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Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 13:19

Hey all, just looking for some advice because sometimes I worry I’m looking at everything from one viewpoint or being biased etc etc and I think sometimes it’s good to stand back and get the viewpoint of other people. This is the second lot of school holidays to occur since meeting my partner. Last year I wouldn’t have said I had major involvement however this year I’d say I have a bit more input regarding the kids (much to the mothers dislike) and obviously this would involve holidays. We took the kids for a long weekend away to a holiday park a couple weekends back (which they loved) as this is what my partners says off would allow and as you can imagine our budgets allowed for. I think more than three days would have been chaos and to be honest with the young ages of the kids I think three days to them is a holiday anyways. Regardless, last week the ex messaged my partner “have you asked about time off in the holidays?” I have to entertain them for six weeks etc. And I’m honestly so unsure of my stance. Her parents have them for her ALOT, something mentioned by the kids themselves so we know they will be helping her out (probably more than they reasonably should) and obviously when my partner was with her he wouldn’t have taken six weeks off to have them with her. But still they are his kids and he doesn’t stop being a parent just because he’s stopped being there. He has a weeks holiday to use but me perhaps selfishly would like a weeks holiday this year like anyone would and so would he but at the same time kids come first. I’m so torn at what he should do. Even if he took the week off it would just be his kids spending time at his mums with him as he hasn’t booked any holidays etc. Fair enough of her to ask but a week before the summer holidays start?! Should he?

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user1487168313 · 31/07/2018 14:21

OP, here is my situation and hopefully it helps you.

Both my DH and myself works full time in a fairly demanding industry. We both have 25 annual leave per year. ExW works according to her schedule at home. They have made the arrangements for DH to have the kids 104 nights a year, hence maintenance is paid based on CMS calculation (i.e. nights spent with us). Generally speaking, we have the kids a full weekend every other week, plus three weeks (either half terms or summer holiday), and either Xmas or New Year. Currently we spent on average 20 annual leaves, and almost all bank holidays with the kids. We do try to something on our own but fairly limited.

I agree that ideally holidays should be split as equally as possible, but only if condition allows. ExW did blame DH as being "terrible father" because he refused to take the kids for half of the summer holiday, but I don't think it's fair as I know for sure if he does so, she will complain as much because the direct consequence is less maintenance payment, or the kids may lose out on some of the luxuries they currently have that are entirely financed by the father e.g. ski holiday, private school etc.

Your partner does need to have a proper discussion with his ex re holiday arrangements. As NRP, he cannot be forced to take the kids more than he can (maintenance payment reflects this). You will find yourself involved more and more with the kids along with this relationship. There are sacrifices to be made, but you can certainly control your input.

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:23

She’s hated me since day one and she would hate me regardless. That’s clear. He has asked. He’s having them weekends and he’s having them evenings in the week so she can get stuff done. My issue isn’t with him having a week off. My issue is with her only mentioning it a week before the holidays start. He’s used his holidays up running about going to other things involving the kids. Eg sports day because she “didn’t want to get the bus with a two year old” and so he had to take time off of the poor kid would have had no one watching her. So sue him for leaving five days for us. Omg what a massive villain. I do sympathise with her having to find entertainment for six weeks. That must be really hard yes. But if she refuses to take them anywhere outside and won’t allow them to do any crafts then she’s kind of limiting herself don’t you think. Then by doing nothing with her children every time we see them it’s “we’ve done nothing we never do anything” and out of guilt he’s now turned into a Disney dad which really isn’t doing anyone any favours. She doesn’t like me because I actually take an interest. They get upset when they have to go home to her which tells me all I need to know. It’s sad

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Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:30

Thankyou so much for your advice. Ideally yes this is what I’d like to sort out. Something like this. I will speak to him about it later. I think everyone thinks I’m the villain here but I feel like the kids would be even less interacted with or engaged were I not around. I’m forever giving him ideas of what to do or where to go etc and things they might like. I do their birthday and Christmas shopping. I’ve done a diary so the less verbal daughter can communicate across what she’s been up to because I know this frustrates her. I’m forever pushing the dad to chase up with the mum about appointments and health visitor checks etc but you can only do so much when she won’t tell him anything. I know people think I am over involved going to parents evening but surely the more people knowing how to help these children the better. The daughters speech has improved ten fold since we’ve been working with her words on weekends and the almost three year old cannot speak yet as he doesn’t get engaged with but I am trying. I am doing my best here.

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MissVanjie · 31/07/2018 14:31

ah you’re one of those experts on parenting and childcare aren’t you. The kind that hasn’t got kids. If it’s such a piece of piss and she’s so neglectful why doesn’t he go for 50:50 and show her how it’s done

Thesearmsofmine · 31/07/2018 14:33

From what you are saying these children are not being clothed properly because mum spends money elsewhere, never do anything outside the house and aren’t interacted with meaning their development is suffering. Is your partner not concerned about this?

LunaTrap · 31/07/2018 14:33

One of the kids is only 2? Might be quite hard for her to juggle a job then with a co-parent who seems surprised to learn that children need caring for during the holidays.

