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Boundaries between boyfriend and his toddler daughter

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violaspring · 15/02/2015 19:50

Hi

A few weeks ago I entered a new relationship with a single father of a young girl (toddler).

I have been reading about step-parenting and some of the issues that can arise. This is partly because I feel I need to be aware of them just in case, but partly because I already have some concerns of my own. Mainly relating to boundaries between father and daughter. I have not yet met his daughter – these are my observations based on what I have seen and heard so far.

Some of the things that have bothered me are:

  • He has (no exaggeration) about 60 photos of his daughter (nobody else in them) around his home, and only a couple with other people in.

  • He calls his daughter “his Princess”. However, when he forgot about one of our dates a few weeks into our relationship and I said I always thought that if a guy really liked you, he would remember things like that and pull out all the stops, he told me that that was ‘fairytale’ thinking.

  • He said to me that Valentines Day was not important to him, but that it was an opportunity to give a nice gift. We exchanged cards and gifts. I knew that Valentines this year would fall on his weekend with having his daughter and I was not expecting him to change that. However, I was secretly disappointed not to have the opportunity to do something special with him. I guessed he would have a quiet evening at home with his daughter. I was wrong. He took his daughter out to dinner in the evening. Not something he normally does. Which makes me think that Valentines DOES mean something to him… if it involves his daughter. When I asked him about this, he again said that it was ‘just an opportunity to do something’. He also made no secret of his plans for Valentines evening amongst those who we know – which made me feel humiliated.

  • His daughter sleeps in his bed, but he says he tries to get her to sleep in her own bed. One time, he said to me that it would be nice if both his two favourite ladies (or something along those lines) could both sleep in his bed. Meaning her and me.

  • He tells me that a ‘beautiful little lady’ is coming to visit him for the weekend (barf), meaning his daughter. He also calls me his little lady.

  • There are two movies that he told me were ‘must sees’ and that I really ought to watch. So I did. Both were about “super dad”s who go to extreme lengths (killing people, willfully inflicting injury on themselves etc) to save their child and/or win the admiration of their child and ex wife. I can’t help but think it was pretty insensitive to get me to sit through BOTH of those movies.

It seems contradictory of him to expect me to take a more ‘alternative’ view of Valentines Day with few ‘fairytale’ expectations (which I generally do not have, though I can’t deny I like to be treated a little special – who doesn’t?), and yet he appears to be bringing up his daughter in a very conventional and princessy manner. For example, he calls her his “Princess”, reads her fairytales at bedtime, he buys her very gendered toys And takes her out to dinner on Valentines.

On top of this, his daughter’s mother occasionally threatens to stop him seeing his daughter. So he is fearful of doing anything that might jeopardise the present arrangements. This makes it difficult for him to present a girlfriend right now, for fear of what the mother could do.

I would be grateful for your thoughts on this. I am scared that there may be some red flags here, but don’t know if I am overreacting. Am I walking into something that I should run from?? Is there anything I can do?
I do not have children of my own. He has said to me that, all being well, he would like to get married and have more children however.

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ginmakesitallok · 15/02/2015 19:52

He loves his daughter? Why is that a red flag? You just sound jealous.

NerrSnerr · 15/02/2015 19:55

Sounds like he's just trying really hard to be a good dad which is a good thing. It's right that she should be the centre of his world. You sound very jealous.

violaspring · 15/02/2015 19:55

Let me be clear. I said, I "don’t know if I am overreacting". I do not expect to be his number one priority. But it concerns me if he chooses to undertake activities with his daughter that are generally understood to be reserved for boyfriend-girlfriend type relationships.

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Salemthecat · 15/02/2015 19:55

I don't want to be mean but to me it sounds as though you are jealous of their relationship. Are you?

The things you are describing sound a lot like the relationship I had with my dad (although my parents are atill together). I still get on with him very well. My grandmother also used to call me her princess or her baby even when I was an adult helping look after her. So to me, it doesn't seem weird. What was your relationship like with your dad? Is it perhaps just a different style of parenting/interacting with children than you're used to?

I'm sure more knowledgable and insightful people will come along soon but that's just what popped into my head as I read your post.

ScrambledEggAndToast · 15/02/2015 19:55

He does sound a little OTT but I don't say that as a criticism. Have you read all the threads on here where the dad's don't bother with their kids at all? I know what I'd rather for my DS.

Branleuse · 15/02/2015 19:55

i think the way he treats you is entirely seperate to how he treats his daughter, but i do think that if youre feeling weirded out by him already, then it really doesnt bode well. I wouldnt say red flags. I just think its incompatibility

LIZS · 15/02/2015 19:56

Did you know about the dd when you got together? Sorry but you sound rather jealous. She is clearly his priority. If you want to have exclusive attention you either fit around his non-contact time or accept that it isn't a relationship you could buy into and move on. Agree his suggestion for you all to share a bed is a bit odd though.

