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It's the most wonderful time of the year!

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PeeAche · 20/12/2021 08:59

This is neither a rant nor a "seeking advice" thread - but, inspired by another thread about "second Christmas" - I'm curious to know what "tolerance" or "concessions" other step parents have learned to make at this time of year. Perhaps something you wouldn't have done with your own kids? Perhaps something you grit your teeth through every year.

I have three:

  1. Every other year, I used to have to cook 2 Christmas dinners: 1 on Christmas Day and 1 on second Christmas, when we had the SC. It took me several years to grow enough baubles to say "No! This year, second Christmas is a buffet." I think everyone was relieved tbh. 😅
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PeeAche · 20/12/2021 09:07

I pressed post too soon!

And 3. My DH does proper pressies from
The Big Guy, instead of just stocking fillers. Like, one year, Father Christmas brought them the latest games console. I grew up with just tiny inexpensive gifts from FC. And I think it's better that way because then if children talk about it, nobody thinks he gives out gifts of unequal value. But it's not my circus, right? So I just shut my mouth. 😅

What things do you find yourself doing differently as a step parent to a parent-parent.

***

"Step Mums Suck" Christmas BINGO:
No, I do not resent my SC "tbh";
No, I was not the OW;
No, I will not be LTBing my DH over a games console;
No, my SC do not hate coming to our house;
Yes, I really am a step mother and not just your children's father's new squeeze

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PeeAche · 20/12/2021 09:10

I said I had 3. I posted 2. Wtf? I give up.

Tell me yours, ladies.

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candlelightsatdawn · 20/12/2021 09:13

So we have to mirror Christmas Day on Boxing Day again and it's the two large lunches I struggle to eat. Third world problems I realise.

My DH does all the cooking but it's the clean up and the fact that actually eating two heavy weight meals in two days makes me feel bit like a beached whale and watching Christmas films again when I would prefer actually to be out shopping on Boxing Day. It's like we have mirror everything when actually by that day I'm a bit bored of decking "ring bells on repeat".

Forced joviality for one day is bad enough but for two it's a tad painful.

PeeAche · 20/12/2021 09:21

@candlelightsatdawn you gotta get on that Christmas buffet! Not even the kids want second Christmas on Boxing Day - they want Boxing Day!!

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aSofaNearYou · 20/12/2021 09:29

I have to put up with is the way my DSS reacts to presents 🥴 Always some kind of ingratitude/total disinterest/basically saying "are there more?" I try not to watch for my own sanity because it makes my eye twitch.

But the main thing I put up with, which might be a bit more serious than the tone of the thread really, is never having any flexibility with plans. My family and friends live at the other end of the country from us and DPs family and DSS, and every year it's a very flying visit to my parents and no opportunity to see anybody in my wider family or friends, because we have to be back immediately to see DSS. It's a bit of a deflating sacrifice to have to make every year.

motheroflions · 20/12/2021 09:32

Why wouldn't your dh buy them 'proper' presents?

Christmas buffets rock.

Just10moreminutesplease · 20/12/2021 09:39

As a stepchild who had two Xmas dinners for a few years, I wholeheartedly agree that Xmas buffets rock!

Can I add in my gripes as an adult stepchild?

*So much rushing around! It’s even harder to spend quality time with my parents/stepparents and siblings/step siblings this year now that we have a baby everyone is dying to do Xmas stuff with.

*My in-laws totally don’t understand. They see it as us spending more time with my family… except I have two sets so one day each means not seeing either my mum or dad and stepmum

  • So many gifts to buy!

Overall though, these are little problems and I’m lucky to have a stepmum and siblings I love.

BeyondOurReef · 20/12/2021 09:52

My annual Christmas disappointment comes as my husband makes it clear (through his choices and actions) that we (me and our baby) are just an afterthought to be fitted in when it suits him or would be entertaining for the SC. His ‘family’ is, for Christmas purposes, the SC and his mother/siblings.