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:34

I’m really not no. But even I would know not to leave an epileptic five year old in the care of a two year old alone. Resulting in three hospital trips now. Which we have found out after by the way. Not at the time. And no I probably wouldn’t find my baby covered in scratches because I left the other two in charge of him in which they proceeded to fight over him and tear him to shreds. That kinda stuff seems obvious to me. But I’m sure their numerous hospital trips and photos of the injuries at least one of them has every time he seems them will verify that so I don’t even have to waste my breath trying to.

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Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:35

She didn’t work before the kids. Between the kids. And she won’t work after. That is abundantly clear. Isn’t it a concept that some people have kids so that they don’t have to. Pretty sure that’s a thing people do.

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LunaTrap · 31/07/2018 14:36

And to be frank, your partner doesn't sound great either. Why would you want to be saddled with all this at I'm presuming a young age and still childfree?

Thesearmsofmine · 31/07/2018 14:38

If all of this is true why has your partner not gone to court for custody of his children?

freetoagoodhome · 31/07/2018 14:39

If she’s so awful and the kids don’t even want to go back there, why doesn’t your OH go for custody?? Is it because no one else has thought of that for him yet? Or because he’d have no annual leave for himself?

FYI he should be providing clothes for them at his place, that’s not a bonus by you or him.

LunaTrap · 31/07/2018 14:39

Well she didn't procreate single handedly did she. Presumably your boyfriend was happy to make babies and have her staying at home with them as little as 2 years ago. And if she is as neglectful as you say he needs to be taking action and seeking advice from SS or a solicitor.

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:41

Yes two of the children’s development is suffering. They have headlcie that mum “forgot to treat” so we will and one smells like wee so we make sure she toilets properly when with us. I even hate saying that. From what the eldest says they are rarely in school as she seems to allow the slightest reason to keep them off. And yes he is concerned. According to her the middle child is epileptic yet her recent sleep study appraised to find nothing so they have done another study and she is refusing to tell him the results. Something which is getting chased up. She feels she owes him nothing. Maybe she doesn’t. And yeah he could be a better parent.
But he doesn’t slag her off EVER in front of the kids which is more than can be said to her. She encouraged the eldest to fabricate that he hit her which resulted in a whole host of issues. He would NEVER. At the end of the day If the mum truly believed it why did she let the other two kids go off with him for the weekend. It’s just a mess.

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MissVanjie · 31/07/2018 14:41

These children sound dangerously neglected. Yet your biggest concern is that your partner should not have to use any of his holidays up in providing them with some respite from the lazy feckless woman who impregnated herself with them?

Dear oh dear

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:44

The eldest one wouldn’t leave her mum. She requests to stay there as he has unfortunately taken on her mothers opinions about her father. The younger one who cries all the time about how she so obviously isn’t her mothers favourite is the daddy’s girl who cries about having to go home. And the one who is also unfortunately left to her own devices a lot it seems. Yet when the mother wants information she probes this poor six year old who probably doesn’t even understand what is being said. It’s not my place to say they’re neglected, but I would definitely say she doesn’t care about the little things no.

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freetoagoodhome · 31/07/2018 14:44

“At the end of the day If the mum truly believed it why did she let the other two kids go off with him for the weekend.”

Likewise, if he and you truly believe the kids are in such danger, why does he grudge having them an extra week, let alone taking them full time??

Thesearmsofmine · 31/07/2018 14:46

How many children are there and how old?

freetoagoodhome · 31/07/2018 14:47

You’ve said her parenting has resulted in 3 trips to A&E. You think that’s “the little things”??

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:47

Because when everything you get told is from a nine year old who is now known to fabricate. About either parent or whoever has most recently told her no. And the mother won’t tell you anything nor verify anything. What would you choose to believe? I can only believe the things I see and what I see is kids whose mother isn’t really that bothered but I don’t see a mother who is neglectful. He knows his ex better than anyone If he truly believes she could be neglectful then he should do something about it.

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LunaTrap · 31/07/2018 14:48

So what has your boyfriend done about this? And given the very young age of one of the kids he was presumably living and making babies with this awful neglectful parent very recently. Is he worth all this stress for you? He really doesn't sound it tbh.

Pussinboots94 · 31/07/2018 14:48

She took one to a and e for a tummy bug last week so yes is hard to know when the kids mention hospital what level of serious we are talking about.
There are three. 8,6,2

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MissVanjie · 31/07/2018 14:49

Which is it? Is she neglectful, or not, pick one

Thesearmsofmine · 31/07/2018 14:49

So far you have mentioned a 9,6 5 and 2 year old and also a baby?

freetoagoodhome · 31/07/2018 14:50

You’ve already mentioned a five year old and a nine year old?!

Do you know anything thats actually going on here?

LunaTrap · 31/07/2018 14:50

Trips to A&E, children left unattended, delayed development, untreated headlice, dirty and smelling of urine. And your boyfriend's biggest issue is whether he has to use a week's annual leave?

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