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Is this too much, too little or a normal amount of time to have the kids?

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NellyElly1 · 30/07/2024 15:13

As a childless step-mom in my set up, I'm starting to struggle a bit with how much we have my OH's children as it's feeling like we never get time to ourselves. His argument is that we'd have them full time if they were ours but the fact is they're not and I don't necessarily want children. I've sacrificed it because I love him. I worry about this for the future too, do other couples make things work if one isn't particularly maternal and accept that they won't feel the same way about their children that they do? I've always been independent, I have my own hobbies and like my own time as well.

The current rota at the moment is this and it cycles round each week:

From Friday at 4pm to Saturday at 5:30pm
From Friday at 4pm to Sunday at 10am
From Saturday at 4pm to Sunday at 5:30pm
From Friday at 4pm to Sunday at 3:30pm
Weekend off
And then it cycles back round again.

We also have them every Wednesday night.

I worked it out to be 10 Saturdays that we get solidly in a whole year (52 total) to ourselves from Friday night to Saturday night.

In total, out of 104 weekend days, we get 31 to ourselves.

As much as I like spending time with the children, I'm almost finding it too much and never feel like we get a break. I think it is impacting both of us too as he is constantly feeling like we are on the go as well and never get a breather.

Does this sound normal? Or is it too much or not enough?

Thank you.

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NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:45

idkbroidk · 30/07/2024 21:35

does he ever spend time with his kids without you?

Yes

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Codlingmoths · 31/07/2024 12:48

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:20

Usually why most people have debts...

Actually, there’s a huge range. Some people have good debts like mortgages. Some people have debts that happened through bad luck or unforeseeable events, like needing a new car suddenly or paying some medical costs or education costs. Some people fall on hard time and go into debt to get through it. Some people are shit with money and can’t grasp spending less than they earn- avoid these people. Some people are spoilt and entitled and it’s not that they aren’t capable of budgeting but they think they should be able to live the life they deserve. Avoid these people like the plague. Especially for relationships!!

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:49

BlackShuck3 · 30/07/2024 21:51

@NellyElly1
The thread is all but unanimous, most of us think you are being exploited by this man, but you dont seem to be acknowledging that?

I can't see where I haven't acknowledged it?

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MzHz · 31/07/2024 12:50

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:34

Unfortunately I forgot to ask him to complete an application form before I fell in love!

if this was a job and the reality turned out differently to what you expected, you would make moves to change it and if that didn't work, you would leave.

If he contributed properly, if he did his WonderMan Parenting all by himself with a bit of an input from you, if he made time for you and understood that he has his priorities and you have yours and there was a need for compromise, that's fine and dandy...

but he wants everything his whole way all the time and you come bottom of the list ALWAYS.

People say kids come first all the time. No, that's not healthy. They need to know that they are a priority, but they are one priority and depending on circumstances, sometimes they may be on the podium, but NOT necessarily in gold medal position. Our kids and partners need to know that sometimes WE get put first, sometimes He is, sometimes DC are. If you don't show kids that sometimes mum/dad/stepM/D come first EVER, how will they learn to put other people first SOMETIMES?.

You are 30 years of age, in the PRIME OF YOUR LIFE! Your Relationship worth is CRAZY HIGH! you have little 'baggage' no dodgy exes making everyone's life a misery, no batshit inlaws you still have to see cos you have their grandkids etc etc.

You are single, standing on your own 2 feed, financially sound, own horses etc, you have done WELL! You can find WAAAAAAY better than this cast off bloke who can't even provide for himself or his kids let alone be a partner to you. You are worth SO much more.

Demand better for yourself! He either goes half on everything, covers all his kids costs, parents his kids himself with you doing things with them as a bonus, and understand that you are a living human being who has options ad choices and has her own life to lead, or you need to bring this relationship to a close.

He is not a catch at all, you have been 'had'

MzHz · 31/07/2024 12:52

As usual, your original question on this thread is a red herring, the real issue is that he is squashing your life into nothing, and he is living off you rather than living with you

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 12:53

Thursdaygirl · 30/07/2024 15:27

So you only get a weekend off every 5 weeks? No, this is not normal. We did EOW plus one midweek night. That was enough.

Maybe for you. Maybe not for the kids who didn't get much time with one of their parents.

PotatoPie111 · 31/07/2024 12:55

OP you refuse to see him as nothing other than perfect.
Of course he’s a great dad, he’s managed to also nab them a free house to live in and another caregiver. He’s gaslit you into thinking you need to be a family unit with them after a few months.

If this is what you want that’s fine. He’s not going to change though, be prepared to look back in a few years where your life has disappeared to. I bet in time he will push to have them more and more as well and I can guess who will pick up the extra work. He’s pushing you to become their second mum and you are letting him do that.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 12:55

'Funnily enough, marriage was the only goal I have in my life. I would love to be a wife and have a husband.'

