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Moan about my DSD

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hestonis · 20/02/2023 23:42

DSD is 10 and we have her every weekend, sometimes just the Sunday and sometimes Saturday to Sunday overnight, also two weekdays but not overnight
This week we've had her two nights and oh my god I've found it emotionally draining, I know I shouldn't complain but I've got no one to talk to about it.
I find she treats me like the competition in her fathers affection, everything she does is to impress him, and I know there is nothing wrong with that but when she sits on his lap and ruffles his hair it makes me feel a little ill.
It actually completely puts me off my DH, maybe she knows this. She has a very contrary attitude and almost everything I say she picks apart. Ie I said I was going to the hairdresser the next day and it was all 'are your roots your real colour?' 'Why not try not dying it' 'why do you go all the way there for your hair to get done' etc etc.
anyway I know I'll get torn apart for this but I just find her exhausting.
It doesn't help that my husband works away and only seems to come home for his contact time with her.
I just hope she grows out of it

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MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 21/02/2023 14:06

thestepmumspacepodcast · 21/02/2023 13:32

@MillicentTrilbyHiggins Were you with them when all these incidences happen or are they what you were told?

No I wasnt there. But my ex told me about them because it was apparently my job to explain to the DC why they couldn't sit with their dad, or hold his hand.

FfoxRedN · 21/02/2023 20:15

@thestepmumspacepodcast thanks for your validating post. You're right, some people just DONT get it: it's not jealousy either. It's wanted to feel important even when the stepchildren are there.
I can empathise with a lot of OPs comments, it does get easier, but I will still be giving that book a read! Xx

iCouldSleepForAYear · 21/02/2023 21:06

The attention seeking behaviour you describe is usually rooted in insecurity.

Do the girls have one set of boundaries, rules and expectations at their mum's house, but a completely different (nonexistent?) set of rules at their dad's? That will actually contribute massively to feelings of insecurity.

It's one thing to have slightly different expectations between houses. Like, maybe at mum's you need to keep your bedroom tidy, and at dad's, the bedroom isn't a priority but you need to help dry the dishes instead. In my limited experience, that's a reasonable adjustment for a child to make.

But children really do thrive on consistency and routine. If your DH has them at his house on a regular basis, then keeping up a similar routine to what they have at their mum's will help them feel more settled. My DH and his ex did have slightly different expectations of DSD when she was young. But bedtime was the same between houses. Other big things like eating a balanced diet, doing homework, manners, and how discipline was enacted were pretty consistent too.

I think it can also be normal for a parent (maybe especially a dad) to believe they have a favourite child. But I think that in practice, that just means there's a child the parent has more in common with. IMO, it's normal to realise you have more in common with one child than another. But that should be motivation to get to know the other child better, and maintaining balance. Where is your DH's motivation to spend some quality 1:1 time with his younger daughter?

When it comes to 10 year olds taking things too far and being a bit rude with questions ... sometimes at that age they can just be really socially awkward. They're trying to run with the grownups and often getting it all wrong. Ask me sometime about my 9 year-old DD trying to be sarcastic. 😬

Best thing that's worked for me during those moments is to gently but firmly explain how the behaviour is awkward, and how you're feeling about it. Or, if you're beyond that (we all have days when we're beyond that), a polite but firm: "I'm done now. No more questions."

Why do divorced dads spoil their kids? The one I knew IRL was terrified that his kids would refuse to see him if he started enforcing any boundaries. I knew a divorced mum who expressed feeling in a similar position with her DC when they were younger. It's anxiety talking though, not reality. Kids just want to love their parents, and know for sure that their parents love them back.

If you're looking for another good book, I highly recommend How To Talk So Kids Will Listen, And Listen So Kids Will Talk. An oldie but goodie. Set me on a better path with my own DSD, and set my DH on a better path with her too.

iCouldSleepForAYear · 21/02/2023 21:12

Your point about wanting some quality child-free time with your DH is a valid one too, especially if the only time he's home from work is during contact time with his children. Your DH needs to find a way to make that better with work. Until he can, maintaining a bedtime consistent with the kids' mum's house will give you guys a shot at catching a TV programme together (or maybe a game of cards if TV ain't your thing).

