F1 2024 thread 2

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Continuation thread

Part 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/sports/4980705-f1-2004-watchalong-thread?page=10&reply=136230297

I guess this is what comes when you sell the rights to people who care more about the entertainment value rather than the sport itself.

@LookItsMeAgain thanks for the link.

It’s interesting the case is in the USA. My knowledge is limited but I thought the Formula One Management company and other F1 companies were UK based.

I know the ownership is complicated (smoke and mirrors) but I wonder what jurisdiction US courts have over F1 management. I assume having 3 races in the US is a factor and they could be used as leverage.

Liberty Media's main address is Denver, Colarado, so it's definitely US based. I have no idea if the F1 division is UK registered

Liberty Media the parent company is US based but a quick check shows their F1 companies are registered in the UK with Companies House.

Liberty Media (not one of the subsidiary companies) appears to be the area that the Justice Department is investigating because they refused to allow Andretti F1 become the 11th team on the grid. I actually understand that FOM (one of the subsidiary companies in Liberty Media) was happy to allow Andretti join the grid but Liberty refused (I think that was what happened) so they are clearly using all available legal avenues open to them. I don't know if I'd want to join the grid if it took this much effort to be honest.

@LookItsMeAgain thank you, that makes sense. Stefano Domenicali has always struck me as a fair person and F1 is in his genes, but I think he is the FOM CEO so could be overruled by Liberty Media CEO/Board.

My understanding is that Newey wanted a level of autonomy that Ferrari weren’t willing to give it. AM on the other hand will happily throw money at Newey to improve their position and, as an engineer, that’s an ideal place to be.

Roll on the end of the month when all things F1 start again! we're kicking our heels a bit when there is no F1 to amuse us at weekends, it's like.. so there's no F1 what are we going to do this weekend then 😂

Race weekend - it’s been a long summer break.

Just watching the drivers press conference, they have slightly changed the format so there are 2 x 3 drives. So far all the questions are for Max, apart from Tom’s openers. It must be so frustrating for the other drivers.

Just to break it to you - while we're just back from this break - there will be another 4 week break after the Singapore GP. ... what are we going to do then?????????????????????

If anyone ever visits Dusseldorf, I urge you to go to Classic Remise. Amongst other things, the SAFETY CAR!!!! I bloody love the safety car. Here I am with it 😁

No real surprise but Jack Doohan has signed for Alpine. So he will partner Gasley.

That leaves 3 seats

• Mercedes who look like taking Kimi Antonelli
• Stake/Audi/Sauber - ?
• VCarbRB likely to be Liam Lawson or DR. Unless Yuki or one of them gets the RB drive instead of Perez.

Good god really??? Don’t ever remember that happening before!

Norris and Verstappen on the front row. Some of the cars looked very squirrelly with the high winds on track.

Norris record for wins from pole hasn't been great, let's hope tomorrow he can break that streak. It's going to be windy again tomorrow and maybe some rain that could spice things up.

And Alex Albon disqualified from qualifying for an illegal floor. He will start from the pit lane. What a painful weekend for Williams 😥

I think there should be penalties that are applied to the Team for infringements such as deducting points from the team or a financial penalty for things like what happened to Albon, rather than disqualifying him from quali entirely.

Also for example if the driver is found to do something dangerous - such as speeding in the pit lane - 100% down to the driver so the driver should feel the penalty there.

I just don't think the current penalise everyone system is fair or works well.

Seems to be lots of whining going on and finger pointing currently, radio messages for the sake of race control
a bit more of suck it up needed

Good race by Norris. Didn't put a foot wrong after lap one. Ferrari's looked much better in race pace today after looking off the pace in FP and qualy.

Very happy with that result! Really enjoyed the whole race

Good result for Lando. If McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes maximise their potential for the rest of the season then both title races could go down to AD not just the constructors.

Its a long shot but theoretically possible.

imagine that if it did! someone said that if Lando won every race from now on and Max are 2nd, Max would still win the WDC! as you say we need the other teams to up their game to keep Max down the order a bit - we can but pray.. well Lando fans will - just watching Max and Charl in the cool down room, Charl looking really down when Max confirmed that Lando won by 22 seconds.. poor guy, I like him!

www.williamsf1.com/posts/fd43d928-0914-42ff-b9ee-394342064dc4/williams-racing-team-statement

Logan's been replaced. I think it was expected he'd go but I thought it would be at the end of the season.

Just come on to post that!
Who's the Franco guy replacing him?
Not totally surprised.

Not sure, I didn't recognise his name but apparently he's from the Williams Driver Academy and in F2 at the moment.

Tough for Logan, but quite frankly with the cost cap no team could sustain the level of costs of his crashes were generating. James Vowels is showing real leadership. He is prepared to make tough decisions but has also been supportive of Logan.

I am slightly surprised that Kimi Antonelli wasn’t’ given the drive as Williams have Merc engines and it would give him experience before a final decision is made on Lewis’ replacement.