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End of maintenance - what to do?

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Donewithitt · 11/01/2025 22:51

DSS will be 18 this year, so his maintenance payments will stop. Which are around 1.5k per month (not including school fees)
We are pretty sure DSS's mum will KO about it, is there anyway to mitigate this?
DH is planning to write to her at the end of this month to let her know it's stopping, so it doesn't come as a shock and she has 10 months to prepare.
Currently we can afford to continue the payments and plan on diverting the money, minus the school fees into savings for DSS so he'll leave uni with a lump of 50k - which he can access for a house deposit.
Has anyone done anything similar?

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Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:00

ThisPageIsBlank · 12/01/2025 18:56

I thought the plan was Dad would pay uni fees - but, especially if DS will be living away from home like he wants to, there will be many other university expenses? Accommodation to start with…

OP said they are paying his fees, bought him a car and pay some of the running costs and provide him with an allowance (which will help with living expenses). He also works. Presumably his mother should also contribute towards his university costs so perhaps she can fund the accommodation given it appears the rest is already covered by the DSS himself/ his father and step mother? And they are apparently simultaneously going to save £50k for a house deposit for him.

Surely it should be a balance between the two parents? Why is their contribution insufficient? The mother should be supporting him as much as she can herself and will have no expenses any longer in relation to him except visits in holidays.

Apparently he splits his time equally between his parents' homes so presumably he'll continue to do that during university holidays, so it's hard to see a case for the father to continue to pay money to the mother's to fund the DSS's living expenses in this situation as she's no longer housing him/ paying for anything to support him that the father and step mother need to contribute towards.

I am disappointed to see some of the attitudes on this thread. I think the amount of CMS required by law is an insulting pittance and not enforced properly but from OP's posts she and her husband have gone far above this and intend to continue to do so, helping her DSS very generously. Why the mother feels entitled to continue to receive money from them in the above circumstances is a mystery to me so please can somebody arguing for this explain the reasoning?

As a lone parent raising my children with no involvement from the other parent I think this type of attitude - that somehow this mother should continue to receive money when she has no additional expenses to fund for DSS - quite shocking and it undermines all of the totally valid arguments about deadbeat fathers who do not pay anywhere near what they should, or nothing.

Maintenance is to fund the expenses of raising the child, not to fund the other parent. It should be much higher than the CMS amounts, and equate to 50% of the cost of raising and housing a child. But this child has been raised (with very reasonable contributions to the expenses involved, it seems) and is now an adult so there's no further case for maintenance, surely?

Hmm…you’ve completely quoted me out of context there you know?

I was replying to a pp who said that SS’s dad was providing ‘everything he needed for uni’ and that his mum only needed to cover 50% of the holidays. I merely pointed out that, if SS doesn’t live at home for uni as seems to be the current plan, that is not an accurate reflection of the situation for either parent.

At no point did I suggest dad should pay for everything. In fact I don’t think he should.

I quoted the most relevant part of pp’s post in my reply to her to make my meaning very clear, but you cut that out above for some reason.

You really need to check you’re reading and understanding people properly before you take umbrage at what they say.

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:03

PortiasBiscuit · 11/01/2025 22:54

Christ , are you planning to cut the kids you actually parent off without a penny on their 18th birthday?

Did you even read the OP?

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:04

Codlingmoths · 11/01/2025 23:01

So you’d just cut him off without a penny early in the school year? Wow.

Do people actually read the whole OP of just start salivating and leap into write?

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:07

Donewithitt · 12/01/2025 07:25

I'm curious - for everyone who thinks we should continue to pay. What do they receive in these circumstances?

18 year old
Allowance 500 per month
Uni fees paid
Car + fuel card 50 per month + insurance
50/50 home between mum and ours
1 overseas holiday per year - optional if he wants to bring friend / GF we pay hotel room and 1 flight

Plus a big chunk of cash towards a house upon graduation

I think people didn't realise you were still covering all those things. I assumed you would be because you said you would save the £1500 into a savings plan and I couldn't see you doing that whilst meanwhile watching him struggle but many people appear not to think very laterally and desperately want to assume the worst. Why? I have no idea.

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:08

HPandthelastwish · 12/01/2025 07:41

The support you give him directly is great however that doesn't change the fact that mum has to maintain a larger home than she needs for when he goes back and forth to uni and anytime he needs to return home afterwards and despite him not being there you should contribute, unless you are happy for her to downsize and for DC to move in with you full-time when he is not at uni.

You seem to have plenty of money so up his allowance to £1000 a month and he can pay mum housekeeping directly

OP is surest paying uni fees and allowance meaning mum doesn't have to. I'm pretty sure mum can cover some stuff.

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:11

She has no further expenses relating to DSS once he goes to university beyond him stay with her for 50% of the holidays, and the other half with his father.

How do you work that out?
Uni is very expensive even excluding fees when you’re living away from home. Maybe she’ll want to help him out with the costs? I think most parents do if they can.
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2024/05/martin-lewis-student-living-loans-campaign/

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 21:16

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Shame. She makes some excellent points.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 21:23

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:11

She has no further expenses relating to DSS once he goes to university beyond him stay with her for 50% of the holidays, and the other half with his father.

How do you work that out?
Uni is very expensive even excluding fees when you’re living away from home. Maybe she’ll want to help him out with the costs? I think most parents do if they can.
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2024/05/martin-lewis-student-living-loans-campaign/

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She won’t have any costs that his father will need to contribute to though. He’s already doing that, and as holidays are spent 50/50 with each parent the costs there cancel each other out. A poster upthread made a very good point about the CMS no longer being provided to the ex directly. If she will struggle without it, it indicates she’s been misspending it. Her own living circumstances are not her ex’s responsibility.