Plus the post about the abuse and it now makes sense.

We can see this unemotionally op, and it's why it's an almost unanimous ltb. You are in love with being in love, and your brain is fighting to dismiss all the blindingly obvious red flags. I'm not sure there's anything anyone can say to make you see it. You'll have to realise it for yourself. Luckily you don't want dc so the wasted time doesn't matter there.

I hope for your sake you realise it asap.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/07/2024 12:56

If it works for mum and dad and they and the kids are happy, then it's normal and fine.

In my opinion, it's not enough time for the kids with their dad. But if they're happy, great.

If you aren't happy with the set up, you'll have to consider your options. The kids are coming first with him, and they absolutely should be. Can you live like this for the rest of your life?

Also, do your hobby when it suits you. It will be nice for your partner and his children to have some time just them anyway.

Conniebygaslight · 31/07/2024 12:59

EG94 · 31/07/2024 12:36

@NellyElly1 you mention being in abusive relationships before, the chances of going into another are extremely high because they feel familiar. Did you do any work on yourself after the previous ones? I’m waiting to start the freedom programme to understand how it happened and how to spot and avoid in the future.

I don’t think you’re ready to admit you’ve met another abuser because you defend him so highly. I don’t know what can be said for you to see the red flags? I guess just try to remember th pain, the turmoil and the confusion you went through in previous abusive relationships and then the whole rollercoaster getting out of it. That should be a deterrent from doing it again.

you’re gunna loose yourself girl. You are enough, you are good enough and you deserve the very very best. Tell yourself this each day. 🥰

@EG94 What do you mean by waiting to start the freedom programme please? I thought it was something online. Genuine question.

1VY · 31/07/2024 13:05

There’s a blindingly obvious solution here @NellyElly1 .

He moves out into his own place and has his kids 50% of the time. You’ve said several times how much he loves them and wants to have them more, but he only has them 25 hours a week by your own calculation.

Then he sees you the rest of the time when he doesn’t have his kids. And you have time for your own friends and hobbies on these other 3.5 days a week.

Naturally he will need to agree a new rota with his ex, where they share weekends, weekdays and school holidays . And adjust his working hours , but that will be easy enough , mums do it all the time.

You don’t have to live together to be a happy couple you know, you can open up your mind to different types of family set ups. As he loves you so much he will be happy to do this, aa it meets both your needs.

And of course I’m sure his kids will be happy to see much more of him, and to have them to themselves . Of course you can still pop in to see them at their dad’s sometimes, for special events like birthdays.

It’s a win win win win for everyone - you, him, his kids and his ex.

GotBeatenUp · 31/07/2024 13:05

... I fell in love!
What life has taught me is that you aren't in love with the person but in love with your perception of who they are.

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:07

Dahliasarebeautiful · 31/07/2024 00:05

Are his kids even remotely interested in the horses? I started riding when I was 7 and I absolutely loved it. Every weekend I wanted to be at the riding stables. Mucking out, feeding, grooming, tacking up, cleaning tack, you name it... I don't know if your horses are novice rides or not, but perhaps you could do one morning a weekend at the yard with the kids and then dad could take them elsewhere for an afternoon to give you back some space? Sorry if this has been suggested already but I've not read all the posts. Means you get some time back plus spending time with the horses and the kids?? Just a suggestion.

They're not a fan of going there and they're scared of the horses. It's also my escape place so merging it might be counterproductive but thank you. I will bear it in mind.

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Floofydawg · 31/07/2024 13:09

GotBeatenUp · 31/07/2024 13:05

... I fell in love!
What life has taught me is that you aren't in love with the person but in love with your perception of who they are.

Edited

Very wise. It took me one ex husband and a messy divorce before I realised this.

BlackShuck3 · 31/07/2024 13:10

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:49

I can't see where I haven't acknowledged it?

It's clear to me that your rose tinted spectacles are firmly fixed on, which is normal and understandable because as you have said, you are in love with him.
But he's sponging off of you and exploiting you.
I wish you all the very best 🌻

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:11

BlackShuck3 · 31/07/2024 00:53

@Dahliasarebeautiful , I have no knowledge of equestrian life but wouldnt it be quite stressful & demanding having to supervise his children while she's attending to her 4 legged charges🤷🏻‍♀

OP you shouldn't have to tiptoe around waiting on him to favour you by discussing an important issue. I'd be saying 'my gaffe my rules. Shape up or ship out buster!'

It is hardwork when they've come up with me, including OH of course. The youngest "helps" me with the feeds which takes triple the amount of time with the added waste of expensive supplements for my older mare being thrown on the floor because she's not paying attention and listening! Plus I can't have them in with my horses, the mare goes for little ones and the youngster will just think they're play toys!
I need the time to exercise her to keep her ticking over as she is arthritic and the youngster I'm starting to back which is time consuming too. The youngster is my future and they're my priority over time with the kids, unfortunately!

