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His ex wants me to pay maintenance

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Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 04:32

So I'm a new mum and found mums net tonight whilst googling unblocking my baby's nose and generally making baby feel better during his first cold (warning, if you are thinking of sucking on your baby's nose you may end up with a mouthful of another humans snot) and then I saw this step parents page and wondered if someone could help shed some light on another matter for me. I had a quick squiz down the threads but couldn't find anything so I may be looking in the wrong place but anyway...
My dp (I really hope I get the acronyms right but I mean no offence if I don't) was made redundant last week, yay for Mondays, and he hasn't been there long enough to get any payout, I'm not even sure the company has money for payouts anyway. He had a conversation with his ex about child maintenance and basically he has no idea what he is going to do for money if he doesn't get a job quick sharp because he has no savings and he can't claim benefits as we live together and I earn quite a comfy wage so this month is likely the last maintenance payment he'll be making for a while. I'm currently on maternity and had initially planned to have as close to 2 years off as I could, I have savings to cover this and a little freelance side income that is still ongoing on an as and when I feel like it basis. As a household we will be OK for money for the next few months assuming the roof doesn't blow off or something equally expensive happens. I have never gotten involved in his finances and he doesn't get involved in mine. We are completely separate in that respect. We split the bills down the middle and the rest is our own to do as we wish with. I definitely never ever ever got involved in the financial arrangements he had with his ex, I firmly believe there are some circuses you should never have a ringside seat for. However yesterday the ex made it my business by phoning my dp and told him I had to pay her his maintenance and she was getting a court order to make it so because we live together and she knows how much I earn and her child shouldn't be left in poverty when I'm clearly capable of paying (I imagine she's hazarded a guess at what I earn because of what I do and the look of my house and car etc but I can't see how she would know for sure) Now, I know she can't do that and I haven't ruled out giving her money but neither have I ruled it in. It turns out he was paying £450 a month and that's what she wants to keep getting or she'll stop contact. I just wondered if anyone else had been in a similar predicament, his child is 11 and this last year contact hasn't been great (covid) and I know the prospect of him having no contact at all is killing him but I'm swinging backwards and forwards from "cheeky cow, I've worked my bloody arse off in some absolute hell holes for years to have what I have and you're not getting a penny just because I started shagging your ex 4 years ago" to "sh*t I can't let him lose contact, if I don't pay it'll be all my fault he's hurting" Do mothers honestly stop contact with fathers over money? I've heard it but never really believed a mother could do that for that reason and has anyone paid a ransome on behalf of their men folk and how did it work out? There's is no way in hell she'd be getting £450 a month if I did pay, I'd have to go back to work really soon in order for that to happen and I'm definitely not giving up this time with my baby for anyone but then is less than half that going to get him any contact? Or should I just stop worrying about it and absolve myself completely on the grounds of its not actually my business?
I'm rambling now and I'm sorry, part of me needed to vent and part of me wants someone to tell me all this stuff works itself out.

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gottakeeponmovin · 28/01/2021 19:19

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Nutellacoconut · 28/01/2021 19:21

£100 a month for his own child, that's sad. Kids are not that cheap to keep. Is he happy for a low paying job because he can depend on your salary and pay next to nothing for his child? After a set time he will have a claim to your house if you split.

Pleaseaddcaffine · 28/01/2021 19:24

Dfs that just isn't true they arnt married and he doesn't contribute to the mortgage so no he wouldn't.
Also he's on nmw and paying a % that he should be paying. Good on him for getting a job and making sure he can still pay and see his children.
Honestly people are mad on here sometimes.

harknesswitch · 28/01/2021 19:25

£100 a month for his own child, that's sad. Kids are not that cheap to keep. Is he happy for a low paying job because he can depend on your salary and pay next to nothing for his child? After a set time he will have a claim to your house if you split

Better he takes a low paid job and his ex gets £100 a month, than he takes no job and she gets nothing. How much the op earns is nothing to do with his ex.