Everything is supposed to be organised around what his ex will let him have wrt the SC. And then for him to take the SC to visit his family. All this is always arranged without any discussion with me. I get told his plans and then asked what mine are. Because clearly we are not a family unit and it would be ridiculous for him to plan Christmas with his wife.

A side effect of this is that I cannot actually make any plans of my own because my husband will kick up a fuss if they don’t make me and our DS available to him for his family purposes. It’s like DS is just a prop and my role is to ensure he’s available whenever it suits his father.

This year I told my H that actually I have plans for Christmas Eve so none of us are available as props and stage managers now that he’s got his ex to let him have Christmas Eve with the SC. And he was awful. Clearly I am not part of the family but it’s not ok if I make my own plans either. I should just be sitting waiting for when I’m convenient to him and his actual family.

So that’s depressing and infuriating. I mean, it is much better if he takes the SC to visit his mother from 26-28 December because his mother is possibly the least pleasant person I’ve ever met (and she plays favourites with her grandchildren). But having it made utterly obvious that I’m not actually part of his idea of ‘family’ (unless it suits him to demand that I do something) is never fun.

Nor is the ‘making it fair for the SC’ thing ever fun at all. ‘Fair’ meaning they get much more than anyone else, and then much more from their family too.

I never enjoy giving them presents because their parents have allowed them to have a hideous attitude about it. Nothing is ever good enough for either of them and they’re never grateful for anything. No. They just complain about how it’s not good enough. And their father makes excuses. This doesn’t just happen at Christmas (yesterday SS’s response to being taken to softplay was to bitch and moan that it was a softplay he’d been to before and he wanted a new one; and his father basically started making excuses to explain why he’d booked this clearly inferior one rather than telling his son that he should be polite and thankful that he is being taken to softplay at all). The thing that makes it worse at Christmas is the context of the whole ‘making it fair’ so they get loads more and then the other kids get to see them complain it’s not good enough.

And then there’s Christmas dinner. Loads of work and then they’re a misery to eat with. There is never anything remotely celebratory about a meal with my SC.

It’s all a DH problem. He could treat me better. He could exercise some parental authority. He could teach his children not to be ungrateful and horrible about things. But he doesn’t. And their mother doesn’t either (because she thinks that’s a reasonable way to behave about everything - she’s teaching them that it’s always about what you can get from people and that nothing is ever enough).

(And for the evil SM bingo: no. When I met them as young children, I did not think that their mother would actually do the opposite of teaching them manners or that their father would be too lazy and guilt ridden to parent them. I thought it was very little children in the process of learning and a period of change for them, which would be a temporary blip. It just didn’t occur to me that their mother has such abhorrent values or that he would choose to have a relationship, never mind children, with someone who would actually teach her children to be hugely demanding and to make it clear that nothing is ever good enough for them.)

BeyondOurReef · 20/12/2021 09:58

@Just10moreminutesplease

As a stepchild who had two Xmas dinners for a few years, I wholeheartedly agree that Xmas buffets rock!

Can I add in my gripes as an adult stepchild?

*So much rushing around! It’s even harder to spend quality time with my parents/stepparents and siblings/step siblings this year now that we have a baby everyone is dying to do Xmas stuff with.

*My in-laws totally don’t understand. They see it as us spending more time with my family… except I have two sets so one day each means not seeing either my mum or dad and stepmum

  • So many gifts to buy!

Overall though, these are little problems and I’m lucky to have a stepmum and siblings I love.

It’s definitely more stressful and complex.

There are 4 sets of grandparents/stepgrandparents between my husband and I. And no one lives closer than 3 hours from us (in totally different directions mostly). And the separate families for our children from previous relationships.

So it would be logistically tough even if he started from this family as the family and then worked things out together.

My experience has meant that I would never encourage any sense of obligation about seeing me in my children. They grow up and have lives, and will fit me in as suits them. It’s not fair to be all demanding about how they need to visit you at Christmas etc etc.

