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DP suddenly broke - can I grumble?

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Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:38

My DP, formerly a somewhat high-earning professional who one would generously consider middle aged, is broke.

This is 100% self-inflicted.

He has started an MBA ( 20 years older than most on the course) and cut his work to one day consulting a week.

And now we cannot go out for dinner anymore.

DP is in finance (like me) and beyond the age where extra letters after his name would propel him towards the C-suite. He will most likely enjoy his course then return to his former director level job or similar with impressive new Powerpoint skills.

But I thought his career break was a nice idea, until he told me that he is broke.

I was not sure this was true, so we looked at his budget. He's broke.

He has enough savings to fund his course, pay his mortgage, pay his nanny, buy food for himself and the kids and run the car. And also to keep paying his non-mortgaged ex wife her court-ordered absolutely flabbergasting monthly maintenance as well as the substantial list of extras the exw, I just learned, is billing DP for monthly.

These comprise: children's clothes, clubs, extra curricular sports, holiday camps, school uniforms, tuition, therapists, school dinners, mobile phone, pocket money, horse riding, birthday parties, football shoes and LEGO.

They have the children 50-50. The exw works part time but does not need to and does not pay for childcare because of generous parents. The 50-50 was agreed by exw after fantabulous maintenance was secured. Lol.

I don't live with DP so am not directly affected by his brokeness exactly.

But we do share a life and a lifestyle. And pre-brokeness it was a nice one. Dinners out a couple of times a month. A foreign holiday together once a year. Taking both sets of kids to plays and musicals at weekends. We always went Dutch. I always knew the exw was richer than me because she worked very hard in court for several months to prove her womb was golden and I worked in offices for 25 years so as not to rely on an ex husband, but I didn't mind as my lifestyle was the same as before I met DP.

But now DP is broke it is going to cost me.

When I fancy sharing a bottle of plonk and fish and chips at home, I will have to buy it.

When we have mutual friends over for a meal, I will have to buy the food.

When my child is in a play and wants DP and his kids to come, I will be buying all five tickets.

This is probably an AIBU but I put it on step parents because I am a step parent in all but living arrangement - DP and I shift nomadically between our two homes depending on which kids we have when.

And yet when it comes to having a say on finances, I am feeling nothing like a partner and very like a girlfriend who may have just sleepwalked into buying meals for a geriatric student who is paying for his exw to summer in Tuscany.

I am asking myself whether:

I should've been consulted ahead of the MBA decision with fully discussing the finances?

I should have realised he was paying over the odds for child stuff?

I should ask DP to review this now or to vary his maintenance order in court? (He will say the exw will respond by pulling the kids out of activities and not buying them shoes.)

I should resign as quasi step parent on the basis I should not have responsibility for DP's kids when I have such little agency over how we live our joint lives?

I should merrily commit all my disposable income to myself and get a season ticket to Champneys, leaving DP at home to eat Pot Noodle?

I should join his student lifestyle, learn to love Pot Noodle again and clear my mortgage early? (Quite like thiis idea actually, lemons into lemonade.)

OP posts:
Timetoread · 13/11/2024 20:03

Do you even love him?

Talulahalula · 13/11/2024 20:03

Then.be wise. Save your money for yourself and don’t spend it on the nice meals and wine he is not contributing to. And then maybe find yourself a boyfriend who can share these things with you 🤷🏻‍♀️
Don’t get involved in what he does or does not pay for his DC or what his ex does or does not get, it’s not a good look and life is too short.

HoppityBun · 13/11/2024 20:03

He’s doing an MBA. Just to emphasise, that’s a Masters in Business Administration. And he’s in finance. What you can ask of him is that he sorts himself out, using the skills he’s got and the skills he’s learning. Get him to give you a business proposal in 14 days for your joint financial future.

GiraffeTree · 13/11/2024 20:03

I'd carry on doing nice things for yourself and cheap things with him. Don't sub him or his kids. Let him decide whether to bin the MBA or reduce the payments to ex or live very frugally and not be able to join you in doing stuff. Is it only for a year?

Alcardo · 13/11/2024 20:03

He doesn't need four days a week for his MBA, not even full time. He should do min three and I imagine he could manage the work fine.

GiraffeTree · 13/11/2024 20:04

Alcardo · 13/11/2024 20:03

He doesn't need four days a week for his MBA, not even full time. He should do min three and I imagine he could manage the work fine.

This is a fair point. Could he increase his working days from one to two and double his income?

Meowingtwice · 13/11/2024 20:05

I do like your writing style.

If someone keeps grumbling about the consequences of decisions they made knowingly, yes that's very annoying.

Why did he leave to do the MBA? Maybe he hated his job.

I wouldn't be annoyed if it was planned and explained, if he hates his job and is planning a career change. However to just surprise you with wo is me now I have no money, yup I'd be annoyed. And are you also saying now the kids won't have holiday clubs? If so I hope he's figured out what they'll do.

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 20:05

What would you talk to him about in Nando’s, when you hold everything about him in contempt?

TeenGreenBottles · 13/11/2024 20:06

What he pays for his kids and gives his ex in maintenance is none of your business.