Daisypaisy2 · 28/01/2021 19:27

[quote gottakeeponmovin]@funinthesun19 morally if OP has enough money to cover them he should be giving it to his first child I think. That's just my opinion. I do agree with the point that she also needs to get a job if she hasn't got one and if she gets benefits she should be able to survive [/quote]
This is wrong. CMS would calculate for 2 children! If I was getting £450 a month and partner ANOTHER child too. I would play ball. Because ring greedy might leave her with the SHORT stick!!

yvanka · 28/01/2021 19:28

Nutellacoconut The man has been paying £450 a month for however many years, it does not cost £900 a month to raise a child. Now he has been made redundant, through no fault of his own. If his ex wants more money then she can increase her part time hours.

LouJ85 · 28/01/2021 19:30

@Nutellacoconut

£100 a month for his own child, that's sad. Kids are not that cheap to keep. Is he happy for a low paying job because he can depend on your salary and pay next to nothing for his child? After a set time he will have a claim to your house if you split.

Wtaf?! The poor guy has been made redundant and has shown very clearly that he is willing to do anything to bring some money in, however little it is compared to his job before. And you question is he "happy" with this? I imagine he's far from bloody "happy" - but ffs give him some credit for doing something to provide for his family! Some men literally cannot win on here. It blows my mind

BillMasen · 28/01/2021 19:38

@Nutellacoconut

£100 a month for his own child, that's sad. Kids are not that cheap to keep. Is he happy for a low paying job because he can depend on your salary and pay next to nothing for his child? After a set time he will have a claim to your house if you split.
Seriously? The poor bloke gets made redundant, goes out and gets any job he can so he can pay at least something, and that’s what you think?

Men can sometimes do nothing right!

BillMasen · 28/01/2021 19:39

@LouJ85 snap Smile

LouJ85 · 28/01/2021 19:50

[quote BillMasen]@LouJ85 snap Smile[/quote]

I'm genuinely astounded! ConfusedGrin

ZackaryQuack · 28/01/2021 20:10

Good on your dp for turning it around for a second time, I can't imagine how stressed he's been this past!!

Shows what a determined man can do when he wants to do right by his children. Something is always better than nothing!!!

bogoffmda · 28/01/2021 20:10

OP- you know you do not have to pay his maintenance that is clear and she can ask but makes no difference.

Does she have a right to be pissed off -absolutely
Will she end up bearing all the costs - yes
Will that probably make her have to tighten her budget - yes

do we know how tight her budget is - no

Is it fair - good question.

He needs to find another job pronto, offer more childcare, help in other ways to look after his child - then yes. He has lost his job but the impact is going to be felt in two homes, some empathy from him to the position she is now in, through no fault of her own, would not go amiss from him rather than yelling at her.

It is galling as the RP, to see the NRP live a lifestyle that does not reflect what they contribute to their child regardless of where that monies come from.

Bollss · 28/01/2021 20:18

@bogoffmda

OP- you know you do not have to pay his maintenance that is clear and she can ask but makes no difference.

Does she have a right to be pissed off -absolutely
Will she end up bearing all the costs - yes
Will that probably make her have to tighten her budget - yes

do we know how tight her budget is - no

Is it fair - good question.

He needs to find another job pronto, offer more childcare, help in other ways to look after his child - then yes. He has lost his job but the impact is going to be felt in two homes, some empathy from him to the position she is now in, through no fault of her own, would not go amiss from him rather than yelling at her.

It is galling as the RP, to see the NRP live a lifestyle that does not reflect what they contribute to their child regardless of where that monies come from.

So what do you suggest? An nrp is only allowed to get with someone poorer than them in case poor ex wife gets upset? Christ. Are you my dps ex??
Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 20:25

:10bogoffmda

OP- you know you do not have to pay his maintenance that is clear and she can ask but makes no difference.

Does she have a right to be pissed off -absolutely
Will she end up bearing all the costs - yes
Will that probably make her have to tighten her budget - yes

do we know how tight her budget is - no

Is it fair - good question.

He needs to find another job pronto, offer more childcare, help in other ways to look after his child - then yes. He has lost his job but the impact is going to be felt in two homes, some empathy from him to the position she is now in, through no fault of her own, would not go amiss from him rather than yelling at her.

It is galling as the RP, to see the NRP live a lifestyle that does not reflect what they contribute to their child regardless of where that monies come from.

