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Boundaries between boyfriend and his toddler daughter

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violaspring · 15/02/2015 19:50

Hi

A few weeks ago I entered a new relationship with a single father of a young girl (toddler).

I have been reading about step-parenting and some of the issues that can arise. This is partly because I feel I need to be aware of them just in case, but partly because I already have some concerns of my own. Mainly relating to boundaries between father and daughter. I have not yet met his daughter – these are my observations based on what I have seen and heard so far.

Some of the things that have bothered me are:

  • He has (no exaggeration) about 60 photos of his daughter (nobody else in them) around his home, and only a couple with other people in.

  • He calls his daughter “his Princess”. However, when he forgot about one of our dates a few weeks into our relationship and I said I always thought that if a guy really liked you, he would remember things like that and pull out all the stops, he told me that that was ‘fairytale’ thinking.

  • He said to me that Valentines Day was not important to him, but that it was an opportunity to give a nice gift. We exchanged cards and gifts. I knew that Valentines this year would fall on his weekend with having his daughter and I was not expecting him to change that. However, I was secretly disappointed not to have the opportunity to do something special with him. I guessed he would have a quiet evening at home with his daughter. I was wrong. He took his daughter out to dinner in the evening. Not something he normally does. Which makes me think that Valentines DOES mean something to him… if it involves his daughter. When I asked him about this, he again said that it was ‘just an opportunity to do something’. He also made no secret of his plans for Valentines evening amongst those who we know – which made me feel humiliated.

  • His daughter sleeps in his bed, but he says he tries to get her to sleep in her own bed. One time, he said to me that it would be nice if both his two favourite ladies (or something along those lines) could both sleep in his bed. Meaning her and me.

  • He tells me that a ‘beautiful little lady’ is coming to visit him for the weekend (barf), meaning his daughter. He also calls me his little lady.

  • There are two movies that he told me were ‘must sees’ and that I really ought to watch. So I did. Both were about “super dad”s who go to extreme lengths (killing people, willfully inflicting injury on themselves etc) to save their child and/or win the admiration of their child and ex wife. I can’t help but think it was pretty insensitive to get me to sit through BOTH of those movies.

It seems contradictory of him to expect me to take a more ‘alternative’ view of Valentines Day with few ‘fairytale’ expectations (which I generally do not have, though I can’t deny I like to be treated a little special – who doesn’t?), and yet he appears to be bringing up his daughter in a very conventional and princessy manner. For example, he calls her his “Princess”, reads her fairytales at bedtime, he buys her very gendered toys And takes her out to dinner on Valentines.

On top of this, his daughter’s mother occasionally threatens to stop him seeing his daughter. So he is fearful of doing anything that might jeopardise the present arrangements. This makes it difficult for him to present a girlfriend right now, for fear of what the mother could do.

I would be grateful for your thoughts on this. I am scared that there may be some red flags here, but don’t know if I am overreacting. Am I walking into something that I should run from?? Is there anything I can do?
I do not have children of my own. He has said to me that, all being well, he would like to get married and have more children however.

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TerrysNo3 · 15/02/2015 22:40

He loves and adores his daughter, he sounds lovely. If you want to compete with her then you won't win but you might make your own space in his heart if you also accept her space in his.

And FWIW I slept in the same bed as my dad until I was about 12 on the weekends I visited, I missed him so much and was really scared of being alone at night. Children sleeping with their parents is an innocent and normal part of childhood, don't let society tarnish your view of this.

Buttercupsandaisies · 15/02/2015 22:41

Honestly I think those who think this is weird are indeed odd themselves. How sad to see such evil in people. Not everyone is sinister Angry

For the op to think it is bad enough but for other posters to think it off such little evidence is quite scary really

TerrysNo3 · 15/02/2015 22:41

And watch the film A Little Princess, all little girls are princesses don't you know?? Wink Grin

trappedinsuburbia · 15/02/2015 22:41

Op your getting a flaming.
Your boyfriend is normal, he is behaving normally with his dd.
You dont get that because you dont have kids, its not really your fault, but dont try and make it twisted.
You should really date someone with no children, you wont really get it until you have your own.
I mean this kindly and as someone who never 'got it' until i had my own dc.

gotothegymtomorrow · 15/02/2015 22:44

He just sounds like a doting dad who adores his daughter and is trying hard to do the best by her. You sound like you are trying to read into that and like you think the relationship is odd, it sounds like you don't understand the bond between parent and child and that you are jealous. I think that understanding is vital when dating a parent. You probably should not be with this man.

