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Dh being made redundant

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supertatos · 05/04/2024 19:46

For transparency I've NC as potentially outing if linked to other posts I've made.

DH is being made redundant. He's told the ex of the current date his maintenence payments will currently stop unless he finds a job. Even then it will likely be a reduced payment for a while due to nature of his current role.

I inherited a largish sum of money and have paid for the refurbishment of the kitchen which we couldn't really hide from the DSC. It was much needed as the existing kitchen was falling apart.

Obviously now the ex is kicking off saying he shouldn't be spending his money on that etc. He's told her it was my money. So yeah..you can guess what's coming..she wants me to pay the maintenance payments instead.

Am I right that my money is nothing to do with it even if it is a large lump sum inheritance or can she take this to court?

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TheCheekyKoala · 05/04/2024 23:59

HelenTudorFisk · 05/04/2024 23:30

Oh for gods sake 🤣 I’m perfectly capable of comprehending she ‘chose’ to move away. In the same way that I’m also capable of comprehending he didn’t quit his job, he’s been made redundant. Also not a choice. But the fact remains that as a result of these circumstances, he’s now not contributing much to his first kids, is he? None of us know why she moved (though I suspect this will provoke a giant drip feed painting the ex wife in a negative light) - she may have moved for more family support, or for her own work. Ultimately either the father agreed to this or a court made an order allowing it.
Whilst on the subject of comprehension, you may also note that I pointed out I don’t think this makes the new wife financially responsible. Just that I could see why the old wife might be throughly pissed off at being responsible for 90% of the practical parenting and, for the moment, 100% of the finances.

If you can comprehend that the ex moved away then you can comprehend it’s her own fault she’s ended up doing 90% of the parenting. She made her bed in regards to that when she moved.

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:00

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 05/04/2024 23:45

She's not, they aren't at her house 25% of the time. She can only ever be 75% responsible for their financial living costs.

So do we think in his every other weekend he happens to purchase school uniforms, new shoes, clothes they have grown out of, pay for school excursions, presents for friends birthday appointments, medical and dental expenses….I doubt it highly. So she will end up, by default, paying over 75% of the costs by virtue of the fact they are with her most of the time those costs arise.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/04/2024 00:02

HelenTudorFisk · 05/04/2024 23:58

You cannot really be arguing that every other weekend and half the holidays is in anyway comparable to the day in day our grind of parenting every single school week and the mental load that comes with being the primary caregiver…🤣

No, as PP says, are you hard of comprehension?

It's 25% of the year. That's not "fuck all" parenting.

And personally I find the weekdays far easier, and dramatically cheaper than weekends and holidays.

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:03

TheCheekyKoala · 05/04/2024 23:59

If you can comprehend that the ex moved away then you can comprehend it’s her own fault she’s ended up doing 90% of the parenting. She made her bed in regards to that when she moved.

Neither of us have any idea why she moved. Would you say that regardless of the circumstances?

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:08

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 06/04/2024 00:02

No, as PP says, are you hard of comprehension?

It's 25% of the year. That's not "fuck all" parenting.

And personally I find the weekdays far easier, and dramatically cheaper than weekends and holidays.

No, I’m not. I am increasingly amused by the pile on of people on this particular board who seem so eager to defend a father contributing very minimally to the upbringing of the children from his first marriage, though. I’m really glad for you that you find weekdays so much easier from a parenting point of view but so very much doubt that is a widely held perspective of parenting.

TheCheekyKoala · 06/04/2024 00:15

OP don’t give her fuck all.

She can’t get a penny of your money and so she shouldn’t be able to.

He’s been made redundant. It happens. She will have to suck it up.

TheCheekyKoala · 06/04/2024 00:17

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:00

So do we think in his every other weekend he happens to purchase school uniforms, new shoes, clothes they have grown out of, pay for school excursions, presents for friends birthday appointments, medical and dental expenses….I doubt it highly. So she will end up, by default, paying over 75% of the costs by virtue of the fact they are with her most of the time those costs arise.

You don’t have a clue what he contributes too…. You are just going along with your own narrative.

There is literally not one bit of evidence he hasnt bought school uniform, shoes, clothing.
Just because she made a choice to move away doesn’t mean he doesn’t pay for things.