Why does he need to find another job pronto? Is McDonald's not good enough? And if not, why?
This is the 3rd job he has had in a year. 2 redundancies has been awful for him and yet still he managed to find another job within 10 days after walking into work last Monday to be told not to bother taking his coat off because there was no company any more.
Everyone has an opinion and I understand this, I may have not used mums net before but I know what a forum is and how one works but I am shocked at the amount of people saying get a job and pay her some money and then his mate comes through with paid hours in a real company that is probably not in any danger of going bust and suddenly McDonald's is not good enough and he to change jobs pronto and pay her more money. Wow... Just wow Sad

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Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 20:30

Oh and nutellacoconut
I would never ever be stupid enough to leave myself wide open and give someone a claim at my home. That's tied up tighter than a camels backside!!!

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excelledyourself · 28/01/2021 20:30

I was hoping maybe @bogoffmda was answering your initial question, and hadn't read your update?

Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 20:32

Today 20:30excelledyourself

I was hoping maybe @bogoffmda was answering your initial question, and hadn't read your update

I really do hope that's true and if so then I apologise for any offence caused.

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LouJ85 · 28/01/2021 20:39

@Justriseaboveitkiddo

Oh and nutellacoconut I would never ever be stupid enough to leave myself wide open and give someone a claim at my home. That's tied up tighter than a camels backside!!!

GrinGrinGrin

Dollyparton3 · 28/01/2021 20:42

Can we all just acknowledge for a teeny tiny second how appalling the mother's rolemodellng to her child is in comparison to the father's?

The message here is "dear 11 year old, if you don't get what you want out of life because you refuse to be responsible and self sufficient, sit back on your laurels and if it goes wrong, manipulate the shit out of it by withholding contact with someone who loves you until you guilt them into giving you what you want. Regardless of whether they can afford it OR if someone else has to pay for it."

That's what we have now in our family and believe me, when that kid hits 20 the manipulation urges and general grasp of life's basic human need of having adult two way relationships is ruined for that kid.

But yes, let's all now question whether the OP should consider a future with a man who's on the receiving end of an ex wife who seems to have no level that she'll stoop below.

bogoffmda · 28/01/2021 21:22

He needs a job because he has 2 children to support - one family ay choose to rely on the DP to provide the monies( yours) and can decide he can take his time, the other will have to cover the shortfall but does not get a say in when he needs to find another job and will continue to provide for their child with no say in when he may decide to get back on the job market.

Would I ever with hold contact for no maintenance ( 2 yrs in my case) absolutely not.

Is she allowed to be pissed off - yes, does he have responsibilites that do not involve becoming a SAHD supported by 2 women.

And yes I started typing earlier today but the same is true.

My EX is on 50% pay , I have told him to stop maintenance and pay his bills. His other EX mother of 1 is demanding her over inflated maintenance - think 3 times what I get for 2 and refuses to take a cut of any description. Her response - well EX1 can pay you for the DCS and you can give that monies to me.

Believe me I get badly behaved EXs and their demands for monies .
However, at the end of the day the EX has a right to be miffed, the OP does not have to pay and the DF to all DCS involved has a responsibility to all his children -be that financially or with childcare tc.

Any job is better than no job in my opinion .

Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 21:28

If we are still talking about my tallest child... He has a job!

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Youseethethingis · 28/01/2021 21:28

@bogoffmda
Gently advise you read the OPs last few comments.

Justriseaboveitkiddo · 28/01/2021 21:31

Gently advise you read the OPs last few comments.

Hope you don't mind but I'm stealing the gently advise you to... For real life Grin

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sassbott · 28/01/2021 21:39

Lordy lord. They’re all out tonight.
Not a chance I would ever have paid a penny of my earnings towards my exp’s children.

It is galling as the RP, to see the NRP live a lifestyle that does not reflect what they contribute to their child regardless of where that monies come from.

I’m basically reading the above as essentially as a RP, if the NRP meets someone financially secure and that affords them a nice lifestyle..it’s galling to see that. Really? Are you my exp’s EW?

She found my lifestyle I’m sure pretty galling from the outside in. It’s called getting a job and paying your own bills. Doesn’t mean her children are entitled to even a penny of my earnings.

You want a nice lifestyle? Get a job.
This thread is astonishing.

sassbott · 28/01/2021 21:42

Op. Good for you for having the degree of financial comfort you have. Enjoy the time with your baby (don’t suck anymore snot tho) Grin

Well done to your DP for getting another job and equally putting her (firmly) in her place.

You owe her not one penny. She messes with contact, take her to court. Ridiculous behaviour

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