KatieKaye · 15/02/2015 22:46

You are two months into a relationship and expect this man to put you before his DD??

not going to happen.

And there isn't anything identifying on this thread. Like others I suspect you just don't like the responses here.

NeedABumChange · 15/02/2015 22:48

My dad still calls me princess Blush

His DP is normal though and doesn't have an issue with it!

Pantone363 · 15/02/2015 22:49

??

Brandysnapper · 15/02/2015 22:50

In my twenties I wouldn't have understood his behaviour either. I get it now of course!

LineRunner · 15/02/2015 22:52

OP, I don't think you are compatible tbh.

SunshineAndShadows · 15/02/2015 22:54

As others have said, normal dad-daughter behaviour. I doubt he took his two year old for a romantic Valentine's supper Hmm I'm guessing chicken and chips at the local wetherspoons on his contact weekend or similar. Trying to twist that into something 'romantic' is very weird.
Get over yourself OP. It's sad that you're concerned a dad calls his daughter 'princess' and has photos of her. Of course she's the most precious thing to him - why wouldn't she be?

piratebubble · 15/02/2015 22:57

I think those who have said that not everyone understands it until they are a parent themselves are right. However, there's nothing about his behaviour that seems sinister and I think it's sad to suggest so.

As for the films, I think I can guess at least one you are referring to (Taken) and it's just a popular film which a lot of people love. My DH loves it simply because it's a movie he enjoys - no hidden meaning or agenda

CosmicDespot · 15/02/2015 22:59

Some people aren't cut out to be step-parents. Not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but you should be honest with yourself about it. I do think that 'Princess' is a bit shit, and so is 'little lady' and only gendered toys, but co-sleeping, eating in restaurants (no need for it to be a kiddy-friendly themed one (boaky shitty food)), having zillions of photos etc are all perfectly normal.

I can't imagine being forced to live away from my dcs. She is always going to come before you, as she should. That's not a reflection on you, OP.

TurnOverTheTv · 15/02/2015 22:59

Loving the sock puppet post from CountingThePennies Grin

piratebubble · 15/02/2015 23:00

So all in all, stop over analysing things. You're clearly not compatible if you can't accept his DD's role in his life. Find someone without children because this will only build resentment which will ultimately hurt his DD

quietlysuggests · 15/02/2015 23:00

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SurlyCue · 15/02/2015 23:01

My 5yo Son sleeps with me most nights.

We also eat out sometimes

Am i some kind of pervert? Confused

Come to think of it, my dad (male) takes me (female) out for dinner sometimes without his wife (my mother). What an asshole. Hmm

Arsenic · 15/02/2015 23:05

What has caused your concerns about identification OP? Confused

LuxuryTrifle · 15/02/2015 23:07

I agree with ALL the posters ( except the two lone voices of dissent) - there is nothing wrong with what he is doing, and I am afraid to say you are showing an amazing inability to recognise love comes in other forms than just romantic. She is his priority - rightly - and I agree with those that say the red flag here is YOUR need to feel prioritised over his two year old daughter, whom he probably misses enormously and thus prioritises when he has the chance to see her.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 15/02/2015 23:08

To be honest I would dump anyone who called me "his little lady".

BIWI · 15/02/2015 23:10

Welcome to Mumsnet, violaspring, where I think that you will find that you can't get your thread deleted just because you don't like the responses.

Momagain1 · 15/02/2015 23:11

My daddy called me Princess until the day he died. i was his only daughter, and that was his pet name for me. He stopped using it in public by the time I started school. My mom dropped it altogether, but dad used it interchangebly with my given name at home.

He used nicknames for my brothers too. Just the kind of dad he was.

Arsenic · 15/02/2015 23:17

Is your RL name Ms Viola Spring?

Momagain1 · 15/02/2015 23:19

Concerns about identification? As if the situation of a childless woman dating a dad with a small daughter is unique?

Salene · 15/02/2015 23:31

I dated a guy who had a child and I hated it

I was extremely jealous looking back now, I wanted to be No1 and it annoyed me when he put his son 1st. Fast forward to now and I now have a child I totally get it , the love you have for a child compares to nothing else. But back then I never understood and I ended the relationship and moved on as I knew it was morally wrong of me to want him to put me first in front of his child

I think you would be better off dating a man with no children xxx

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