TheCheekyKoala · 06/04/2024 00:19

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:08

No, I’m not. I am increasingly amused by the pile on of people on this particular board who seem so eager to defend a father contributing very minimally to the upbringing of the children from his first marriage, though. I’m really glad for you that you find weekdays so much easier from a parenting point of view but so very much doubt that is a widely held perspective of parenting.

Weekdays are much easier to handle. Kids have routine.
Weekends you have to entertain them.

Not sure why you doubt many parents have that view as all my friends prefer when their kids go back to school!

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:22

TheCheekyKoala · 06/04/2024 00:17

You don’t have a clue what he contributes too…. You are just going along with your own narrative.

There is literally not one bit of evidence he hasnt bought school uniform, shoes, clothing.
Just because she made a choice to move away doesn’t mean he doesn’t pay for things.

No, I believe that he didn’t need to pay for those things because he was paying maintenance. Which is why the maintenance aspect is important - that was what covered (or tried to cover) the imbalance. The literal whole point of this thread, is that he won’t be paying maintenance anymore. And my whole point is, that the mother of his children has every right to feel a bit pissed off about that, regardless of the circumstances.

Rosindub · 06/04/2024 00:24

BeretInParis · 05/04/2024 20:37

There are so many assumptions here. @supertatos can you clarify please? What percentage care does your DH have? Will the former wife struggle financially without his payments? How long would she be able to juggle for before zero payments from him cause real issues? How much will future earnings and hence payments decrease by? What functional help can your soon to be unemployed DH offer to be helpful to his kids / ex?

Why is no one asking whether the OP will struggle and how long the OP can manage financially without her husband's financial input to her household?

OllyBJolly · 06/04/2024 00:37

OP has no obligation to fund her DH’s children.

Her DH has a responsibility to continue to contribute to their upkeep. As a PP says, the utilities don’t forgive a bill because someone can’t pay. CMS should not be optional. It shouldn’t be the first commitment to drop when things get tight. Why does DH not have any rainy day fund/savings for this eventuality?

The DM is doing the lion’s share of the childcare by far. Very unfair if the OP’s DH does not do all he can to continue to support that.

Voicefrog · 06/04/2024 00:43

Rosindub · 06/04/2024 00:24

Why is no one asking whether the OP will struggle and how long the OP can manage financially without her husband's financial input to her household?

Because money grab. I don't know.

CantstopsayingFFS · 06/04/2024 00:44

ButtockUp · 05/04/2024 20:14

These are the pitfalls of blended families.

You partner has commitments. If he can't meet them then his children will suffer.
If you don't want to help either because you don't want to or can't afford it then so be it.

Yes it's down to your partner to facilitate his children's care but this will have to be funded somehow.
These children will be your step children.
If you don't want to be a step mother then end the relationship.

In my opinion, judging by the many threads on here, blended families rarely work.

You choose.

Yes but those blended families that do work don't bother posting on Mumsnet and there are plenty of those...

What would he do if he wasn't in a new relationship? The question is will the SC be struggling without this maintenance - will they have no warmth, no food, no shelter, no clothes, school activities etc? Or will they just miss out on extra stuff for a while. If they were still together and he was made redundant, the whole family would have to reign in the spending.

It's not a black and white situation. If the ex is struggling which will affect the SC then perhaps the op can help out temporarily but she may be reluctant if the ex say for example continues to get her nails and hair done (if she's that way inclined). I don't know - don't have the full facts of the situation. Maybe she does have the bare minimum? Apologies as I haven't read the full thread..

Rosindub · 06/04/2024 00:57

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 05/04/2024 22:19

Yes but with the current job market the way it is and the fact there’s a recession on he might find it harder than usual to get another job. Hopefully this won’t be the case but you do have to factor that possibility in. What’s his ex wife and children going to live in meantime? Hot air?

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What is his current household going to live on? Is the Ex's current partner going to contribute?

whataboutthedog · 06/04/2024 01:12

He isn't going to have an income other than benefits. Will they even give him benefits I don't know? Presumably not as I've got savings.
He could qualify for Jobseeker’s Allowance - that is not means tested and available to many people even if they have savings or redundancy payments. It’s not a huge amount but could help to tide him
over for a while. I think you get it for about 6 months and hopefully he’ll have found work by then.

