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Is this too much, too little or a normal amount of time to have the kids?

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NellyElly1 · 30/07/2024 15:13

As a childless step-mom in my set up, I'm starting to struggle a bit with how much we have my OH's children as it's feeling like we never get time to ourselves. His argument is that we'd have them full time if they were ours but the fact is they're not and I don't necessarily want children. I've sacrificed it because I love him. I worry about this for the future too, do other couples make things work if one isn't particularly maternal and accept that they won't feel the same way about their children that they do? I've always been independent, I have my own hobbies and like my own time as well.

The current rota at the moment is this and it cycles round each week:

From Friday at 4pm to Saturday at 5:30pm
From Friday at 4pm to Sunday at 10am
From Saturday at 4pm to Sunday at 5:30pm
From Friday at 4pm to Sunday at 3:30pm
Weekend off
And then it cycles back round again.

We also have them every Wednesday night.

I worked it out to be 10 Saturdays that we get solidly in a whole year (52 total) to ourselves from Friday night to Saturday night.

In total, out of 104 weekend days, we get 31 to ourselves.

As much as I like spending time with the children, I'm almost finding it too much and never feel like we get a break. I think it is impacting both of us too as he is constantly feeling like we are on the go as well and never get a breather.

Does this sound normal? Or is it too much or not enough?

Thank you.

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EG94 · 31/07/2024 13:26

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:21

His family visited a lot and I felt obligated to be there instead of going to see my own and also, he didn't want the kids meeting my family too soon so this took a while. They've only met my mum so far so she can now come round on weekends but anything else, I would either have to go on my own or not go.

Fuck me, you’re being told who can visit YOUR home? Can you really not see it? You must be able to if you’ve been in an abusive relationship before?!

BlackShuck3 · 31/07/2024 13:26

OP, you think that if you're lovely and kind and sweet and you give him everything he wants he will reward you by giving you what you want, i.e he will marry you.
But he won't because he knows you're a pushover and he can walk all over you any time he wants.

ZanyOP · 31/07/2024 13:26

And what about your friends ? You didn’t answer whether you see them and what they think of your situation?
They know you better than any of us, what do they think?

VisitationRights · 31/07/2024 13:28

It sounds like you are willing to compromise anything to just be with him. You have made having a significant other the most important thing to the exclusion of your own family being able to visit your home, staying as involved as you want and when you want in your horses, and having a relaxing time in your own home.

This is not a healthy relationship. And the disfunction has nothing to do with how many weekends his children are at your home.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 13:29

'I love being at home doing nothing too but he likes to be on the go so that's what we do.'

This is now so strange that I'm beginning to assume it's a joke.

Unless you've genuinely just written 'we always do what he wants' without any further thought process initiated.

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:30

Thursdaygirl · 31/07/2024 11:55

But whatever you do - do NOT (unless you're Charlotte DuJardin) give up your horses!!!!!

😂😂

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NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:33

sandragreen · 31/07/2024 11:57

@NellyElly1 you are ignoring all the posters pointing out to you that you are being taken for a complete mug.

This bloke and his children have taken over your home, depleted your time and finances, and you are getting what out of it exactly? The odd shag?

Where is your self esteem? You’re thirty! You shouldn’t be settling for this pile of shite.

Out of roughly 600 comments that keep appearing every 30 seconds, it's quite difficult to keep up. I'm replying to everything I can.
Every time I reply to one, it takes me to the latest page so I have to go back to find where I was each time!

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NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:34

JumpinJellyfish · 31/07/2024 12:00

@NellyElly1 Ive been following your responses on this thread and you haven’t responded at all to the many many people telling you you’re absolutely being taken for a ride here.

Have you decided to ignore this and carry on with your absolutely piss-taking arrangement? At the very least have some self esteem and get this loser to pay his way.

As I said on the PP, there are over 600 comments that keep coming and I'm trying to reply as quickly as I can. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm responding to the questions and I'll do a full update when I finally get to the end.

