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Dh being made redundant

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supertatos · 05/04/2024 19:46

For transparency I've NC as potentially outing if linked to other posts I've made.

DH is being made redundant. He's told the ex of the current date his maintenence payments will currently stop unless he finds a job. Even then it will likely be a reduced payment for a while due to nature of his current role.

I inherited a largish sum of money and have paid for the refurbishment of the kitchen which we couldn't really hide from the DSC. It was much needed as the existing kitchen was falling apart.

Obviously now the ex is kicking off saying he shouldn't be spending his money on that etc. He's told her it was my money. So yeah..you can guess what's coming..she wants me to pay the maintenance payments instead.

Am I right that my money is nothing to do with it even if it is a large lump sum inheritance or can she take this to court?

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OldTinHat · 06/04/2024 09:34

No. Nothing to do with you. You are not obliged to pay anything.

Iaskedyouthrice · 06/04/2024 09:42

Were you involved with your DH and his ex discussions on having children? Were you involved in the conception of their children? Were you involved in their discussions on having more than one child? If the answer is no to all 3 questions then you do not hand over a penny of YOUR money. It's never appreciated, becomes expected and it will never be enough.
Your step children already benefit from your wage.
This is a risk when you decide to seperate from the parent of your children. You do not get to demand money from your exes wife/partner and not one women with an ounce of self respect would.
I'm assuming dh is looking for something else so I wish him luck.

supertatos · 06/04/2024 09:50

The kids are actually named beneficiaries of his pension if he dies so they'll be ok if he dies

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climbthathill129 · 06/04/2024 09:59

Rosindub · 06/04/2024 09:24

Would the ex-wife expect you to continue paying if he died?
Most likely. And collective Mumsnet would tell the OP that she had no 'moral compass' if she refused.

1000%!

Worried8263839 · 06/04/2024 10:07

supertatos · 06/04/2024 09:13

Sorry I shouldn't have been so rude in my response to you

No I can understand you must be getting quite frustrated with some of the responses here! Don’t worry!

BionicBadger · 06/04/2024 10:18

This is up to the 2 parents to sort out and finance, not you. Your new kitchen is none of her business, she’s just very grabby.

supertatos · 06/04/2024 10:31

Worried8263839 · 06/04/2024 10:07

No I can understand you must be getting quite frustrated with some of the responses here! Don’t worry!

Thanks that's good of you to be understanding

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AnneLovesGilbert · 06/04/2024 10:31

The most fascinating thing about threads like this is views on child maintenance as a concept.

The prevailing narrative on here is that CM levels are always very low, don’t make any meaningful contribution to the costs of raising a child and any man or spouse of a NRP who says it’s not that low is lying.

Yet the NRP wants to reduce it due to a new child or has to because their circumstances change and the amount now missing is huuuuge. The poor RP is used to relying on the large amount, the children will starve and go barefoot.

Which is it?

Iaskedyouthrice · 06/04/2024 10:39

Sorry I missed that she was going to go the legal route. OP, let her.
You are covering the costs of your household, there is not a court in the land that will expect you to cover the shortfall in another house. Please trust me there. There will be no forced sale of assets, nothing. By the time it gets to court he will probably have found another job.
The ex will be wasting money she doesn't have to take this to court. That's if she takes on a solicitor. Also worth baring I mind, a solicitor will demand anything their clients ask of them so best to ignore all of that too until you are actually in front of a judge.
I would hope it doesn't get that far.
Edited to add, get some legal advice yourself if this will give you peace of mind.

supertatos · 06/04/2024 10:47

AnneLovesGilbert · 06/04/2024 10:31

The most fascinating thing about threads like this is views on child maintenance as a concept.

The prevailing narrative on here is that CM levels are always very low, don’t make any meaningful contribution to the costs of raising a child and any man or spouse of a NRP who says it’s not that low is lying.

Yet the NRP wants to reduce it due to a new child or has to because their circumstances change and the amount now missing is huuuuge. The poor RP is used to relying on the large amount, the children will starve and go barefoot.

Which is it?

VERY good point

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TheSpoonyNavyReader · 06/04/2024 10:49

AnneLovesGilbert · 06/04/2024 10:31

The most fascinating thing about threads like this is views on child maintenance as a concept.

The prevailing narrative on here is that CM levels are always very low, don’t make any meaningful contribution to the costs of raising a child and any man or spouse of a NRP who says it’s not that low is lying.

Yet the NRP wants to reduce it due to a new child or has to because their circumstances change and the amount now missing is huuuuge. The poor RP is used to relying on the large amount, the children will starve and go barefoot.

Which is it?

Every NRP, should pay for their children, of course but not a new wife/husband/partner of the NRP.

The amount is sometimes very low and does not go far enough.

Sometimes things change and the NRP cant for sometime pay what they have paid. The OP is now covering her husband and paying for the kids while they are at their house.

I say this as someone that ex has paid zero for a very long time.

Most comments are batshit and I feel the OP has been very balanced.

DorisDoesDoncaster · 06/04/2024 11:16

If any legislation or legal precedent existed, decreeing that new partners/spouses of people with children from previous relationships were legally required to pay child maintenance or any form of financial support to the ex-spouse/partner for the benefit their children, no sane person would ever get involved with someone with kids from a previous relationship.

