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DP suddenly broke - can I grumble?

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Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:38

My DP, formerly a somewhat high-earning professional who one would generously consider middle aged, is broke.

This is 100% self-inflicted.

He has started an MBA ( 20 years older than most on the course) and cut his work to one day consulting a week.

And now we cannot go out for dinner anymore.

DP is in finance (like me) and beyond the age where extra letters after his name would propel him towards the C-suite. He will most likely enjoy his course then return to his former director level job or similar with impressive new Powerpoint skills.

But I thought his career break was a nice idea, until he told me that he is broke.

I was not sure this was true, so we looked at his budget. He's broke.

He has enough savings to fund his course, pay his mortgage, pay his nanny, buy food for himself and the kids and run the car. And also to keep paying his non-mortgaged ex wife her court-ordered absolutely flabbergasting monthly maintenance as well as the substantial list of extras the exw, I just learned, is billing DP for monthly.

These comprise: children's clothes, clubs, extra curricular sports, holiday camps, school uniforms, tuition, therapists, school dinners, mobile phone, pocket money, horse riding, birthday parties, football shoes and LEGO.

They have the children 50-50. The exw works part time but does not need to and does not pay for childcare because of generous parents. The 50-50 was agreed by exw after fantabulous maintenance was secured. Lol.

I don't live with DP so am not directly affected by his brokeness exactly.

But we do share a life and a lifestyle. And pre-brokeness it was a nice one. Dinners out a couple of times a month. A foreign holiday together once a year. Taking both sets of kids to plays and musicals at weekends. We always went Dutch. I always knew the exw was richer than me because she worked very hard in court for several months to prove her womb was golden and I worked in offices for 25 years so as not to rely on an ex husband, but I didn't mind as my lifestyle was the same as before I met DP.

But now DP is broke it is going to cost me.

When I fancy sharing a bottle of plonk and fish and chips at home, I will have to buy it.

When we have mutual friends over for a meal, I will have to buy the food.

When my child is in a play and wants DP and his kids to come, I will be buying all five tickets.

This is probably an AIBU but I put it on step parents because I am a step parent in all but living arrangement - DP and I shift nomadically between our two homes depending on which kids we have when.

And yet when it comes to having a say on finances, I am feeling nothing like a partner and very like a girlfriend who may have just sleepwalked into buying meals for a geriatric student who is paying for his exw to summer in Tuscany.

I am asking myself whether:

I should've been consulted ahead of the MBA decision with fully discussing the finances?

I should have realised he was paying over the odds for child stuff?

I should ask DP to review this now or to vary his maintenance order in court? (He will say the exw will respond by pulling the kids out of activities and not buying them shoes.)

I should resign as quasi step parent on the basis I should not have responsibility for DP's kids when I have such little agency over how we live our joint lives?

I should merrily commit all my disposable income to myself and get a season ticket to Champneys, leaving DP at home to eat Pot Noodle?

I should join his student lifestyle, learn to love Pot Noodle again and clear my mortgage early? (Quite like thiis idea actually, lemons into lemonade.)

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RandomMess · 13/11/2024 19:40

After a year he can stop paying court ordered maintenance and revert to CMS especially if his earnings have dropped.

RandomMess · 13/11/2024 19:41

He stops the maintenance and pays for what he wants the DC to have which he may have to cut back on it seems.

NeedSomeComfy · 13/11/2024 19:41

Can he stop the MBA? Does he see a problem with being broke or is it mainly you who is upset?

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:42

NeedSomeComfy · 13/11/2024 19:41

Can he stop the MBA? Does he see a problem with being broke or is it mainly you who is upset?

He is grumbling a lot about not being able to afford things - as if someone did this to him!

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yeesh · 13/11/2024 19:43

Well he’s clearly not broke if he’s paying for a nanny & all the other stuff he doesn’t need to. He is just choosing not to spend money doing things with you

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:43

RandomMess · 13/11/2024 19:40

After a year he can stop paying court ordered maintenance and revert to CMS especially if his earnings have dropped.

Oh that is interesting. Tell me more. I have no idea how maintenance works, having never requested or received it.

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Spondoolie · 13/11/2024 19:44

You’re brave!

catin8oots · 13/11/2024 19:45

*prove her womb was golden

Yeah stopped when I read this gem

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:45

yeesh · 13/11/2024 19:43

Well he’s clearly not broke if he’s paying for a nanny & all the other stuff he doesn’t need to. He is just choosing not to spend money doing things with you

It is self inflicted.

He needs a nanny so someone looks after his children before he gets home from work (or hayooniversity now). One is disabled and can't go to a childminder.

He is choosing to cower his to his ex wife and make me bear the brunt, I think.
I am about to book a weekend away somewhere luxurious.He can enjoy the pictures I send him every two hours.

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Mipil · 13/11/2024 19:50

Hmm… he could go to CMS and stop paying for all the extras but it’s a pretty shitty thing to do to his DC if it impacts them financially so he can take a vanity MBA and enjoy a champagne (and fish and chips) lifestyle with you. I think I would probably lose respect for him if he did that and I were you.

YellowRoom · 13/11/2024 19:50

I appreciate you will lose out on doing activities together but no way would i sub DP. An annual holiday, a few nice meals etc sounds like a drop in the ocean compared to what he's spending overall. He needs to take some action - set some boundaries with ex and go back to work.