Every couple needs a chance to get some quality time together without the kids around. It's why we have date nights.

hestonis · 21/02/2023 21:21

Thank you @iCouldSleepForAYear great points and I appreciate the time taken to write that.
I have actually read Stepmonster and I thought it was brilliant, I'd love if my DH would read it or listen to the audio book but I'd be so embarrassed asking him to.
I feel I have a bit of an imposter syndrome surrounding my DSC, like I don't feel like a real step mum. I can't really explain it but I don't feel I do enough to parent to deserve that title, even though I cook for them and clean after them and engage with them as much as their dad, I feel if I asked him to read this book he'd be like 'what are you on about you're not a proper step mum and don't parent my children so why are you reading this'
Even though he actually wouldn't, not really sure if I've made sense

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hestonis · 21/02/2023 21:22

Thanks @thestepmumspacepodcast for your post, I listen to your podcast and I really liked the one about the accidental step mum. Some of it rang true for me

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TheChoiceIsYours · 21/02/2023 21:34

lunar1 · 21/02/2023 08:42

The age old story, the man is pretty crap and building up massive problems between siblings for the future. But of course an adult man can't be blamed, it's not like the adults involved have any power over the situation.

All the blame, annoyance, responsibility must be placed on the 10 year old girl. Gotta get her used to the role of a female in the world haven't we.

This.

OP you’re fixated on this child when the man you’re married to sounds like a nasty psycho who is fucking up both his daughters for life. How are you with this man, just how?! What can you love or find attractive about a man like this? You’re ignoring everyone pointing out that he’s the one in the wrong because it’s easier to blame a ten year old girl for her reaction to a grown man’s messed up behaviour, than it is to hold him accountable. Nasty.

iCouldSleepForAYear · 21/02/2023 21:38

@hestonis You don't have to have the same bond a bio parent would to feel a sense of responsibility for a child's well-being. Especially one who shares your home on a regular basis.

If he tends to see parenting as a thing the bio parent does, maybe reframing it as being responsible will help include you in the conversation?

Butterfly44 · 21/02/2023 22:41

Take it you have no children yourself as you don't seem to comprehend how a 10yo can behave. I see nothing wrong in any of the instances of her behaviour. These 2 days are her time with dad. The younger one as you say sadly never bonded as much. It's great he uses all his contact time, so he should. I'm sure his children come first. You're 'tiring' of her sounds like jealousy. Nothing for her to grow out of.

Birdsbirdsbirds · 21/02/2023 22:55

Cuppsoupmonster · 21/02/2023 11:38

That’s because it’s your mum and dad. You’re not this girls mum. Sit next to him on the 5 days a week you don’t have her. I always find couples that need to cling to each other and hold hands constantly to be really needy and joyless.

Did you miss the part where he works away and only comes back on contract days?

hestonis · 21/02/2023 22:59

@Birdsbirdsbirds everyone seems to have missed that and also missed that I never mentioned sitting on the sofa with my DH. I'm quite happy to sit on my own. But not sure what difference it makes being a stepmother over an actual mother? So mums are allowed to sit next to their husbands but step mums are not?

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Feefee00 · 21/02/2023 23:04

hestonis · 21/02/2023 22:59

@Birdsbirdsbirds everyone seems to have missed that and also missed that I never mentioned sitting on the sofa with my DH. I'm quite happy to sit on my own. But not sure what difference it makes being a stepmother over an actual mother? So mums are allowed to sit next to their husbands but step mums are not?

Mums generally aren't bothered if DC sit next to their dad and cuddle. It generally doesn't cross my mind if I want to cuddle DH I do so at bed time. It's entirely normal for DC to have physical affection with their parent it's not a competition.

