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DP suddenly broke - can I grumble?

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Stepmumptsd · 13/11/2024 19:38

My DP, formerly a somewhat high-earning professional who one would generously consider middle aged, is broke.

This is 100% self-inflicted.

He has started an MBA ( 20 years older than most on the course) and cut his work to one day consulting a week.

And now we cannot go out for dinner anymore.

DP is in finance (like me) and beyond the age where extra letters after his name would propel him towards the C-suite. He will most likely enjoy his course then return to his former director level job or similar with impressive new Powerpoint skills.

But I thought his career break was a nice idea, until he told me that he is broke.

I was not sure this was true, so we looked at his budget. He's broke.

He has enough savings to fund his course, pay his mortgage, pay his nanny, buy food for himself and the kids and run the car. And also to keep paying his non-mortgaged ex wife her court-ordered absolutely flabbergasting monthly maintenance as well as the substantial list of extras the exw, I just learned, is billing DP for monthly.

These comprise: children's clothes, clubs, extra curricular sports, holiday camps, school uniforms, tuition, therapists, school dinners, mobile phone, pocket money, horse riding, birthday parties, football shoes and LEGO.

They have the children 50-50. The exw works part time but does not need to and does not pay for childcare because of generous parents. The 50-50 was agreed by exw after fantabulous maintenance was secured. Lol.

I don't live with DP so am not directly affected by his brokeness exactly.

But we do share a life and a lifestyle. And pre-brokeness it was a nice one. Dinners out a couple of times a month. A foreign holiday together once a year. Taking both sets of kids to plays and musicals at weekends. We always went Dutch. I always knew the exw was richer than me because she worked very hard in court for several months to prove her womb was golden and I worked in offices for 25 years so as not to rely on an ex husband, but I didn't mind as my lifestyle was the same as before I met DP.

But now DP is broke it is going to cost me.

When I fancy sharing a bottle of plonk and fish and chips at home, I will have to buy it.

When we have mutual friends over for a meal, I will have to buy the food.

When my child is in a play and wants DP and his kids to come, I will be buying all five tickets.

This is probably an AIBU but I put it on step parents because I am a step parent in all but living arrangement - DP and I shift nomadically between our two homes depending on which kids we have when.

And yet when it comes to having a say on finances, I am feeling nothing like a partner and very like a girlfriend who may have just sleepwalked into buying meals for a geriatric student who is paying for his exw to summer in Tuscany.

I am asking myself whether:

I should've been consulted ahead of the MBA decision with fully discussing the finances?

I should have realised he was paying over the odds for child stuff?

I should ask DP to review this now or to vary his maintenance order in court? (He will say the exw will respond by pulling the kids out of activities and not buying them shoes.)

I should resign as quasi step parent on the basis I should not have responsibility for DP's kids when I have such little agency over how we live our joint lives?

I should merrily commit all my disposable income to myself and get a season ticket to Champneys, leaving DP at home to eat Pot Noodle?

I should join his student lifestyle, learn to love Pot Noodle again and clear my mortgage early? (Quite like thiis idea actually, lemons into lemonade.)

OP posts:
MoodEnhancer · 13/11/2024 20:24

I know you won’t care what a stranger online says, but your comments about his ex-wife are vile.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 13/11/2024 20:24

RandomMess · 13/11/2024 19:40

After a year he can stop paying court ordered maintenance and revert to CMS especially if his earnings have dropped.

Yes that's how my ex fucked me over partly due to the machinations of the cunt he tried to shack up with. Our DC are still in counselling.

OP, with respect, so far because I haven't read the rest of the threads and any further posts you or anyone else has made. It isn't any of your business what financial arrangements he made to ensure his former family unit was secure. But the indulgent Masters is. And that sends the strongest message that you are not a partner. I'm sure later you will disclose how long you have been together. I hope for your sake not long, so you can walk away.

Pinkissmart · 13/11/2024 20:26

Look, obviously your relationship isn’t a committed / love match.
You want companionship, and went into it thinking it was going to look a certain way.