Annielou67 · 06/04/2024 01:18

I feel like I’ve entered the twilight zone with this thread. OP there is no reason why you would pay your dhs maintenance. Without his work you will already be supporting him for a short while in your own household. I didn’t read whether you had your own children, but your inheritance is for your family or your future. You could always offer to have the children more whilst he is off - maybe that will save some money.

Voicefrog · 06/04/2024 01:30

whataboutthedog · 06/04/2024 01:12

He isn't going to have an income other than benefits. Will they even give him benefits I don't know? Presumably not as I've got savings.
He could qualify for Jobseeker’s Allowance - that is not means tested and available to many people even if they have savings or redundancy payments. It’s not a huge amount but could help to tide him
over for a while. I think you get it for about 6 months and hopefully he’ll have found work by then.

Does that still exist? I think it's all UC?

supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:05

neilyoungismyhero · 05/04/2024 22:52

Could your husband not do some agency work whilst he is looking for his niche work?

Yes he could. Don't worry he has that on his radar

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thismummydrinksgin · 06/04/2024 07:11

There are other ways she could be supported perhaps childcare while he's out of work or having them over more often. Absolutely not your financial responsibility in my opinion. This is between you husband and his ex. They need to communicate and ensure the child's needs are met.

supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:11

HelenTudorFisk · 05/04/2024 23:30

Oh for gods sake 🤣 I’m perfectly capable of comprehending she ‘chose’ to move away. In the same way that I’m also capable of comprehending he didn’t quit his job, he’s been made redundant. Also not a choice. But the fact remains that as a result of these circumstances, he’s now not contributing much to his first kids, is he? None of us know why she moved (though I suspect this will provoke a giant drip feed painting the ex wife in a negative light) - she may have moved for more family support, or for her own work. Ultimately either the father agreed to this or a court made an order allowing it.
Whilst on the subject of comprehension, you may also note that I pointed out I don’t think this makes the new wife financially responsible. Just that I could see why the old wife might be throughly pissed off at being responsible for 90% of the practical parenting and, for the moment, 100% of the finances.

None of us know why she moved (though I suspect this will provoke a giant drip feed painting the ex wife in a negative light)

It's not a "drip feed" to provide information that answers people's assumptions and questions. It isn't relevant to the question. There is a reason she moved so far away and that is not relevant here at all. You'll just have to do without that information. I don't want to paint her in a negative light - she's a nice enough person really we don't have anything to do with each other so I don't know her.

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supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:13

TheCheekyKoala · 05/04/2024 23:59

If you can comprehend that the ex moved away then you can comprehend it’s her own fault she’s ended up doing 90% of the parenting. She made her bed in regards to that when she moved.

It's not even really her "fault" it's what she wanted. DH had to fight hard to get the half the holidays.

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supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:16

HelenTudorFisk · 06/04/2024 00:22

No, I believe that he didn’t need to pay for those things because he was paying maintenance. Which is why the maintenance aspect is important - that was what covered (or tried to cover) the imbalance. The literal whole point of this thread, is that he won’t be paying maintenance anymore. And my whole point is, that the mother of his children has every right to feel a bit pissed off about that, regardless of the circumstances.

In case this is at all relevant (it's not to my OP really)
He currently pays half of school uniform and school trips, after school clubs, phone contracts outside of maintenance

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supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:16

Rosindub · 06/04/2024 00:24

Why is no one asking whether the OP will struggle and how long the OP can manage financially without her husband's financial input to her household?

I will thank you. I have a buffer in the form of the remains of my inheritance but it won't last forever

OP posts:
supertatos · 06/04/2024 07:18

whataboutthedog · 06/04/2024 01:12

He isn't going to have an income other than benefits. Will they even give him benefits I don't know? Presumably not as I've got savings.
He could qualify for Jobseeker’s Allowance - that is not means tested and available to many people even if they have savings or redundancy payments. It’s not a huge amount but could help to tide him
over for a while. I think you get it for about 6 months and hopefully he’ll have found work by then.

Oh thank you! I thought it was means tested

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RedHelenB · 06/04/2024 07:19

somptuosité · 05/04/2024 20:03

If I had the money spare I would lend my DH the money so he could continue to support his children.

(BTW I don’t have SC and I have no experience of being a SM).

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