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:05

Everyone also seems to think I'm somehow jealous and competing for my husband's attention, I absolutely do not, he gives me attention and that grates on DSD maybe but I'm quite happy to do my own thing, I absolutely love when they go off on day trips but the annoying thing is my DH kind of expects me to come too as he's not home for long. I get my house all to myself the majority of the week so I hope people can understand how jarring it is to have DH and two children burst through the door (he often picks them up on the way home)
I've told him my preferences in life are as follows
1, me and him alone together
2, me alone
3, me, him and is kids.
But I do honestly think that no3 is there because of his parenting style towards dsd and her reaction

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hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:10

That's not to say I hate the kids, it's just to say I actually enjoy my own company very much, DH is away now and I've got loads of work done now relaxing, If my DH were to message to say he was giving a surprise visit with DSC I'd rather he didn't

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Feefee00 · 21/02/2023 23:14

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:05

Everyone also seems to think I'm somehow jealous and competing for my husband's attention, I absolutely do not, he gives me attention and that grates on DSD maybe but I'm quite happy to do my own thing, I absolutely love when they go off on day trips but the annoying thing is my DH kind of expects me to come too as he's not home for long. I get my house all to myself the majority of the week so I hope people can understand how jarring it is to have DH and two children burst through the door (he often picks them up on the way home)
I've told him my preferences in life are as follows
1, me and him alone together
2, me alone
3, me, him and is kids.
But I do honestly think that no3 is there because of his parenting style towards dsd and her reaction

You said when DSD sits on his lap and ruffles his hair it makes you feel sick. That's not a normal reaction to a child having physical affection with her dad. Anyway you obviously aren't getting any couple time in the winter so your choices are tell OH to get a new job or leave. He's not going to want to reduce contact with his kids as any decent parent wouldn't.

Ashorthistoryfan · 21/02/2023 23:17

You said when DSD sits on his lap and ruffles his hair it makes you feel sick. That's not a normal reaction to a child having physical affection with her dad.

Yes, this. What did you mean by that statement OP? It seems a very strange thing to say.

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:20

@Feefee00 probably an exaggeration on my part, I don't feel sick more it makes me feel a bit like I have to look away. Certainly don't look and think 'awwww' Brady bunch style like I should feel

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hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:23

And I absolutely do wish it was like the Brady bunch, you @Feefee00 must have your life sorted, so assertive and know what you want, not happy with aspects of your life... leave your DH, definitely wish I could be more like this. But he's not a monster and I'm not, just venting on Mumsnet

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RenoDakota · 21/02/2023 23:28

That poor girl. Resented for showing normal affection to her dad.

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:34

@RenoDakota how's it poor girl? I don't say anything or try and change her?

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Ashorthistoryfan · 21/02/2023 23:46

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:34

@RenoDakota how's it poor girl? I don't say anything or try and change her?

I'd say she'll pick up on your resentment without you having to spell it out for her OP! Children aren't stupid, they know when they're not wanted. It might be a reason why she clings to her dad too.

hestonis · 21/02/2023 23:52

I am very careful
You are all saying the dad should make sure he shows he loves the younger child like the older one but if that's true that you can't hide your true feelings then why bother, she'll know anyway
Can't win with you lot, first you say 'make sure you love them like your own'
Next it's 'they arnt yours so don't you dare love them'
Then it's 'if you don't love them pretend to'
Then it's 'why pretend,they arnt stupid!'

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ourflagmeansdeath · 21/02/2023 23:59

Have you had the chance to discuss with your DH about any of this??

hestonis · 22/02/2023 00:01

@ourflagmeansdeath no he's away until Friday

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hestonis · 22/02/2023 00:10

@Feefee00 I think it's odd that you feel second wives are inferior to first ones. You say that stepmums should sit separately from DH when DSC come round? But it's ok for first wives of first families to sit next to DH.
What about when stepmum goes on to have children with DH? Should she and her children sit separately? Should the child from the second marriage be put aside during contact time to facilitate the DSC? Should that child see its mother treated like a second class citizen when the DSC arrive?
Your theory is flawed. The only way to bring up children to respect parents and stepparents is for those parents to treat each other equally, that means as previous poster said not putting anyone above r anyone else

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