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KhakiGoose · 13/01/2025 23:11

Throwaway account. I actually posted this on another step-parenting forum recently but wanted to get some more perspective as after yet another conversation with my OH about it, I feel like I’m going around in circles. This is going to be long, sorry.

I’ve been with my partner for a year now, we don’t live together and I have no plans to. I have DS13 and DS10 and he has one DS who is 4, and we both have 50/50. Our Sundays with our respective kids fall on opposite weekends so I spend my free ones with OH and his son.

I'll admit that when I met his son (very early on in the relationship which with hindsight I wasn't 100% comfortable with) I did put maximum effort in to everything the whole time we were together. Obviously I wanted it to go well and my OH was also super keen for us to start to 'bond’. His son is sweet enough but I find him very 'full on' and quite demanding of time and attention. For example he doesn't seem to be able to play by himself for even very short periods of time (he will start sobbing and saying he can't and doesn't know how to etc when suggested to him). When we are playing, all his games involve being very physical, pretending to be things (pirates, aliens etc), hide and seek, the floor is lava, that kind of thing. Even when we sit down and watch a movie or show, it's a constant running commentary on everything and just doesn't feel like a remotely relaxing experience. He's only recently in the last couple of weeks starting sleeping in his own bed consistently (after I pretty much insisted on it) and will still wake up needing OH a few times a night. I do also find him quite baby-ish in other ways, such as still having a dummy, having a bottle of juice at bedtime, using a buggy etc, but I try to keep my parenting preferences to myself if it's not directly affecting me (like the sleep issue was).

Anyway, for various reasons I haven't been sleeping well at all for the past 3 months or so, have been dealing with a few chronic health issue flare ups, and struggling a bit with anxiety. As a result I've been pretty exhausted. I work a fairly mentally demanding job, and as mentioned have two boys of my own who also have busy schedules. I've found myself starting to put some boundaries in place with my OH's son in terms of taking more regular breaks from playtime, taking myself off to the bedroom for some time to rest and decompress (between 15-30 mins for example), going to bed earlier if they’re having a late movie night or where possible having a lie in on a Sunday.

During a discussion about all sorts of life/parenting things, it's come to light that my OH isn't too happy that I've taken this step back. He feels I should be making more effort to play whenever his DS wants, and should be getting up with them when it's his Sunday as the kid is excited to spend time with me and it's unfair of me to 'lie in bed for hours' ignoring them downstairs. Aside from the fact that I'm particularly exhausted right now, l'm up by 6am five days a week and often take my DS's to football matches of a weekend or am facilitating their social lives and sleepovers etc, even when it’s not technically my weekend, (which I absolutely don’t mind). I feel like I'm entitled to spend the odd Sunday l actually have off, resting and recharging a little. For context I can only think of one occasion where I did stay in bed for a few hours when I was having a truly shitty day, more often than not l'll be up and about with them within an hour or so and will then spend the whole day with them. OH says he feels disappointed that I don't want to maximise my time with his DS, that he's tired too but just has to get on with it, and that he finds it hard not to be sad when DS is excited to spend time with me but l 'choose to sit on my phone ignoring him’ instead.

I've told him that I'm giving everything I have right now. It's not that I don't care, don't like him or his son, or want the relationship to go backwards. But I'm not a bottomless pit, I'm a human being with my own needs and wants and I'm struggling to give everyone and everything in my life 100% or even 80% right now because I'm so run down. He says he understands to a degree but has essentially told me that unless I can be all in, I should just stay at home when he has his son as he can't cope with the disappointment. My stance is that it shouldn't need to be so black and white, all or nothing. We should be able to compromise, he should be able to trust me that I'm not just being lazy and I will give as much effort as I possibly can (which yes may look different on any given day), and that it might perhaps be a valuable lesson for his son to learn that people aren't robots here to cater to his every whim every waking minute of the day.

Am I being selfish?

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Geppili · 13/01/2025 23:48

Please tell us your partner cooks, does bath, bedtime and laundry for his son, not you! He should be wanting to devote lots of one on one quality time with his son. I wonder how much he did with his previous partner.

