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We Wise ladies Avidly are buying gifts that traverse afar...l

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bunnymother · 23/11/2010 15:13

Oh my God, I choked (try and hum along to We Three Kings...)!! But here is the new thread.

OP posts:
hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:06

sorry all those you suffering sleep issues...I understand your pain as DS was a horrific sleeper.

hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:09

has anyone found any decent lace tights or are they are bit Hmm? I like the Wolford ones here but way way too expensive. Any alternatives or should I steer clear entirely (i'm thinking with plain black or grey dresses..)

LetThemEatCake · 25/11/2010 14:12

reine there was a channel 4 documentary a few years back about people who paid shed loads of £ for life like baby dolls and then, you know, treated them like real babies. Was called My Fake Baby. Terrifying and sad.

We have a dolls house. It is inhabited by dinosaurs Grin

Deffo get stripey Januce at that price! Wearing mine today (yes, from floor) over black polo neck black falkes and belstaffs, under black cardi and camel cost. Good day/ night dress, worth every penny

mrsjuan · 25/11/2010 14:12

Marsha - woes is the word for it. Since Monday she's been waking up at about 11.30 and I can't get her back to sleep for love nor money for about 3 hours. Last night was just ridiculous - up at 11. I managed to get back into my bed at 4am.

Co sleeping doesn't work at the moment as she just leaps around the bed so it's dangerous. I wouldn't mind leaving her for a bit of a whinge or even a few minutes crying if that worked but in the middle of the night she goes immediately into hysterical screaming if I don't pick her up. I ended up getting into her cot bed last night as a last resort and even then she couldn't sleep for an hour or so.

It makes me feel like such an awful mother. And makes me a shit mother in the day as well because I'm so tired.

To answer your question - yes, she has a cot (bed) in her own room which she has been in since she was about 7 months (for the first part of the night anyway. I think she was coming in with us most nights at about 3am until she was about 14 months old).

Anyway - back to being avid and wise. Going to brave Topshop later to see if the coated skinnies work for me. It's right opposite Primark so if you are still after the brooch cake I can have a quick look.

mrsjuan · 25/11/2010 14:14

hells - 'was' - I like that word - does that mean he's a good sleeper now? How long have we got?

traceybath · 25/11/2010 14:21

LTEC - I remember that documentary it was very sad and odd.

traceybath · 25/11/2010 14:23

Mrs J and Marsha - mucho sympathy on the sleep front - it is just so hard when you are constantly tired.

Romanarama · 25/11/2010 14:27

Oh Sad I can't get Janice as don't have a UK billing address.

hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:28

mrs j - I'm afraid I resorted to a gentle version of controlled crying (yes I know you will all hate me for doing it).

None of us were sleeping at all and it had reached such a critical point that I had to do it (I think you have to be desperate to consider it). He was 9 nearly 10 months when we did it. 2 days were hellish (a whole hour of crying - though we were constantly reassuring) but by the end of the week (the later days were not so bad) he was a perfect sleeper...I swore I would do it again with my 2nd child if only I had known how well it worked. Luckily DD hasn't had much trouble with her sleep.

But I know it's not for everyone and I can assure you I never thought I would be someone that did it. However I was turning into a terrible mother because of the tiredness and I actually truly believe it was a better option for us to do it.

blossoming · 25/11/2010 14:32

Just got a text from bunny! babies are here!! Since 1200 and 1201. They weighed 2.88 and 2.7 kg. Everyone is healthy and happy. Phew!!

loobylu3 · 25/11/2010 14:33

Popping on to see if there is any word from bunny but I see her CS was postponed because the hospital forgot the steroids!
Hopefully will hear good news later today.

zembo- good for you for dressing up for work yesterday- sounds like a lovely outfit! I have the same dress and agree that red definitely cheers one up. I must go and buy some of those heat tech tops as has suddenly become freezing here today

yangy-sorry that you are feeling so stressed at the moment. I totally understand how RL gets on top of you at times and the stress gets too much!
I noticed that you mentioned that you were 'bringing in the bacon' at the moment. Does that mean that your DH/DP is not working currently? Is it at all possible for hime to be around at home a litle more? Is your baby in nursery or do you have a nanny?
I have a feeling you have a nanny in which case would nursery save you some money? It is certainly far chaeaper where I live and we have always used nursery for this reason (would ideally prefer a nanny). Could that free up a little money for you to spend on a mother's help for the evenings so that you can have time with DD1? Also a cleaner for a couple of hours a day could be a life saver. An au pair could also be a thought. Seriously, try to think of anything that can help you at the moment even if just for a short time as the early years are hard, especially with the multitude of roles you have to fulfill as a working mum!