JasonTindallsTan · 13/11/2024 19:51

So you want him to spend less on his kids so he can go halfers at the chippy with you?

Yeah. I’m sure that will go down a storm. Sounds like he’s a decent dad and is providing for his children, don’t be the person to tell him that you want him to stop that so he can spend more money on doing things with you. If he’s a good bloke you won’t last much longer in his life after a request like that.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 13/11/2024 19:52

Honestly I would be more worried about the future. When someone who would "generously" be considered middle aged essentially quits work to be a student, it is often because they have had enough of work and don't plan to ever go back to the full time grind. If he can't make a good living from consulting work, but has a very expensive lifestyle to fund, he may increasingly lean on you and your earnings.

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:53

catin8oots · 13/11/2024 19:45

*prove her womb was golden

Yeah stopped when I read this gem

Sorry. I get annoyed. This woman attended a highly selective school and an excellent university. She was strategically brilliant in securing an amazing divorce settlement. One rarely encounters such smart people. Relying on one's motherhood for livelihood is fine if its all you have. I couldn't fathom this one.

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TheShellBeach · 13/11/2024 19:53

He isn't actually broke at all, OP.

I know what being broke is like.

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:54

TheYearOfSmallThings · 13/11/2024 19:52

Honestly I would be more worried about the future. When someone who would "generously" be considered middle aged essentially quits work to be a student, it is often because they have had enough of work and don't plan to ever go back to the full time grind. If he can't make a good living from consulting work, but has a very expensive lifestyle to fund, he may increasingly lean on you and your earnings.

I will not let him lean on me financially.

He can solve his own problems.

I am not going to ask him to give his exw or the kids less.

I am stumped as to what to ask for really.

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Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:56

TheShellBeach · 13/11/2024 19:53

He isn't actually broke at all, OP.

I know what being broke is like.

You're absolutely right.

This is self-inflicted income deprivation.

I have been properly broke too and was absolutely brassic until about age 28. I'd never be able fund an MBA even after working for more than two decades full time. Whenever I save anything it flies out the window on house repairs and I have a good salary. The cost of living has been insane for years.

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MillyMichaelson · 13/11/2024 19:57

What could you ask for?

He's doing nothing wrong; he's trying to better himself while still paying over the odds for his children, which is better than 99% of men on here manage.

If your lifestyles don't match now then...that's up to you really. But it's pretty shitty to come on here and look at ways he can pay less maintenance for his kids so that you can maintain your nice dinners and only buy 2.5 concert tickets at a time.

Talulahalula · 13/11/2024 19:58

yeesh · 13/11/2024 19:43

Well he’s clearly not broke if he’s paying for a nanny & all the other stuff he doesn’t need to. He is just choosing not to spend money doing things with you

Yes, that is what I was going to say. The list of things he pays for is not the sign of a man who is broke. I would love to fund myself a Masters and four days a week to do it in!

Playingintheshadow · 13/11/2024 19:58

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:54

I will not let him lean on me financially.

He can solve his own problems.

I am not going to ask him to give his exw or the kids less.

I am stumped as to what to ask for really.

How long is the MBA for? One year? Can't he go back to work in May next year when term is coming to an end? Presumably he could write up his dissertation while working? Plenty of people do.

I don't know why he didn't just take it on part-time!

He's not broke. Sounds like your lifestyle is more important to you than he is!

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:58

Mipil · 13/11/2024 19:50

Hmm… he could go to CMS and stop paying for all the extras but it’s a pretty shitty thing to do to his DC if it impacts them financially so he can take a vanity MBA and enjoy a champagne (and fish and chips) lifestyle with you. I think I would probably lose respect for him if he did that and I were you.

Not champagne. Tesco Malbec. I'm not asking him to buy me a pony. Just to be able to go to the cinema or Nando's!

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Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:59

Talulahalula · 13/11/2024 19:58

Yes, that is what I was going to say. The list of things he pays for is not the sign of a man who is broke. I would love to fund myself a Masters and four days a week to do it in!

Yes I would love that too.

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Quitelikeit · 13/11/2024 20:00

This sounds depressing

Why doesn’t he go back to court?

Are you saying the court ordered spousal maintenance? If so surely not indefinitely?

And why pay child maintenance for 50/50 custody?

Has he got a spine?

Lollymolly12 · 13/11/2024 20:02

Doesn’t sound like he is broke, sounds like he is choosing not to spend money on your joint activities, or assuming that you will subsidise his lifestyle whilst he takes a big drop in income (which you absolutely should not do if he asks).

I think you should do this option: I should resign as quasi step parent on the basis I should not have responsibility for DP's kids when I have such little agency over how we live our joint lives?

Also, you do seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder about his ex. You’ve mentioned that one of their DCs is disabled and you BF (tbh it doesn’t sound like a partnership) is clearly a VERY high earner. I’d almost guarantee that she’s been a she’s put her carer on hold to be an unpaid carer whilst they were together, whilst his carer clearly flourished. Under those circumstances it’s quite normal for spousal maintenance/ a very high division of the assets to go to the one on the lower income, even with shared care.

Anonym00se · 13/11/2024 20:02

He’s not broke, he sounds minted! It just sounds like he’s handing it all over to his ExW.

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