Some of the replies on here are batshit.

Can’t believe the OP is being told to give money to his ex (indirectly by way of a loan) whilst her own household income is taking a battering and they have a child to house and support. As for selling their home to release equity to then give away, good grief.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 06/04/2024 11:19

I think there’s a world of difference between helping the children out of your salary ( perhaps ) and using an inheritance. Not in a month of Sundays would I dip into that. Have the children more, but sell the house or spend money left to you? No.

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:37

'Do I need to provide for another woman's children' no Op you don't. Anyone who thinks you owe her anything is tapped.

Your husband's ex shouldn't be leaning solely on child maintenance payments to live off and should really have her own job.

Crabble · 06/04/2024 11:39

ComfyBoobs · 05/04/2024 20:05

Is the house yours?

If not, doing everything he can would also include selling the house (ie his interest in it), downsizing and using those liquidated assets to support his children.

Truly, I have now heard it all.

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:40

Crabble · 06/04/2024 11:39

Truly, I have now heard it all.

This is absolutely crackers. There are too many unemployed people who think other people owe them a living.

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:43

cansu · 05/04/2024 20:09

It seems odd that you wouldn't lend your husband the money to keep supporting his children tbh.

WTF? Not her kids not her prob

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:46

ButterflyKu · 05/04/2024 20:15

UC isn’t there to cover a lack of child maintenance payments. Obviously we don’t know the ex wife’s financial situation but even if she is entitled to some support, a new claim will take 6 weeks to be approved anyway.

To answer your question OP, according to everyone on MN, ‘a husband’s money is family money and vice versa.’ I personally don’t see why you wouldn’t help your husband out by assisting with some payments so his children are cared for. I’m not saying the full amount but something so their mum can get by? Or your DH has his children more frequently but you’d still be covering the costs of them when they’re at your house anyway

OMFG she does not owe that woman shit. DH's ex wife needs to get a job.

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:50

OP, anyone here claiming you should lend money to your husband for CM is barmy or probably unemployed and think the world somehow owes them a living.

Text DH's ex this link https://www.mcdonalds.com/careers and block all contact. She is CF on steroids. The joblessness in this thread is astounding.

As if him losing his job isn't stressful enough, she sounds awful and I'm not surprised he left her and started a new family with someone a bit more balanced.

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Codlingmoths · 06/04/2024 11:51

supertatos · 05/04/2024 19:55

Why are you assuming he won't be?

Because your op says He's told the ex of the current date his maintenence payments will currently stop unless he finds a job.
nothing about using savings or cutting costs finding interim work asap. It does read as if he’s not earning therefore he’s not paying. I suppose any decent parent reads that and thinks but what options has he considered? When I didn’t have a job we were using savings to pay for our children, that’s what you do. And cutting back on everything in our life to use a minimum of savings while still paying for our children. It is really shit that non resident parents just get to go oh well me no pay.

stepparentbingo · 06/04/2024 12:00

Firstly - you are paying directly for your stepchildren by covering the mortgage / bills /utilities / food etc in full for a home they also reside at.

secondly - I know this is not exactly the point, and this will depend on circs, but if you are married to someone with minor children and child support is paid via an order made during divorce, then a claim can be made on your DH’s estate in the event of his death for what the payments might have been from the age the kids were at his death to the date payments would have stopped under the order. I believe this does not apply if through CMS, but you’d need legal advice. When the step kids were minors we had a separate life insurance policy to cover this. Just a heads up!

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 06/04/2024 12:02

supertatos · 05/04/2024 22:21

I don't need you to tell me that. I'm witnessing that.

They will live off her salary and benefits like we will be living off my salary

Yes, but he should still get a job, any job, so he can contribute in the meantime.

If I don't have a job, I can't pay my bills, simple as that. I do have other money coming in from other means but I don't want to have to rely on that.

supertatos · 06/04/2024 12:04

destroyess · 06/04/2024 11:50

OP, anyone here claiming you should lend money to your husband for CM is barmy or probably unemployed and think the world somehow owes them a living.

Text DH's ex this link https://www.mcdonalds.com/careers and block all contact. She is CF on steroids. The joblessness in this thread is astounding.

As if him losing his job isn't stressful enough, she sounds awful and I'm not surprised he left her and started a new family with someone a bit more balanced.

Why would I send her that? She has a job

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supertatos · 06/04/2024 12:04

supertatos · 06/04/2024 12:04

Why would I send her that? She has a job

And she left him.

WTH is this thread

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supertatos · 06/04/2024 12:05

stepparentbingo · 06/04/2024 12:00

Firstly - you are paying directly for your stepchildren by covering the mortgage / bills /utilities / food etc in full for a home they also reside at.

secondly - I know this is not exactly the point, and this will depend on circs, but if you are married to someone with minor children and child support is paid via an order made during divorce, then a claim can be made on your DH’s estate in the event of his death for what the payments might have been from the age the kids were at his death to the date payments would have stopped under the order. I believe this does not apply if through CMS, but you’d need legal advice. When the step kids were minors we had a separate life insurance policy to cover this. Just a heads up!

Thanks we have that bit covered but good to raise awareness for others

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