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arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 13:35

It is your prerogative to pretend the solution - of him moving out and having his dc as much as he wants then, and you having your hobby time - doesn't exist.

Because you then don't have to allow the thought in to your head that he's only with you for your money and childcare ops.

You don't have to respond to it on this thread of course. But I would urge you to give the thought some space in your head.

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:35

Starlight1979 · 31/07/2024 12:18

@NellyElly1 How come he didn't manage to pay off his debt whilst he was living with his mum and dad?

Too much to fully pay off in the relatively short amount of time.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/07/2024 13:44

I expect you are renaming your horses ' But, I love him ' and ' I fell in love '

and when you wave off your horses after selling them to new owners you can repeat to yourself - ' But, I love him ' and ' I fell in love '

maybe you could name other horses - you don't say if it's just 2 or more ?
' golden dick ' and ' cock lodger '

it's not a problem selling your horses as you won't be able to afford them soon after all he has debts, children and not contributing to household costs

how soon did it take him to realise / find out that 1. you have your own home 2. you earn a shitload - enough to subsidise a man and 2 children...

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:45

CandidHedgehog · 31/07/2024 12:42

Also, while nobody gets their partner to ‘fill out an application form’, most people mentally tick boxes in regard to a partner before moving to a deeper relationship.

  1. Financially solvent (no, in debt)
  2. Able to contribute to household (No, expects partner to pay for everything)
  3. Behaves in a way that makes partner happy (no, expects her to give up life to be constant source of entertainment).
  4. Good father (no, models exploiting women to fund lifestyle and is apparently incapable of caring for children by himself).

Application refused.

Edited

Regrettably, I didn't even think about these things or find things like that out when I fell for him. I should have been more vigilant.

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JimNast · 31/07/2024 13:45

As I said on the PP, there are over 600 comments that keep coming and I'm trying to reply as quickly as I can. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm responding to the questions and I'll do a full update when I finally get to the end.
But they are nearly all saying the same thing.

DreamyCyanFinch · 31/07/2024 13:48

Sunnydiary · 31/07/2024 12:36

That’s pretty pathetic.

Suck it up then…

Beung bitchy to the OP probably won't help her see sense.It's not necessary.Op have a good hard think about what all these strangers are trying to get across to you.Kindly you're being taken advantage of.Please be careful proceeding with this man.

Floofydawg · 31/07/2024 13:49

Selective responses I think. OP doesn't want to be helped.

WrongSortOfPoster · 31/07/2024 13:49

Regrettably, I didn't even think about these things or find things like that out when I fell for him. I should have been more vigilant.

If he'd arrived in your life with a big placard saying
"Dad in Debt seeks Nanny with a Fanny and a Good Job"
and accompanied by a battalion of red flag wavers you'd have still 'fallen in love'.

Starlight1979 · 31/07/2024 13:50

He loves them more than anything. He's a brilliant dad. I know a lot of people on here have said he's not but genuinely, he is so good with them. He lives for them, he'd have them every single day if he could.

Well he couldn't have them every single day could he? Because he doesn't have a home? He has your house currently but if your relationship ends then where is going to have his kids? It's not like he is going to even be able to rent, never mind buy, if he can't even afford to contribute to your household?

He literally moved out of his marital home, into his parents then straight into yours. At no point did he think "I need to find a stable home for my children to stay in". And during all that time, the debts he has built up haven't been paid off, despite him working full time and living for free.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 13:54

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:45

Regrettably, I didn't even think about these things or find things like that out when I fell for him. I should have been more vigilant.

You fell for him, that's done.

But you can make a decision now. You aren't stuck just because you fell in love. You can acknowledge that you're in love with a man who doesn't meet your needs and choose to walk away anyway to put your needs first.

manonwelfling · 31/07/2024 13:55

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:08

Funnily enough, marriage was the only goal I have in my life. I would love to be a wife and have a husband. I don't even think that's on the cards from his perspective so not really sure what he's offering me tbh as he's not sure he even wants to get married again.

