely any small childrenGrin

MrsSchadenfreude · 28/11/2011 20:53

I lived in Leigham Court Road, near the abortion clinic, when I first moved to London, and shared a house there. We had a high old time, I can tell you. Grin That was The Slapper Years. BlushGrin

motherinferior · 28/11/2011 21:17

OOh, MrsS, did you occasionally drink too much??? Grin

Stropperella · 28/11/2011 21:19

Grin @ MrsS. I have no knowledge of that part of London. I was far too busy during my Slapper Years in Wandsworth to venture as far afield as that Grin

bigTillyMint · 29/11/2011 08:43

My London Slapper Years were in ClaphamGrin Those were the days!

rubyrubyruby · 29/11/2011 10:28

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CointreauVersial · 29/11/2011 12:56

Sorry to say I didn't have any slapper years.

If you want to imagine me as a teen/twenty-something, think Saffy in Ab Fab. Right down to the slightly overweight fashion designer mother!

herbaceous · 29/11/2011 13:49

I spent my slapper years in Golders Green and Islington. And at uni in Liverpool. And in Australia. I was quite a slapper.

Still knackered after birthday weekend. Not helped by cat waking me up repeatedly last night. The shit.

bigTillyMint · 29/11/2011 13:57

I just don't believe it CVGrin

Oh, and MrsS I see your abortion clinic and raise you - I lived above a sex shop as a studentWink

Herbs, I thought your cat had gone to the cat place in the sky?

MrsSchadenfreude · 29/11/2011 21:11

Oh I have fond memories of Golders Green - dinner at Solly's Exclusive (when Solly was still alive - he always used to tell DH that he looked like a film star Grin), and also the Cafe on the Green. (This was post slapper days.) Slapper days were fun, but now a fond memory, err... Blush

herbaceous · 29/11/2011 23:22

I used to live in a brothel. Well, an ex-brothel. It had a panic button in the main bedroom, a sauna shoehorned into a cupboard, and a shower cubicle bunged in beside it. The cupboards were full of flouncy cushion covers.

BTM - one cat has snuffled off, the other lives on. And has expanded his ouevre to include all the annoying things the old one did, except shit on the study carpet.

MrsSchadenfreude · 30/11/2011 06:44

You win, Herbs. Grin

Not shitting on the study carpet is good, though. Smile Our Maine Coon has an exceptionally fluffy bottom and sometimes has difficulty shaking off the last bodgie nut. He usually slides down the end of the bath to dislodge it...

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herbaceous · 30/11/2011 09:22

Mmm. Bed. DS didn't wake up until 8am today, and the cat didn't jump on me five times in the night, so I'm feeling raring to go.

Thanks for eye thoughts Ruby. He's getting on with it brilliantly. He wears it all day now, and it looks excellent. If you didn't know, you wouldn't know, IYKWIM. He does cry when we're putting it in, and isn't a fan of taking it out, but is fine with it within a minute.

He was even enacting the process with his teddy the other day. 'Now teddy. Let's do your eye. It won't take a minute. There. All done. Good boy teddy'. weep

On the other hand, he also tries to take my eye out, which is less appealing.

DukesOfTripHazard · 30/11/2011 13:14

Get you with your brothels and sex shops and slapper years. Mine started in Ealing, then went to Walthamstow before coming to an end in Brixton. I have lived about a third of my life as a slapper. The middle third. My life has been a slapper sandwich if you will.

I have been quiet because I am trying really hard to get a play idea commissioned. I think, I hope, I have just one more hurdle to go, although I know from Bitter Experience that a bit like going up a mountain, the summit keeps being another hill away. The changes that are wanted are changes that don't mess with my vision, man, and will solve a minor problem, so am fairly fired up to do another draft of the treatment. Please, please think thoughts for me. This would be a really big deal.

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herbaceous · 30/11/2011 13:39

Sending vibes your way, Dukes. Especially as you're an ex-Walthamstower! I now live in Walthamstow!

Mrs S's cat arse reminds me that our remaining cat (who I think has some maine coon in him) also brings in dangling winnets, generally when we have visitors. Whereas the one who died used to scoot his arse across the carpet, like a dog, leaving a skid mark. We used to call it 'doing a Mrs Warbouys'. Quite why is lost in the mists of time.

bigTillyMint · 30/11/2011 15:46

Oooh how exciting, Dukes. Fingers crossed for you! And our slapper years may have crossed in Brixton - I did spend a bit of time there back in the day! Did you ever frequent the Landor?

Glad to hear the eye is going so well Herbs, but I did get a bit of a lump on reading about his teddy.

Now I know why we don't have any animals in the house. It's bad enough with DH and the DCGrin