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Honestly, this board is not a nice place

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TheMumsRush · 10/09/2014 18:23

Sick of goady fuckers, trolls and people coming to bash SM from all angles! Some of the "advise" is shocking. If you try it's "step back, not your kids!" But if you don't it's "you're cold and the kids know it". And god forbid you just have a rant that you can't in RL. I see the same posters with the same SM hating shite!

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ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 10:18

Preens!?

Are you alright Wakey?

NickiFury · 11/09/2014 10:21

Once and for all wakey do you think that your position of withdrawing entirely because the situation will not change is helpful for the majority of posters on this board?

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 10:21

I'm flattered at the thought that nicki has read all my posts - I'm not sure I deserve that level of attention!

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 10:23

Sorry Nicki, you've lost me - "withdrawing entirely"? Are you suggesting I leave the board?

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 10:24

wakey give over goading for heavens sake!

nicki I am not sure I understand how anyone can withdraw to the extents that some posters claim they do! I am also fairly sure it is not healthy for anyone in the long term. do people really do this in rl or is it just for show on here?

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 10:26

You spend a lot of time advocating 'withdrawing' as an approach to SP difficulties Wakey. I can see that that is what Nicki is refering to.
Can't you? Really?

NickiFury · 11/09/2014 10:27

Confused I'm quite concerned about your inability to read and comprehend my posts. However I have noticed this is a regular tactic of yours, to start goading in order to divert attention from the questions you don't want to answer and points you do not wish to address.

Why on earth would you imagine I am suggesting you leave the board?

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 10:31

nicki I am not sure I understand how anyone can withdraw to the extents that some posters claim they do!

I wonder that too on some (extreme) threads. I think sometimes people have tried so long they don't know when to quit. It isn't at all easy.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 11/09/2014 10:35

wheresthelight let's put that one down to a misunderstanding of your intent due to reading what you had written and not what you meant :)

I have posted many times I strongly believe that irrespective of the circumstances that resulted in their being a step parent involved in a child's life ALL the adults should be amicable for the sake of the child. from my experience of this board and the odd post that appears in relation to step families om other boards, it is often the mother who is said to be resentful

Well, I agree that all the adults should try to be amicable when it is in the best interests of the children, it isn't always. However, I disagree with your statement that 'it is often the mother who is said to be resentful'. I think resentment of the situation is fairly well split between the step mum and the mum (occasionally the dad or step-dad but this is much less common on these boards) with both parties often having a very good reason to be resentful!

there is one particular poster who is very vocal about their feeling that dad's new girlfriend/wife and mum's new boyfriend/husband has no right to contact/input on their child's life

There is always 'one poster' who bangs on about something, who has an agenda, who is full of shite - it's annoying, but you can't stop people having twatty opinions! Unfortunately :)

I find that so very sad. surely the more adults who love and care about a child and their happiness the better?

Absolutely. Some parents need to understand that children have endless love and that loving a step parent and being happy with them doesn't mean they love them any less, that it's NOT a competition. However, the nrp and the step parent need to not be Disney Family as well. Or all visa versa!

It's difficult because the vast majority of ex's are ex's for a damn good reason so it's rarely going to be 'easy' even if no one else is involved, throw in another adult or two & it's rare that it's all going to be lovely - unfortunately. All we can do is try our best to support whoever is posting the best we can with a combination of 'straight talk' and 'sympathy' and listening to THEM and not projecting.

dss has had some major anxiety around moving up to secondary school. he has bottled it and refused to speak to his mum and step dad or his dad but instead sat cuddling me last night sobbing his heart out about it. knowing his mum she will flip her lid but surely she should be grateful that he opened up to someone and that now as a family, however extended, we should all be working towards reassuring him and making sure that he learns to deal with the anxiety and move forward?

It's lovely that he felt he could talk to you. Children often feel it's easier to talk to someone who isn't so invested in getting the 'right' answer, there's less pressure to protect your feelings. Is there any need for his Mum to know he's spoken to you like this? It's only natural she will be hurt that he felt he could talk to you and not her (even if you had been a friends mum or a teacher).

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 10:37

but how do you "quit" being part of a family? you can't quit being a mum or a dad when the going gets tough, I know as a step parent the feelings and dynamics are different but surely you just work differently to achieve some degree of harmony?

we have had some issues over the last few months in terms of me feeling very resented and alienated, I got some very useful advice on how to deal with my feelings but the withdraw from it all advice seemed so cruel.

it's not the kids fault they are in these situations and I think all to often as adults we spend too much time trying to fix things and not enough time asking the kids what they want.

I posted recently about feeling odd about hugging the dsc's and was gobsmacked at the abuse from a couple of posters for being cols and unwelcoming when I had clearly discussed that the kids also felt awkward. the best advice was talk to the kids.