He’s not committed enough to talk it through with you ( or realised that you were only in it for the fun stuff). You’re not committed enough to accept the change for a year.

If your heart isn’t in it, why not just leave and find someone who has more spare money?

BlastedPimples · 13/11/2024 20:28

Maybe he's avoiding spending money and time with you.

Completelyjo · 13/11/2024 20:28

A man who uses savings in order to ensure he continues to pay the same levels of maintenance during a year of reduced income, what a prick.

I should have realised he was paying over the odds for child stuff?

How on earth do you pay over the odds for your own children?

downwindofyou · 13/11/2024 20:30

JasonTindallsTan · 13/11/2024 19:51

So you want him to spend less on his kids so he can go halfers at the chippy with you?

Yeah. I’m sure that will go down a storm. Sounds like he’s a decent dad and is providing for his children, don’t be the person to tell him that you want him to stop that so he can spend more money on doing things with you. If he’s a good bloke you won’t last much longer in his life after a request like that.

I would respect a man far more if he had boundaries with his ex so that these expenses were shared and not all paid for by him.

Dc don't need all the things he is paying for. And certainly not if he is the only one paying.

Being a mug and being a good father are two separate things. Otherwise are you suggesting that parents who don't provide all the erroneous things like multiple sports and clubs and camps and horses are bad parents?

FloatyBoaty · 13/11/2024 20:32

He isn’t “paying over the odds” for his children. He’s paying for his children.

He isn’t broke. He’s made a choice not to spend the money he has, on things that you want him to. (Ie. He’s using it to fund his MBA)

You are HORRIBLE about his ex wife.

Was there overlap between the two of you, by any chance?

TylerD · 13/11/2024 20:33

Tbh OP, you sound like a gold-digger. Outside of his money, and the lifestyle it affords you, you don't seem to have any love, affection, enthusiasm, or interest in him.

Artistbythewater · 13/11/2024 20:33

Your answer is to end this relationship, it’s falling very short of what you need or want. It has no future at all, given you don’t want to invest and why should you? He is just so weak, unattractive and indulgent.

With two children to support what is he doing? I wouldn’t want to pay for everything. So I would be out.

healthybychristmas · 13/11/2024 20:37

Why on earth is he doing a business course when he has such a poor business brain? It's all about the money FFS! Can't he see he has made himself broke at a vital point in his career?

downwindofyou · 13/11/2024 20:37

TylerD · 13/11/2024 20:33

Tbh OP, you sound like a gold-digger. Outside of his money, and the lifestyle it affords you, you don't seem to have any love, affection, enthusiasm, or interest in him.

Oh hush. Gold diggers don't have their own careers and pay for everything themselves. Even when dp earned they shared costs. Nothing about the OP sounds like a gold digger

She VERY clearly is saying she is not happy that he makes financial decisions without involving her even though they affect her and she has to listen to his constant grumbling .

She's got all the negatives of being a partner without the advantages of being involved in decision making. This MBA is a folly

downwindofyou · 13/11/2024 20:39

FloatyBoaty · 13/11/2024 20:32

He isn’t “paying over the odds” for his children. He’s paying for his children.

He isn’t broke. He’s made a choice not to spend the money he has, on things that you want him to. (Ie. He’s using it to fund his MBA)

You are HORRIBLE about his ex wife.

Was there overlap between the two of you, by any chance?

Yes he is paying EVERYTHING for his dc regardless of having them 50:50. The ex sounds awful

Completelyjo · 13/11/2024 20:39

healthybychristmas · 13/11/2024 20:37

Why on earth is he doing a business course when he has such a poor business brain? It's all about the money FFS! Can't he see he has made himself broke at a vital point in his career?

Choosing to take a year off for education isn’t making yourself broke or a poor decision. He has more than enough money to cover everything he needs to for the year from savings, he’s clearly a high earner with a good saving rate and will be fine.

healthybychristmas · 13/11/2024 20:40

You know what, he has thought oh dear I'm going to be broke, never mind, OP can pay for things.

healthybychristmas · 13/11/2024 20:40

Choosing to do an MBA at his age and earning a 20% salary to do so is a bad business decision. She has said that he won't improve his job prospect as a result.