Him going part time to be a student? Your business if you share finances but it looks like you're not at that stage yet. So I think your only decision is whether your relationship is worth more than money, or if the end of jointly funded fancy meals out means you want to end it.

There's no way he should be cutting down on stuff for his kids so he can spend more on you/joint activities with you.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 13/11/2024 20:06

He’s not broke really

be shit to stop the kids activities though

he could afford it all if he went back to work surely 🤣

I wouldn’t want this life either if I was you op

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 13/11/2024 20:07

It doesn't sound as though you like him very much? Sounds more like you like having someone to do activities with and he enjoyed the same things as you & could afford it so all was quite convenient.

You talk disparagingly about the MBA, which presumably has been a long held ambition if it's not for career advancement. You also sound as though 'paying over the odds' for kids stuff is something you lose some respect for him over?

Then you sound almost gloating at the idea of going somewhere luxurious and rubbing it in his face that he's not there.

I think you should use this as a wake up call that it's not the right relationship for you.

Strictlymad · 13/11/2024 20:07

He’s not broke, he is adequately paying his way without luxuries which is more than many in the population who are choosing between food and heating. He is supporting his kids the best he can over and above which is commendable, and makes him a much better dad than many and is nothing to do with the ex. He is prioritising his kids over dinners out with you as he should.

Meowingtwice · 13/11/2024 20:08

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 13/11/2024 20:07

It doesn't sound as though you like him very much? Sounds more like you like having someone to do activities with and he enjoyed the same things as you & could afford it so all was quite convenient.

You talk disparagingly about the MBA, which presumably has been a long held ambition if it's not for career advancement. You also sound as though 'paying over the odds' for kids stuff is something you lose some respect for him over?

Then you sound almost gloating at the idea of going somewhere luxurious and rubbing it in his face that he's not there.

I think you should use this as a wake up call that it's not the right relationship for you.

I think when anyone's upset about something they don't give their partner a glowing review do they?

GOODCAT · 13/11/2024 20:09

You have to decide whether giving up on your joint social life is worth it while he is doing his MBA.

If it is just a year, you may be able to live with it. You could have a year of doing your own thing while he spends his time studying and you meet up for beans on toast and a walk.

If that doesn't work for you, split up.

His only options are stop the MBA or carry on as he is, with the risk you don't want to put your life on hold while he does this.

Neither of you is wrong.

StormingNorman · 13/11/2024 20:10

Did you mean to be so scathing towards your partner and his ex? You’re not giving a good account of yourself.

Pinkissmart · 13/11/2024 20:10

RandomMess · 13/11/2024 19:40

After a year he can stop paying court ordered maintenance and revert to CMS especially if his earnings have dropped.

What a shitty thing to do

Meowingtwice · 13/11/2024 20:10

GOODCAT · 13/11/2024 20:09

You have to decide whether giving up on your joint social life is worth it while he is doing his MBA.

If it is just a year, you may be able to live with it. You could have a year of doing your own thing while he spends his time studying and you meet up for beans on toast and a walk.

If that doesn't work for you, split up.

His only options are stop the MBA or carry on as he is, with the risk you don't want to put your life on hold while he does this.

Neither of you is wrong.

I like this! Also there are nice things you can do that aren't expensive like visit art galleries, go for walks, have coffee out but lunch at home, actually cook, films etc..

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 20:11

StormingNorman · 13/11/2024 20:10

Did you mean to be so scathing towards your partner and his ex? You’re not giving a good account of yourself.

Obviously she did 🤣

Coconutter24 · 13/11/2024 20:11

Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:58

Not champagne. Tesco Malbec. I'm not asking him to buy me a pony. Just to be able to go to the cinema or Nando's!

Can you not give him the occasional treat if you want to go somewhere he can’t afford?

StormingNorman · 13/11/2024 20:12

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 20:11

Obviously she did 🤣

I wondered if she thought she was being funny. It just came across as really bitchy.

TitusMoan · 13/11/2024 20:12

How long had he been divorced before he started going out with you? Seems reasonable that he is paying for his children before you, really…

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 20:13

Coconutter24 · 13/11/2024 20:11

Can you not give him the occasional treat if you want to go somewhere he can’t afford?

That’s the crux of the issue, she doesn’t want to be doing one-sided ‘treating’ of her wealthy boyfriend. I wouldn’t either!

Codlingmoths · 13/11/2024 20:13

Easy tiger for some posters. Nobody is
suggesting he drop to cms, but it does seem he could pay less. I wouldn’t fund holidays for a partner who doesn’t have any cash to put into our holidays because he sends it to his ex who is having lovely holidays. Consequences of his choice to study may affect him and his children, that’s how parenting works - do they do lots of hobbies and could drop one… although he won’t need to drop the extra if he drops a chunk of the maintenance, since he has them 50/50.

StopStartStop · 13/11/2024 20:15

Walk away. His priorities are clear, and don't include you.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 13/11/2024 20:22

@Meowingtwice

I think when anyone's upset about something they don't give their partner a glowing review do they?

But it's the fact that she's so annoyed about him choosing to fund the MBA & cut back on entertainment spend that is a bit odd. She has no interest in supporting him doing something he wants.