If anyone is interested, there is currently a 25% off offer on at Hobbs.
I saw this there the other day and it looks really nice (much nicer than in the photo). It's a lovely warm shade of camel and quite a bright blue. There is also a leopard print merino wool dress in grey/ purple whch is also nice+
Worth a look!

LetThemEatCake · 25/11/2010 14:34

mrsj that would be fab thanks!

roma am happy to order for you and send it on?

Dd perfect sleeper, boys were both awful. All good now but it took some work.

It's supervised craft and stories at the library, if you're wondering why I'm neglecting the boys btw!!

mrsjuan · 25/11/2010 14:35

Gosh, no hatred hells - I am willing to try almost anything - the problem is that I have managed to get her to go to sleep by herself at bedtime (believing this to be the holy grail of self settling) and that has involved a bit of crying (with us staying in the room reassuring) but this doesn't seem to translate to her being able to settle herself if she wakes in the night.

And as much as I can deal with some tears at 7pm, I can't at midnight, especially as we have new neighbours and have shitty soundproofing.

I so thought we'd have this sorted by now. I can't see what I'm doing wrong or how I can sort it out.

traceybath · 25/11/2010 14:36

Yeay for bunny and the baby bunnies Grin

Hells - we all parent differently and do what works for us as individuals and families Smile

hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:36

Oh how exciting...and rather wonderful times to be born eh? midday and all.

blossoming · 25/11/2010 14:36

Emmeline first then Aurelia. They don't have Internet access though.

mrsjuan · 25/11/2010 14:38

Oooooooh! Congratulations Bunny family! Wow! Am so excited Grin

PlumSykes · 25/11/2010 14:40

The bunnikins are here! Yippee!

Bonsoir · 25/11/2010 14:40

hells - I have those very same Wolford lace tights and they are not particularly flattering - have no regrets!

hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:41

mrsj - that's much trickier and I agree that controlled crying won't work in the same way (especially as she's already slept so won't get tired and could go on for hours).

Did you ever see the 'house of tiny tearaways' on TV? With the Tania Byron (sp?) lady (also baby whisperer programme). I'm sure she had some sort of solution to this...how old is DD now? I'm racking my brains to try and remember what she did (I'm sure there is a technique that doesn't involve crying). I do have some books 'no cry sleep solution' which I bought just in case for DD and haven't used. Do you want me to send them to you? Not sure if they are any good as I didn't need to read them this time round. If you want them just pm me your address.

When we did the CC with DS we actually wrote to the neighbours to explain what we were going to do and they understood it would be better for them in the long term!

blossoming · 25/11/2010 14:43

mrsj, I'm with hells. My book said the same conditions have to there whenever the child wakes, so in the night when you're not there it's different from bedtime when you are there. We used a rabbit which was the constant and took out the singing, rocking and dummy as the dummy would fall out at night and he couldn't put it back in himself. It took less than two days.

monkeysmama · 25/11/2010 14:44

Welcome to the world Aurelia and Emmeline! Congratulations to little C on becoming a big sister and to Bunnymummy and Bunnydaddy!

Romanarama · 25/11/2010 14:45

Cake I would love it if you did - will email you.

MrsJ I also left ds1 to screech the place down one night, and after those few hours of torture he has ever after been a perfect sleeper - completely reliable 12hrs straight from 4 months old. Ds2 was a good sleeper anyway (I think because of his addiction to sucking his thumb), at least untl ds3 was born.

Ds3 was terrible, but it was all different then. Firstly I couldn't let him cry as ds2 was so jealous his sleeping was all awry and he woke up and howled and we were so tired the whole thing was a total nightmare. So I put him in bed with me. I didn't sleep much for ages, and it was absolutely a difficult time, but at least I had some time with my baby - what with going back to work ft when he was 6 months, and having the others so little as well, I felt it important to have some time together. It was all very hard on ds2 though. I don't think there are obvious solutions, but I do think sleep is very important for your wellbeing and to be a nice person/wife/mummy.

Romanarama · 25/11/2010 14:47

Oh Congratulations to all the bunnies! Not too tiny at all then, that's great news!

hellsbelles · 25/11/2010 14:47

I was just about to post on Bunny's facebook page and then realised that would be a little tactless if other RL friends didn't yet know (and her virtual one did!)

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