NerrSnerr · 15/02/2015 19:57

What activities is he doing that you think should be boyfriend/ girlfriend stuff? Is it the co sleeping and going for dinner? Would you worry if her mum was doing these things?

AuntieMaggie · 15/02/2015 19:58

Agree you sound jealous. Nothing wrong with his behaviour except forgetting your date and tbh after only a couple of months it's none of your business how he treats his daughter.

violaspring · 15/02/2015 19:58

I am grateful for your thoughts but would prefer not to be accused of being jealous.

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MMcanny · 15/02/2015 19:58

If this is serious, you really need to end this relationship now. You are only a couple of months in and are this jealous of a two-year-old? Just tell him what you wrote here and you will be dumped immediately. You need to move on to someone who has no kids. Sorry.

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fattymcfatfat · 15/02/2015 20:00

honestly you sound jealous of his daughter Confused
I dont see any problem with this?
as for valentines day why shouldnt he take his dd out? it was his weekend which you were well aware of.
and of course he treats her as if she is more important than you, she is. when you are a parent your children are the most important things in your life.

violaspring · 15/02/2015 20:00

"What was your relationship like with your dad? Is it perhaps just a different style of parenting/interacting with children than you're used to?"

Without saying too much, I think you have hit the nail on the head here, Salemthecat. He and I come from different cultural background (his the more conventional one) so I think that is part of it.

I'm amused that so many assumptions have been made about me already here, without knowing anything about me.

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PoppySausage · 15/02/2015 20:01

We had a valentines meal for 3 with our daughter, have mostly pics of her about, my niece sleeps in my sisters bed, dd has a toy cooker, she is precious to us. All normal and show a close relationship. If you don't like it get out now as there is no way you should try and change it.

TheMumsRush · 15/02/2015 20:01

I think you need to ask yourself if it's something you can put up with? If it were me I'd walk away as to me that sounds rather ott and that would grate on me.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 15/02/2015 20:01

Man loves daughter shocker!

Tbh anyone who calls little girls "princess" would make me feel a but queasy but the fact he calls you, an adult woman "little lady" would have me running.

Find another man. This ones not for you and there are literally billions of fellas out there to choose from.

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 15/02/2015 20:02

He sounds like a great dad!

HyperThread · 15/02/2015 20:03

OP am I correct in understanding you don't have any children of your own? Once you have your own children you will understand his behaviour.

He sounds like how I would be if I was a single mum. I can never love anyone as much as I love my child. Sorry, not even a really really exceptional partner.

You sound like you can't comprehend how much a parent can love their child. How is your relationship like with your own parents?

Mixtape · 15/02/2015 20:03

How old are you? The reason I ask is I know quite a few younger dads (under 25) who are not with the mother of their child and this sounds typical. They really idolise their children, I think to compensate for not being around as much as they feel they should. But this is based on working with an organisation supporting Young people, so a lot
Of them have had difficult backgrounds, and not the best parents in some cases...again it is compensating.

None of this might apply OP, it just sounded very familiar to me when i read it!

Salemthecat · 15/02/2015 20:03

Think your reply sums it all up for me OP. It is okay to be jealous - we all are some point. It isn't a criticism (not from me anyway!).

You need to figure out what it is you're feeling and then decide whether you want to continue the relationship. To me, it seems as though you don't like how much of the attention is diverted from you into her. Again, not a criticism, but you might be happier starting a relationship with someone who doesn't have a child that you need to "compete" with.

Mixtape · 15/02/2015 20:03

Not had the best parents, I mean.

GruffalosGirl · 15/02/2015 20:03

His relationship with his daughter all sounds like a normal father daughter relationship. The only photos I have in my house are of my kids and I'm sure I'd have more up if I didn't get to see them every day. And 2 is still pretty young, our nearly 4yr dd still comes into our bed most nights.

It's fine to not be happy if he's forgetting dates with you, depending on the circumstances. Feeling humiliated by his valentine night with his dd seems an overreaction if you knew you wouldn't see him. Expecting a grown woman to be less into a fairy tale is completely different than how you treat a toddler.

Bottom line is he's a father and you are a new relationship, she is going to be his number one priority and that's how it should be. If that's not something you are able to cope with then that's ok and you're not compatible but trying to change that would not be ok. You need to think if this is really what you want.

TurnOverTheTv · 15/02/2015 20:04

'He took her out for dinner in the evening' I'm sure this wasn't a candlelit meal at 8pm? More like tea at 6pm at a kid friendly place. My husband co sleeps when I'm not there, and would also take her out to eat, not unusual at all.

gamerchick · 15/02/2015 20:05

You do sound jealous -sorry.

You're also (to me) seemingly trying to insinuate there is something sinister going on. There really isn't going on what you've said. He's just a dad putting his toddler daughter before his new girlfriend and that's okay.

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