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:32

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 21:23

She won’t have any costs that his father will need to contribute to though. He’s already doing that, and as holidays are spent 50/50 with each parent the costs there cancel each other out. A poster upthread made a very good point about the CMS no longer being provided to the ex directly. If she will struggle without it, it indicates she’s been misspending it. Her own living circumstances are not her ex’s responsibility.

Again, I didn’t say her ex should be subsidising her.
But to say that her only costs regarding her 18 year old DS are covering 50% of his holiday time isn’t very realistic. That’s my point.
I mean, I wish! I have 3 teens 😅

Pamelaaaaarrr · 12/01/2025 21:33

How do you work that out?
Uni is very expensive even excluding fees when you’re living away from home. Maybe she’ll want to help him out with the costs? I think most parents do if they can.

And that's up to her @Cheerioshesaid if she wants to. It's not on the father to hand her money to support her adult son.

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:33

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:11

She has no further expenses relating to DSS once he goes to university beyond him stay with her for 50% of the holidays, and the other half with his father.

How do you work that out?
Uni is very expensive even excluding fees when you’re living away from home. Maybe she’ll want to help him out with the costs? I think most parents do if they can.
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2024/05/martin-lewis-student-living-loans-campaign/

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Dad is paying fees, £500 per month allowance, car and petrol.

Surely the mum can cover something. If she wants more money from dad to pay for more uni stuff then basically it's just dad paying

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:39

Pamelaaaaarrr · 12/01/2025 21:33

How do you work that out?
Uni is very expensive even excluding fees when you’re living away from home. Maybe she’ll want to help him out with the costs? I think most parents do if they can.

And that's up to her @Cheerioshesaid if she wants to. It's not on the father to hand her money to support her adult son.

I NEVER SAID HE SHOULD!!!

Seriously, getting tired of this 😅

I pointed out that the mother has more expense that people say. People are trying to downplay her contribution.

That is all I said.

I think parents should split costs.

I do not think dad should pay for everything.

Cheerioshesaid · 12/01/2025 21:41

changecandles · 12/01/2025 21:33

Dad is paying fees, £500 per month allowance, car and petrol.

Surely the mum can cover something. If she wants more money from dad to pay for more uni stuff then basically it's just dad paying

Okay, I officially give up.

Stop skimming, people.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 22:23

BestLife82 · 12/01/2025 20:25

What, with £50k? 😂

To normal people, it is pretty obvious that the mother is the deadbeat here.

Why on earth would you say that ? OP has said next to nothing about her circumstance or contribution.

Donewithitt · 12/01/2025 22:27

Loads of assumptions on here ! And not a single poster able to suggest what support they get for their adult children!

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BestLife82 · 12/01/2025 22:30

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 22:23

Why on earth would you say that ? OP has said next to nothing about her circumstance or contribution.

The fact she needed so much money from her ex for years despite childcare being 50/50 plus the suggestion she will kick off when she loses it suggests she's been a deadbeat for a long time.

Thursdaygirl · 12/01/2025 22:38

ttcat37 · 12/01/2025 09:03

At least he’s old enough to understand that his father left him high and dry at 18.

Read the thread, FFS!

ThisPageIsBlank · 12/01/2025 23:08

Donewithitt · 12/01/2025 22:27

Loads of assumptions on here ! And not a single poster able to suggest what support they get for their adult children!

I presume that is because the answer would be "nothing"! Any support at that point goes to the adult child directly, as you are intending.

OneLuckyHare · 13/01/2025 07:10

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MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 13/01/2025 07:56

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/01/2025 09:59

its useful to read all the OPs posts on threads before posting

So useful adding bitchy comments to threads; hope it makes you feel better

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/01/2025 08:37

Rosscameasdoody · 12/01/2025 22:23

Why on earth would you say that ? OP has said next to nothing about her circumstance or contribution.

I have the same question.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2025 08:51

Thursdaygirl · 12/01/2025 22:38

Read the thread, FFS!

I guarantee you, they have !!

Fluffypuppy1 · 13/01/2025 08:58

BestLife82 · 12/01/2025 22:30

The fact she needed so much money from her ex for years despite childcare being 50/50 plus the suggestion she will kick off when she loses it suggests she's been a deadbeat for a long time.

How many years? It’s not mentioned in any of OP’s posts at all. It could be many years, or it also could be that the parents only split up a couple of years ago.

Collaborate · 13/01/2025 09:11

Donewithitt · 12/01/2025 22:27

Loads of assumptions on here ! And not a single poster able to suggest what support they get for their adult children!

There's been a hugely ill-informed pile-on in this thread. Not helped I must say by the fact that you're not in the UK so we can't tell what your legal obligations are.

Provided you are complying with the father's legal obligations the support you propose post-18 seems very much on the generous side. In the UK the child would come to their own arrangement with the parents after they finish secondary education, and it seems like that is what has happened here.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2025 09:11

@BestLife82 Depends on the circumstances, what the terms of the separation were, whether she was able to work etc. The 50/50 split sounds like a recent thing as he is older and can decide for himself. OP says ‘He stays between ours and his mum's at the min’. And something very few posters have considered is that OP is in Australia. If 1.5k refers to Australian dollars, that’s equivalent to approximately £760 sterling. So really not excessive, at all, and definitely not suggestive of a deadbeat mum. Without fuller background details that’s a really unfair assumption.

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