I was wondering this.

Sashya · 13/01/2025 23:50

Can you not try to synchronize the weekends - wo that you have some child-free weekends?
But if that is not possible (not sure why not though, and over time it must be possible) - I do agree with others and personally I'd be staying back most of the weekend he has his son, if you are feeling run down.

However - I do think there is a bigger issue here. His son is still very young. So - your OH has years of parenting him, which will continue to be full on. Are you sure you are up for it - because with a kid this small, you sort of have to take a more involved step parenting role, which you seem reluctant to do.

GeorgeBeckett · 13/01/2025 23:53

The two immediate questions from reading your post

  1. Is he involved/keen/making an effort with your children. Sounds like not which is a massive double standard
  2. Why did the previous relationship break down? Is history repeating itself?
Therealjudgejudy · 13/01/2025 23:54

Id stay at home if i were you.

He sounds very manipulative

KhakiGoose · 13/01/2025 23:54

Geppili · 13/01/2025 23:48

Please tell us your partner cooks, does bath, bedtime and laundry for his son, not you! He should be wanting to devote lots of one on one quality time with his son. I wonder how much he did with his previous partner.

Yes, in all fairness I absolutely don’t get involved in LO’s meals or bath times or anything like that. I’ve had that boundary since day one and it’s been received fine.

If you were to ask my OH, he’d tell you his ex did absolutely sod all for their child once she finished breastfeeding. It wasn’t a pleasant separation and they’ve had to get a court order to arrange how his time will be split. I stay as well out of that side of things as I can tbh.

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beAsensible1 · 13/01/2025 23:54

OP it sounds like he wants more than you are able to give and frankly the amount of input and seeing of a 4 year old this early into a relationship is too much.

he is trying to settle you into the stepmother relationship when you are clearly not there or wanting to be there as yet. You do not need to see him over a whole weekend with a small child. Especially when he is getting dads full attention outside of school nursery.

I don’t think dad is being honest about what he wants, which is support in play / parenting and dressing it up as 4yo wants to see you 🙄

don’t fall for it.

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/01/2025 23:55

Are you reading the advice from multiple people to stay away the weekends he has his son? He may be looking for you to help look after his DS but he's not wrong to be prioritising his child when they are together. So don't just have Friday evening seeing friends, actually sleep in your own bed in your own home then nobody will be aware how long you lie in on Sunday morning.

PullTheBricksDown · 13/01/2025 23:56

PrawnAgain · 13/01/2025 23:19

He says he understands to a degree but has essentially told me that unless I can be all in, I should just stay at home when he has his son as he can't cope with the disappointment

I think you should call his bluff on this. See how he reacts to you taking a weekend for yourself.

This. Take him at his word. It's so manipulative. Bet you he is prompting a lot of this into happening, eg 'I wonder when Khaki Goose will be down to play with you? Never mind, she'll probably come soon'. I've seen men do this.

beAsensible1 · 13/01/2025 23:57

Marcipix · 13/01/2025 23:44

Of course he’s too old for a dummy. And a stroller. And a bottle of juice is hideous for his teeth. I’m not sure though that anyone will be grateful to you for pointing it out.

So yes, better for you to have a rest/lunch with friends/whatever, and let DSS have one-on-one time with Daddy.
Not all the time, say three quarters of the time. Blame the peri-menopause or something.

I would certainly ditch the stroller as he obviously has too much energy anyway. I would encourage afternoons in the park climbing and swinging to tire him.
Don’t say it’s to tire him, say he wants to be strong like a superhero.

Most 4 year old children can’t sit quietly for a whole film though. He’s not old enough for that.
Sadly though, I suspect his father, finding him so relentlessly full-on, wants help with him. The rest is just guilt tripping.

this. No shit a 4yo drinking juice and sitting in a stroller is full of beans.

get him on a bike or racing up and down the park.