PeeAche · 20/12/2021 10:23

@motheroflions

Why wouldn't your dh buy them 'proper' presents?

Christmas buffets rock.

To be clear - I think all children should get "proper presents" I'm not being a wicked stepmother 😂 I just never imagined giving the really expensive stuff "from Father Christmas".

When I was a child, I had stocking filler presents from FC. Big pressies came from mum and dad. When I spoke to other kids at school who got PlayStations, Furbys and Baby Borns from Father Christmas I used to wonder why he didn't give me any of that stuff. (Answer: we were poor! 😂 ) So, I just thought I wouldn't be giving out the big stuff from Santa when I became a parent, even if I were loaded.

DH grew up rich and has a totally different opinion from me. If my step kids were my kids, I'd have said my piece on the matter, but they aren't, so I zip it.

But to reiterate again, my DH buys his children whatever he wants and signs it from whomever he wants and I don't go wading in. I certainly do not insist that my step children have no gifts at Christmas. I just want to be very clear on that. 😂

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candlelightsatdawn · 20/12/2021 10:24

@BeyondOurReef 💐 may your Christmas have wine 🍷

PeeAche · 20/12/2021 10:28

I'm reading these bits and bobs from adult step children and vowing to never make my step children journey all over the country just to squeeze us in along with their mum and whatever in law situation they may marry into.

Sounds stressful!

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HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 20/12/2021 10:38

I'm the parent-parent, we postpone our Christmas untill DD is back from her dads, so on Christmas day (if she's with him) we have a buffet. We time it to coincide with whenever my parents are off work so we celebrate together so Dd doesn't tend to have to eat two big meals. We arranged Christmas contact from lunchtime Christmas eve to lunch time boxing day so nobody has to be travelling and gets to enjoy the festive period properly.

Alot of SM do a fab job, Dds dad's partner sounds lovely and has given DD the best gift this year, a new sibling a week before Christmas. Christmases will be more complex for them going forward as they have their own child to think about whereas Dd is the only child / grandchild on my side. I certainly hope his partner doesnt feel the need to cook two big meals going forward.

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 20/12/2021 10:39

*Dd doesn't have to eat two big meals on the same day, or close together.

OssieShowman · 20/12/2021 10:54

Beyond Our Reef
My daughter could have written your post. She is an amazing step mum to 2 ungrateful boys 14 and 16. Spoilt rotten, entitled, chip on shoulder.
Nothing is ever good enough, never used or worn.
She just unwrapped the presents to be given to them, Refund, they might be lucky to get some cash. Don’t like their chances though.

Tigertealeaves · 20/12/2021 11:10

Okay my one is that there is this 'tradition' of going to DP's family every single year for Christmas day. Ex's family are abroad so they never alternated, and it has just stayed like that.

Now that we have a DD, it is assumed we will make that her tradition too.

I do feel a bit like DD and I have just been slotted in to traditions arranged with ex and DSC. I've always felt outnumbered and 'outranked' by DP, his sons and family in my life as a SM and in my own home.

candlelightsatdawn · 20/12/2021 11:17

I certainly hope his partner doesnt feel the need to cook two big meals going forward.

I might add to explain my two dinners comment, my DSC mum defo is horrified by the two dinners thing but DH does it to try and keep normality for DSC and she does love it so it's a tiny bug bare.

How have I not heard of Christmas buffet ?!?

BeyondOurReef · 20/12/2021 11:26

@Tigertealeaves

Okay my one is that there is this 'tradition' of going to DP's family every single year for Christmas day. Ex's family are abroad so they never alternated, and it has just stayed like that.

Now that we have a DD, it is assumed we will make that her tradition too.

I do feel a bit like DD and I have just been slotted in to traditions arranged with ex and DSC. I've always felt outnumbered and 'outranked' by DP, his sons and family in my life as a SM and in my own home.