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NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:13

Spirallingdownwards · 31/07/2024 07:32

That's on him. He could find something to do. He chooses not to so he can guilt trip you from doing what you want to do. Pathetic little Andrew Tate wannabe.

He actually says the guilt is on me and he's never stopped me doing what I want!

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arethereanyleftatall · 31/07/2024 13:17

@1VY has the perfect solution @NellyElly1

Surely that is the best solution given that you've said he'd ideally want them as much as possible and that you want to spend more time with your horses. Then everyone would be happy, wouldn't they?

BlackShuck3 · 31/07/2024 13:19

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:13

He actually says the guilt is on me and he's never stopped me doing what I want!

Of course he does!
If you kick him off of the gravy train his life will get much much worse so he'll say and do whatever it takes to keep you drinking the Kool-Aid.

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:21

ZanyOP · 31/07/2024 09:24

You mention you don’t see as much of your family compared to his. Why is that? Have you cut contact with family since being in a relationship?
i always think friends are a good judge of these things and sniff out unhealthy relationships before you see it yourself. What do they think? Do you still see your friends like you used to before meeting him? Also do you socialise as a couple?
My experience from a toxic emotionally abusive relationship was that slowly my social circle reduced. I dedicated less time to my family and more to his. I spent less time with my friends so he wasn’t “alone”. We rarely socialised with friends as a couple and when we did it would always be his not mine.
Friends called this very early on and I ignored their well intended warnings. Eventually your world is so small you have no one to call on when things do go wrong.
Speaking as 38 yo with 2 young kids, I think you actually have the worst of situations. If you don’t want children of your own, then honestly looking after someone else’s is even worse! You are so young and sound very independent in spirit and personality. Obviously you love him but sometimes that doesn’t mean staying (or him leaving) is the right thing to do. You are already making too many compromises to accommodate his life choices.

His family visited a lot and I felt obligated to be there instead of going to see my own and also, he didn't want the kids meeting my family too soon so this took a while. They've only met my mum so far so she can now come round on weekends but anything else, I would either have to go on my own or not go.

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MrsSunshine2b · 31/07/2024 13:21

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 12:10

He loves them more than anything. He's a brilliant dad. I know a lot of people on here have said he's not but genuinely, he is so good with them. He lives for them, he'd have them every single day if he could.
This is the first time he's been in this situation and I don't think he is used to not having that set mum/dad family set up anymore. It's a learning curve for him as well.

I'm not going to try and convince you he's not a good Dad. I'm sure he's fun with them when they come. But think about a good Mum- does a good Mum leave their kids with their Dad Mon-Fri and have them part of the weekend and one night a week, or would you think that's irresponsible? He's chosen a job which doesn't fit around his children, and he's chosen not to do the hard work or organising childcare and transportation so he can do the boring stuff that comes in the school week, the 9pm announcements that they need a Viking costume for tomorrow, the grumpy mornings when they won't eat breakfast, the constant washing and ironing of uniforms, helping them with the maths homework which takes twice as long as it should, filling out the reading diaries...the list goes on.

A "brilliant parent" doesn't just have to take them out and do fun things on a Saturday, it's a lot more than that. Single parents don't get to say they "can't" have their kids in the week, they just have to make it work.

EG94 · 31/07/2024 13:22

Conniebygaslight · 31/07/2024 12:59

@EG94 What do you mean by waiting to start the freedom programme please? I thought it was something online. Genuine question.

It is online but sadly there is a waiting list. So many woman fleeing abusive relationships that it’s soo booked up. I contacted them 3 months ago and next course dates with space is early September. I don’t know if I did it right? This all came about through talking services who signposted me to a woman’s aid charity that offer the course.

Mylovelygreendress · 31/07/2024 13:23

@NellyElly1

“His family visited a lot and I felt obligated to be there instead of going to see my own and also, he didn't want the kids meeting my family too soon so this took a while. They've only met my mum so far so she can now come round on weekends but anything else, I would either have to go on my own or not go.”

It’s YOUR house ! Of course you should have your family round when you want. If he doesn’t want them to meet his DC he should take them out .
The more you write, the worse he seems !

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:24

Starlight1979 · 31/07/2024 09:41

Also, so what if he is at home with nothing to do?! My favourite thing is being at home with nothing to do!

Do you have to keep him entertained OP?

I love being at home doing nothing too but he likes to be on the go so that's what we do.

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MintTwirl · 31/07/2024 13:25

NellyElly1 · 31/07/2024 13:24

I love being at home doing nothing too but he likes to be on the go so that's what we do.

But he can be on the go with his kids while you are off doing other things.

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