I think where the kids are old enough they do need to be part of the solutions we look for

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 10:42

but how do you "quit" being part of a family? you can't quit being a mum or a dad when the going gets tough, I know as a step parent the feelings and dynamics are different but surely you just work differently to achieve some degree of harmony?

Some of the more bizarre 'withdrawing' behaviours sound even more damaging for all those involved than a divorce would be though (horrible comparison to have to try to make).

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 10:43

Ah, sorry, you mean disengaging?

Actually, yes, I think that if posters have got to the point where their quality of life is being affected then emotionally stepping back and disengaging from the situation will help them.
Obviously it depends how severe the problem, and how invested the stepmum is, but yes, I believe a lot of blended family issues can be eased through the SM disengaging.

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 10:44

ah yes the nrp being the Disney family, my dp was very guilty of this - we must do something expensive and exciting every time the kids are here or they won't want to come. drove me barmy!!

my view was that was a sure-fire way to end up with his exw hating us and causing all sorts of long term problems. I have no objections to doing the odd nice thing but also felt it was important that they saw that the boring stuff like tidying their rooms, food shopping etc had to be done here too.

I was gobsmacked to read on a thread a few weeks back where a mum posted that she expected the nrp yo drop all the normal day to day stuff and only do fun and exciting things when dc were there.

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 10:48

I fully agree arsenic it is exactly the sort of posts that advocate withdrawing that I disagree with.

divorce can often be better emotionally for all parties but still feels very extreme

NickiFury · 11/09/2014 10:52

Wakey you may have noticed some rather more positive discussion again on the thread, so how about letting things progress down that route? Your views are well documented and have been stated repeatedly on this thread it seems unnecessary to continue such a negative discussion.

Just to clarify though, you are of course free to continue posting, I wouldn't want you to misunderstand that seeing as you were having problems understanding my posts before.

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 10:52

In that situation, whereis the SM resentment often stems from the RP reasoning - when she wants the NRP to do the "fun stuff" because they (the RP) is always doing routine stuff with the DC, and the RP thinks the DCs deserve a treat.
It implies that the NRP is a leisure activity rather than a valuable part of the DCs life.

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 11:00

I think your phrasing of sm resentment is dangerous wakey, it isn't necessarily resentment just a lack of understanding behind the dynamic wanted. if the rp explained this to dad/sm then I can't see why a compromise couldn't be reached.

kids need to know that the nrp household isn't a holiday camp, if the parents were still together time is found to do fun things.

someone gave me some fantastic advice when dd was born and I was tearing myself apart trying to keep the house running, dd looked after, packing to move, dog sorted, mil looked after and carers and equipment sorted etc - they said the housework will always be there, babies grow up and you can never go back.

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 11:35

If a stepmum is posting on here that she is angry/upset/irritated that her DSC mum expects her home to be wall-to-wall entertainment then isn't that resentment?
And how useful is the advice - you should ask your DSC mum why she wants you to do this?. I may be cynical based on my own experience, but I tend to assume that if someone is posting on MN, it's because the common-sense approach has failed.

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 11:39

there is a world of difference between being irritated and resentful.

and common sense is the greatest oxymoron ever. quite often the most obvious solution is the last one considered

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 12:01

there is a world of difference between being irritated and resentful.

There is. Which is why so many SMs feel attacked when they post about their irritation, only to be told they are dreadful people for resenting their DSC. Do posters have to clarify that they don't resent their dHs previous life, but right now, the situations they find themselves in is irritating/frustrating them?

I take your point about common sense - although it is grating when the only advice you get is other people stating (what you think is) the bleeding obvious, particularly if you have posted a backstory in previous threads.

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 12:05

Which is why so many SMs feel attacked when they post about their irritation, only to be told they are dreadful people for resenting their DSC.

I honestly can't recall seeing this much.

Is it a historical thing?

wheresthelight · 11/09/2014 12:06

but not everyone has seen or read those threads and ot is considered bad form ime to reference a posters previous thread

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 12:12

particularly if you have posted a backstory in previous threads.

It adds to the 'impenetrable club' air on the board if posters have to be familiar with all the backstories to contribute.

WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 12:57

I genuinely hadn't thought of it like that arsenic - I'd always considered SP board a place where, like teens, SN and others, where a community of regular posters who know each other's situations support each other.

Perhaps a thread similar to the "stately homes" thread would be more appropriate - where regular posters can chat to each other without having to share their back story every time?

ArsenicFaceCream · 11/09/2014 13:15

Perhaps a thread similar to the "stately homes" thread would be more appropriate - where regular posters can chat to each other without having to share their back story every time?

Yes that's a very good idea. Then it's clear that it is a 'support quiche' and anyone joining has some reading to do Smile. Yet, at the same time, the general SP board remains accessible to all.