Good Morning Wow GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

Your dream is about to come true, with all that entails.
But first you will have to pay for your engagement ring of course.

bunsnroses1 · 31/07/2024 13:59

Mate, you do know all this ‘I fell in love/but I love him’ stuff is complete bollox? Life isn’t a Disney film.
You are making your own life miserable. Wake up.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 14:00

This thread is so so sad because it's happening to so so so many women. We have to do better as a society of not teaching our little girls that their goal in life is to get married. That absent fathers is not their fault, it's the fault of the father. It is deeply sad that so many women will put up with absolutely anything to have a man. Break the cycle op. He isn't good enough for you. You are worth so much more than him.

EG94 · 31/07/2024 14:03

arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 14:00

This thread is so so sad because it's happening to so so so many women. We have to do better as a society of not teaching our little girls that their goal in life is to get married. That absent fathers is not their fault, it's the fault of the father. It is deeply sad that so many women will put up with absolutely anything to have a man. Break the cycle op. He isn't good enough for you. You are worth so much more than him.

And we have to teach our little boys that women are not there to wipe their arses. No means no and respect is earnt not given. Women are not threatening to men and we are not inferior. We are equal and better results are achieved by working together than tearing women down. Teach our boys to be better and our girls to accept nothing less. 🙌🏼🙌🏼

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 14:04

MrsSunshine2b · 31/07/2024 13:21

I'm not going to try and convince you he's not a good Dad. I'm sure he's fun with them when they come. But think about a good Mum- does a good Mum leave their kids with their Dad Mon-Fri and have them part of the weekend and one night a week, or would you think that's irresponsible? He's chosen a job which doesn't fit around his children, and he's chosen not to do the hard work or organising childcare and transportation so he can do the boring stuff that comes in the school week, the 9pm announcements that they need a Viking costume for tomorrow, the grumpy mornings when they won't eat breakfast, the constant washing and ironing of uniforms, helping them with the maths homework which takes twice as long as it should, filling out the reading diaries...the list goes on.

A "brilliant parent" doesn't just have to take them out and do fun things on a Saturday, it's a lot more than that. Single parents don't get to say they "can't" have their kids in the week, they just have to make it work.

I think he would have them more in the week. He just has very early starts and because the ex works school hours and lives nearly next to the school whereas we are a fair bit further away, they just agreed it was easier for them and the kids to be at home more during the week. It wasn't purely his decision. She decided the majority of the hours.
He does do all the homework on the midweek night, washes their clothes, sorting out bookbags, filling out their daily task things in their school books, P.E kits, making lunches, getting them bathed and sorting dinner around all of this. I'm at work until late hours anyway so I'm not there helping him with this, I'm usually home after they're in bed after sorting the horses. Plenty of grumpy mornings, rushing around getting them ready for school, having breakfast, brushing teeth, all of which he does on his own as I'm getting ready for work myself.
On the weekends, he washes their clothes, makes sure they're all dry and folded up ready to go back to mum so she doesn't need to do it. I don't control or take charge of any of this stuff. I look out for them as an adult caring for a child and being a friend to them but he sorts everything else and manages things.

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NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 14:07

ZanyOP · 31/07/2024 13:26

And what about your friends ? You didn’t answer whether you see them and what they think of your situation?
They know you better than any of us, what do they think?

I talk to my friends but I don't tell them stuff to be honest. I don't see them as much but that's my choice, I'm so busy with work and horses and I get a bit overwhelmed with having too many things to do at once.

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bunsnroses1 · 31/07/2024 14:08

So, so much baggage! A wholesale takeover of your life.
Can you answer this one simple question- what do you get out of this relationship? And the answer can’t be ‘I wuv him’)

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