Playingintheshadow · 13/11/2024 20:43

TitusMoan · 13/11/2024 20:12

How long had he been divorced before he started going out with you? Seems reasonable that he is paying for his children before you, really…

What is the ex paying for the children?

Startinganew32 · 13/11/2024 20:43

If he has the children half the time the ex is a piss taker and he should apply for a variation of the spousal maintenance to have it reduced.
But I’m guessing if he can pay for nanny, housing, large maintenance to ex etc from working one day per week that his earnings at the time of divorce were probably north of 500k per annum and in cases like that spousal maintenance would be expected if there’s not enough assets to divide up.

If you live separately surely it’s not really your problem though and I’d stay out of it. He’s old enough to sort it out himself. Stop paying for stuff as well.

Playingintheshadow · 13/11/2024 20:44

healthybychristmas · 13/11/2024 20:37

Why on earth is he doing a business course when he has such a poor business brain? It's all about the money FFS! Can't he see he has made himself broke at a vital point in his career?

Maybe he's hoping to learn?

EG94 · 13/11/2024 20:58

I think as you don’t live together and share finances he wouldn’t necessarily and isn’t wrong for not discussing his decision with you because as you say it doesn’t directly affect you.

that said, his decision would mean a change in lifestyle and perhaps I am wrong but I think if he had come with the passion of I really want to do this, I will have to make some sacrifices but I really want this and his commitments to his ex and some non essentials for the kids were dropped as well as your shared couple lifestyle it would of been easier to swallow.

instead what he has done is made a decision for himself ensured his ex and kids aren’t impacted and showed little to no regard for your relationship and that is where I’d be fucking raging and would call it a day.

support your partner yes but he has been quite selfish in his thought process here and had he of made sacrifices ALL round I’d be more open to supporting emotionally and financially during his course.

Wonderi · 13/11/2024 21:11

As long as his kids aren’t missing out and he can pay his bills, then I say go for it!

It’s obviously something he’s wanted to do for a while and why not.

You only live once and we should do things that make us happy.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/11/2024 21:14

He's not broke though is he?

He's just choosing to spend his money on the MBA and his kids rather than on going out with you.

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 21:15

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 13/11/2024 20:22

@Meowingtwice

I think when anyone's upset about something they don't give their partner a glowing review do they?

But it's the fact that she's so annoyed about him choosing to fund the MBA & cut back on entertainment spend that is a bit odd. She has no interest in supporting him doing something he wants.

Why is it odd not to be interested in supporting a late-middle-aged wealthy boyfriend to do something he wants? Completely sensible in my opinion. If I find myself dating again through divorce or widowhood, I’ll be cheerfully and openly disinterested in supporting a man to do anything he wants that doesn’t coincide with what I want.

Coconutter24 · 13/11/2024 21:17

MiddleParking · 13/11/2024 20:13

That’s the crux of the issue, she doesn’t want to be doing one-sided ‘treating’ of her wealthy boyfriend. I wouldn’t either!

Then if she fancies fish and chips and a bottle of plonk she can treat herself whilst he is at his house and she is alone. It’s frustrating because their lifestyle will change whilst he is doing his course but it won’t be forever

LameBorzoi · 13/11/2024 21:17

It's only a year. I would go the pot noodles lifestyle and pay off the mortgage. He'll be done before you can blink.

Livinghappy · 13/11/2024 21:18

Op, take this as a warning, he has made a decision without factoring you into his thoughts. His whining about lack of money is an attempt to make himself a victim and elicit sympathy and cash from you.

Don't focus on his ex and watch out for your partner trying to pit you against each others. He may do it subtly - he has managed to persuade you that she won in court unfairly...whereas, in recent years, most women struggle to get a decent financial settlement. A judge would not have awarded her funds unless it was deemed necessary. I guarantee there is information you are unaware of.

Btw, MBA = mediocre but arrogant 😀