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lottiejenkins · 02/03/2008 23:23

I found this article today..........I thought it was very moving,,,, what a decision that lady made... dont think i could do it though!
www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/you/article.html?in_article_id=522925&in_page_id=1908

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PipinJo · 13/03/2008 13:19

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Taliesintraction · 13/03/2008 14:38

Hi pipin,

Yes I have no idea what it is like to be you.

I have however had rather a lot of experience of scraping with LEA's, Health Authority and feeling sometimes that we meet childrens needs despite rather than with professional intervention and help. You are not alone in that.

I am sorry if you think it feels like i am preaching it's not what I am trying to do

Now, Lets agree we will not always agree, dump this bloody JH issue and actually get on to something else.

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lottiejenkins · 14/03/2008 12:15

Am so glad MN have delted those unpleasent and unnecesary posts!!

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2shoes · 14/03/2008 12:37

thankyou mn hq

jonkat · 14/03/2008 16:54

FioFio,

Just to clarify for you and everyone here, I do not currently write on any other SN forum and, to the best of my memory, I never have.

jonkat

jonkat · 14/03/2008 17:42

PipinJo,

I resonded to your personal attack on me and my character and MN have deleted my posting. I have complained about your attack on me to MNHQ but, regretably, your posting continues to be displayed.

In your posting you said that I am "just out to make a £££ as its good money" so I think it fair that I tell you a little about myself and my financial status.

I am financially independant by which I mean that I do not need any more money for the rest of my life and my assets will fully secure all my kids, SN or otherwise, for the duration of their lives such that they will not need money from any other source, they will all be as financiaLLY independant as I am, despite the huge costs of SN care.

That being the case, which you did not know when you attacked me, it is absurd to suggest that I'd choose to lead the life of an SN 'parent' for the sake of adding a fostering allowance to my income.

Please, one and all, remember that I did not bring money into this thread, I find it rather distastful in fact, and please also remember that am not 'bragging' in any way, I am responding to a slur which I find exceptionally unpleasant.

What I do, I do for the kids.

I hope you can find the grace to offer me an apology.

jonkat

lottiejenkins · 14/03/2008 18:29

Jonkat. The reason your posts were removed (and i was one of those who complained} were because you were accusing other mn's of being liars!! I am glad your posts were removed.. MN's headquarters obviously know which posts to delete and which not too!!

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jonkat · 14/03/2008 19:12

lottiejenkins

FYI I have asked MN to advise me as to what word they would like me to use to describe 'knowingly and repeatedly repeating a falsehood', an activity which has taken place on this board but I'll not name those involved in case someone sees that as being a personl attack. For me, I just call it telling the truth.

Perhaps you'd like to offer your advice. I'd like to know as I only know one such word.If there's a more acceptable and accurate alternative then I'd be perfectly happy to use it.

jonkat

yurt1 · 14/03/2008 19:16

Jonka why are you posting on here.

It's a support section for parents of children with SN.

You're not getting support. You're not providing support.

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jonkat · 14/03/2008 19:27

PipinJo

I am so glad you're sorry, apology accepted.

For me, that marks the end of issue ?

jonkat

jonkat · 14/03/2008 19:30

yurt1

You're right I'm not seeking support here.

In answer to your question though I am posting here to offer support to the mother of a child with SN, Julia Hollander.

jonkat

needmorecoffee · 14/03/2008 19:46

well, surely she can post? I find it rather creepy to be honest when non-SN people hang out here, or social workers or what have you.
It puts me off posting and getting support for my child who i look after 24 hours aday.

needmorecoffee · 14/03/2008 19:48

and the comment about finding one's child revolting made me feel physically sick.

Taliesintraction · 14/03/2008 19:51

Oh for crying out loud you pair!!!

Pippin I an not sure where this comes from but I can tell you Jonkat does not think that SN kids are "revolting". Neither does he think that all SN parents think that way.

I am not going to say more about Jonkat he is big enough and certainly ugly enough to say that for himself.

As to deleting posts where he said people were lying.

Look people if we took all the personal insult throwing out of this thread it would be about half the size, and many of those personal attacks were directed at myself and Jonkat.

It is not feeling very good for me though.

It seems that anyone can call me anything and get away with it, should I snap and give as good as I get then the post will be deleted.

Typical is the smears of Jonkat about foster carers and money, don't not tell the truth now.

It was said on here that Jonkat only has SN kids for the cash and that s/he gets a tidy pot of money for doing so.

If it were true that foster care is money for old rope why is the country not overun with Tanias and Jonkats.

Why at last estimate was there an 11,000 shortfall in foster care families in the UK if it's such a good job and such easy money.

But Pipin on the personal level, don't ever feel any guilt or beat yourself up about your kids.

I can only speak for myself but my SN child is my pride and joy, just like my other children, and I rejoice in what he can do not grieve for what he cannot.

2shoes · 14/03/2008 19:53

nmc did you get that man to move his car?

jonkat · 14/03/2008 19:55

needmorecoffee

You're right, I'm sure Julia could post here however, given the highly personal attacks on her I think she's wise not to.

BTW, I am an'SN' person, you may have missed the posting where I said so.

In the mean time, while Julia is being, as I see it, attacked, on the basis on nothing more than a couple of highly edited newspaper articles I can't see anything wrong in someone who knows all the people involved and the situation offering her support in her absense.

jonkat

2shoes · 14/03/2008 19:55

oh ffs.

Taliesintraction · 14/03/2008 19:58

Yeah 2 shoes

I thought this was calming down....

yurt1 · 14/03/2008 19:59

Does Julia Hollander come here to gain support? No. Perhaps you could support her in other more useful ways??

I'm not sure she'd have that much to share on here as she hasn't had to do things like fight for disabled facilities grants (mine was refused today). She decided she wasn't up to it.

I spent last night in a 4 star hotel (paid for by work). Nice swim in the pool, lovely dinner, pleasant company.

I recommend real life over coming on a board purely to bait regular member. Far better for one's health.

2shoes · 14/03/2008 19:59

so mr t how is the weather where you are?

TotalChaos · 14/03/2008 19:59

this is going round and round in pointless and aggravating circles.

Talies - had your first posts said you were a parent to a child with SN, rather than deliberately cultivating an aura of mystery, I think you would have been met with a friendlier reception on here.

needmorecoffee · 14/03/2008 19:59

I thought you were a part time fosterer? Must have missed that.
Friend of mine does short term and respite fostering for SN kids. She told me she has no idea what it feels like inside when its your own child cos there's no emotional involvment. Told me to get dd adopted

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