That is hard. Particularly as you don’t get to feel like you built your own traditions as a family.

Can you agree with your DH that you’ll be alternating christmases with your family? If he wants to take the SC to his family every single year, then yes choosing to have a Christmas separate from the family he’s had with you.

It’s very frustrating when someone won’t recognise that they’ve made choices and that means they need to make changes. The SC have a new family structure now. That means Christmases will be different to how they were when their parents were together.

Luredbyapomegranate · 20/12/2021 11:42

I do love my SCs (honest) but absolutely the best thing was when DP and ex stopped trying to split C’mas and alternated C’mas and NY each. So much more relaxing all round.

Gobsmacked at the double Christmas dinners, that is crazy talk. We are cold cuts all ten way on Boxing Day, though do do fresh roasties

Namealreadyinuse1 · 20/12/2021 11:43

@aSofaNearYou

I have to put up with is the way my DSS reacts to presents 🥴 Always some kind of ingratitude/total disinterest/basically saying "are there more?" I try not to watch for my own sanity because it makes my eye twitch.

But the main thing I put up with, which might be a bit more serious than the tone of the thread really, is never having any flexibility with plans. My family and friends live at the other end of the country from us and DPs family and DSS, and every year it's a very flying visit to my parents and no opportunity to see anybody in my wider family or friends, because we have to be back immediately to see DSS. It's a bit of a deflating sacrifice to have to make every year.

This could be me. Every year I have put a lot of time & effort in to buying gifts, all in personalised sacks only to get no thanks & then to find them in their bedroom not even opened or used. This year they are getting one main gift each and that’s it. And this year, for the second time, my parents are coming for a few days whilst SC are at their mums.
HollowTalk · 20/12/2021 12:10

@BeyondOurReef I wouldn't stay with your partner. He and his family sound really awful. 2022 would be my year of escape.

BeyondOurReef · 20/12/2021 12:33

[quote HollowTalk]@BeyondOurReef I wouldn't stay with your partner. He and his family sound really awful. 2022 would be my year of escape. [/quote]
Ah. 2021 had been an escape of a kind. 2022 I think will be much more final.

I’ve managed to make it so we live separately. And he can Disney dad the SC where it doesn’t affect any of us directly. But still he wants to have Christmas with me and the baby. But only on his terms as arranged around his real family. We are supposed to just be there when it suits him. And I’m supposed to provide Christmas dinner etc for him (because the SC are having dinner at their mother’s).

He’s going to argue with me over the Christmas Day arrangements. He won’t want DS to open any presents or do anything until he’s there. But I not waiting to start my Christmas Day with my children until he’s finished with the SC and dropped them at their mother’s. We are not props in his life.

Bubblty · 20/12/2021 13:45

Them coming to us with brags about the huuuuuge pile of presents their mums boyfriend and family got them when I can only afford £10 and my boots points to spend on them.

Tigertealeaves · 20/12/2021 14:00

@BeyondOurReef yes I might, in future. Most of DD's life has been during the pandemic so we haven't really had a chance to establish a new normal, to be fair.

I do wonder if one year his ex will put her foot down and say she wants to have the kids for Christmas this year! DP has got everything set up to centre around his family, I heard her make a comment to him about that recently.

Thanks for your kind words Smile

candlelightsatdawn · 20/12/2021 14:17

@Bubblty

Them coming to us with brags about the huuuuuge pile of presents their mums boyfriend and family got them when I can only afford £10 and my boots points to spend on them.
You know just to give a SC view on this (I'm also a SM) my sister used to do this and it was born of insecurity because her DM literally did not give a toss. For me watching it, I used to burn up with jealousy at the bragging.

Funnily enough though the small thoughtful presents my mum (her SM gave her) we're often her most treasured. Not like she acted like that at the time and I will say this isn't the rule by any means. Please don't always think your contribution no matter what it is goes unnoticed. I will say that it took 15 years for my SS to admit this.