Pallisers · 13/01/2025 23:57

Step right back. Let him play with and parent his child. Just as he does with you and your children

I'm sorry OP but I suspect after a month or so of this he'll be gone to seek another gullible woman who will do his parenting for him,

Rainbowqueeen · 13/01/2025 23:57

This is too much expectation. He doesn't sound like he thinks of you as a person at all.

He gets a full week including a child free weekend to recharge and you don't. And his response to your reasonable actins is to try and guilt trip you. Not take on board that you also need time to rest and recharge.

I'd end it now. He is definitely coming across as on the hunt for a nanny. The way he speaks about his ex is very disrespectful too. If she did nothing after breastfeeding then that means he is responsible for his child having juice in a bottle, still using a dummy and a buggy. Ick.

Onlyonekenobe · 13/01/2025 23:58

I think YABU: you don’t want to do it, he’s telling you you don’t have to and should stay at home. You’re refusing to do that. You just want to play it by ear: fine, but the child is 4yo. You can’t do that with a 4yo of recently separated parents who’s being shunted between houses all the time. Not fair on him. Also it’s a nightmare fielding questions like when is X coming down? Is X coming for lunch too? Shall we wait for X to play this game? Can I go upstairs and show X this drawing? Not fair on the dad. Which is why he’s said be here or don’t be here, pick one.

Also, everything pp have said: he’s roping you into being the default parent to an overgrown toddler and HELL WOULD FREEZE OVER before I did that for anyone I wasn’t related to. No way Jose.

I don’t think you and your bf are on the same page. How do you even have time for all this after just one year. Why are you putting yourself through all this? Is he really that amazing a man?

WhereYouLeftIt · 13/01/2025 23:59

KhakiGoose · 13/01/2025 23:46

He sees you as a nanny. One thing that men finding themselves single tend to do is look for a woman to do all the domestic stuff.

That’s the other thing, it’s very recently come to light that him and his ex only officially split a few weeks before I started talking to him on a dating site. Specific dates were never discussed but it was heavily implied it was closer to a year earlier than it actually was. He now says they were separated during this time but still living together, which I know does happen while people are figuring out the logistics of splitting up. But it has made me question if he was looking for a replacement mother figure for his DS as much as a girlfriend.

The answer to that question is 'YES'!

Indeed, he was primarily "looking for a replacement mother figure for his DS" and only secondarily for a girlfriend.

"He says he understands to a degree but has essentially told me that unless I can be all in, I should just stay at home when he has his son as he can't cope with the disappointment."
Manipulative fucker, isn't he?

Stay home. Frankly, you sound like you really need to recharge your batteries and you never will if you don't have some genuine down-time. He'll cope. He'll up the pressure on you, but - see it for what it is. The actions of a selfish manipulative man who really you should be ditching. You've wasted a year on him. Don't give him any more of your precious time, he is truly not worth it.

KhakiGoose · 14/01/2025 00:00

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/01/2025 23:55

Are you reading the advice from multiple people to stay away the weekends he has his son? He may be looking for you to help look after his DS but he's not wrong to be prioritising his child when they are together. So don't just have Friday evening seeing friends, actually sleep in your own bed in your own home then nobody will be aware how long you lie in on Sunday morning.

I am and I do think it’s what we all need at this point.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 14/01/2025 00:04

Stay home on Sunday

KhakiGoose · 14/01/2025 00:06

Also it’s a nightmare fielding questions like when is X coming down? Is X coming for lunch too? Shall we wait for X to play this game? Can I go upstairs and show X this drawing? Not fair on the dad. Which is why he’s said be here or don’t be here, pick one.

Thank you for a different perspective, I can totally understand why that would potentially make the situation even more difficult. I suppose it’s because I’d feel horribly guilty completely withdrawing from it at this point, but like you said I’m possibly doing more harm than good by being inconsistent and that’s definitely not what his DS needs at all.

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Snorlaxo · 14/01/2025 00:07

You know that “ds was looking forward to seeing you” is a guilt trip and he really means “I was looking forward to you being here and making my life easier by parenting ds” right?

He shouldn’t be doing this and you should be noting this red flag. Maybe his ex gf were ok with being second mum to his child but if you’re not then that is fine.

I would stay at your house on your free weekends or see him in the evening so you can rest most of the day. The fact that he’s very unsympathetic to your health is another red flag.

poemsandwine · 14/01/2025 00:12

KhakiGoose · 13/01/2025 23:46

He sees you as a nanny. One thing that men finding themselves single tend to do is look for a woman to do all the domestic stuff.

That’s the other thing, it’s very recently come to light that him and his ex only officially split a few weeks before I started talking to him on a dating site. Specific dates were never discussed but it was heavily implied it was closer to a year earlier than it actually was. He now says they were separated during this time but still living together, which I know does happen while people are figuring out the logistics of splitting up. But it has made me question if he was looking for a replacement mother figure for his DS as much as a girlfriend.

Run away.

KhakiGoose · 14/01/2025 00:13

get him on a bike or racing up and down the park

We do get him out as much as possible, when the weather is good enough we can be at the park for hours. It still all falls to me though somehow (ie. I’ll be the one gathering the branches to make the den, helping him across the monkey bars, kicking a ball around with him) - all super lovely, fun things that I enjoy - but OH is often 20 yards behind ‘looking after the buggy’ (playing Pokemon on his phone and having a sneaky vape). I totally get that he needs a break and I want to support him and really do enjoy doing lots of things with his DS, but I just feel like the effort I do make isn’t appreciated when I’m being told essentially it’s not enough.

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Tinseltuttifruitti · 14/01/2025 00:13

I was exhausted just reading your OP and can't imagine giving up those lovely free weekends!

Honestly just one night of being woken up multiple times and having to share a bed with a child that's not mine would be enough for me, sounds hideous.

SD1978 · 14/01/2025 00:14

Nope. He's expecting you to be an instafamily and share responsibility on the weekend for his child- that's not your problem. You've acknowledged you met too quickly and went full on on the beginning- I would not be looking to be responsible for a 4 yr old every weekend I had 'off' from my own kids- I'd be limiting it to 1 night, maybe, and if that wasn't acceptable to him- then the relationship wouldn't be working for me.

pikkumyy77 · 14/01/2025 00:17

KhakiGoose · 14/01/2025 00:13

get him on a bike or racing up and down the park

We do get him out as much as possible, when the weather is good enough we can be at the park for hours. It still all falls to me though somehow (ie. I’ll be the one gathering the branches to make the den, helping him across the monkey bars, kicking a ball around with him) - all super lovely, fun things that I enjoy - but OH is often 20 yards behind ‘looking after the buggy’ (playing Pokemon on his phone and having a sneaky vape). I totally get that he needs a break and I want to support him and really do enjoy doing lots of things with his DS, but I just feel like the effort I do make isn’t appreciated when I’m being told essentially it’s not enough.

He does not need a break. How gullible does he make you? He doesn’t have his child 24/7. He can be his main caregiver for an afternoon and even the evening.

user1492757084 · 14/01/2025 00:21

You are doing what is sustainable for the long term. That is reasonable.
Your DP is unreasonable.
Also letting a kid have a bottle of juice at bedtime will rot his teeth. Persuade DP to swap to water only for drinks after teeth cleaning.

4forksache · 14/01/2025 00:21

Yup pull back completely and explain why. If he can’t or won’t understand or accept that, then it’s not the relationship for you.

TSMWEL · 14/01/2025 00:22

KhakiGoose · 14/01/2025 00:13

get him on a bike or racing up and down the park

We do get him out as much as possible, when the weather is good enough we can be at the park for hours. It still all falls to me though somehow (ie. I’ll be the one gathering the branches to make the den, helping him across the monkey bars, kicking a ball around with him) - all super lovely, fun things that I enjoy - but OH is often 20 yards behind ‘looking after the buggy’ (playing Pokemon on his phone and having a sneaky vape). I totally get that he needs a break and I want to support him and really do enjoy doing lots of things with his DS, but I just feel like the effort I do make isn’t appreciated when I’m being told essentially it’s not enough.

Doesn't he get a break the 50% of the time he doesn't have his DS?