Dla wait time part 2 2022

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Set new one up as old thread ended @April202 @Nicky80catri @Leaf1216 can't remember any other names

I didn’t rely on them calling her school.
you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying. And taking everything in literal terms.

I’m pointing out that if they Carried out the correct process, ie read the forms/evidence in full then less people would have to go to appeal.
isn’t it obvious that they’re not being thorough enough with the checks when they don’t give hrm to a child who cannot walk despite there being concrete evidence of this and despite parents clearly saying this on the form.

@Legofigure Thank you, I will look into this. So far, DS's struggles don't seem to be impacting him academically, but he has definite and clear deficits socially. He doesn't really have any friends in his class (although DS would say everyone is his friend), he gets bullied in the playground and is often on his own at breaks/lunch. We went through a phase in Year 1 where DS didn't want to attend school as he was so upset and anxious about what was happening in the playground.

EHCPs are about much more than academic ability and you can have an EHCP and be academically able. It sounds like one should have been applied for in Y1.

the school will get extra funding but they’ll have to find a support teacher for each child who requires 1 on 1. Which isn’t an easy task and if a child is able to go to school, sit and learn and follow rules and make progress then it’s unlikely they’ll need it.
My daughter was given an ehcp within 6 weeks of starting school because she literally could not attend without it. She was like a 1 year old in terms of development when she started and still at 9 doesn’t know how to get from the classroom to the toilet or to lunch on her own. She also has no speech.
ehcp is a last resort and where other therapy’s can be used they usually are.

you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying

No, I’m not. I’m just saying even if they did read everything there is no guarantee you would have been awarded HRM because if there was no one would have to go to appeal.

then less people would have to go to appeal.

you never mentioned less people having to appeal until your last post.

isn’t it obvious that they’re not being thorough enough with the checks…

I never said they were, so who knows what you are posting this for.

Which isn’t an easy task and if a child is able to go to school, sit and learn and follow rules and make progress then it’s unlikely they’ll need it.

This isn’t true if you are only considering academic progress. EHCPs are about much more than academics. Social and emotional development is just as important. A child who manages ‘fine’ at school because they masks can get an EHCP. A child who is academically able but struggles socially can get an EHCP.

Oh and a child who needs ongoing therapies such as OT and SALT in order to manage ‘fine’ at school is likely to meet the criteria for an EHCP, and the therapies should then be in F as they are educational provision.

No offence but are you like this in real life? Do you cross examine everything anyone ever says?.
if you haven’t got anything helpful to add then please stop responding to my posts. My
posts are MY opinion and I find it highly annoying and offensive that everything I ever post, you jump in and pick it apart. It’s starting to become quite bullying.

If they went by that criteria every time at least 50% of all British children would be eligible for an ehcp. Even neurotypcial children struggle to attend and cope in school.
you don’t need asd or adhd or the like to struggle with your emotions and social skills.
a child living in poverty, or a child who’s very shy can have a battle at school too.

I haven’t been personal to you so there’s no need for you to be either. My posts are not offensive, it is not bullying. You aren’t the only person I have replied to. If you mean do I correct incorrect information I hear in real life then yes, otherwise people have the wrong information. This is an open forum and you cannot dictate where or what I post.

You were the one carrying it on. I think you will find I originally responded answering your post, including the statistics when you asked how likely you are to be successful.

Are EHCP's only given if the child needs 1-1 support e.g. a TA? School was quick to tell me that DS wouldn't be eligible for funding and they wouldn't apply for any, whilst telling me at the same time he had indictors of autism and ADHD...

Our psychologist has said DS may benefit from further support from an Occupational Therapist to support with any sensory needs and a sensory box at school. She also observed his distractibility just in the hour assessment, climbing on furniture, looking out of the window, pacing around the room. School has also concurred that DS is very distractible and has trouble staying on task. His emotional issues have also meant he has had meltdowns in the past and he has also ran out of his lessons, with a teacher then needing to go and find him. DS, however, is very intelligent so can easily excel in exams he is given. His main areas of struggle are socially, in the playground, where he is either alone, being bullied or playing with younger children. Next year, he will be with the older children in the playground and I am fearful the bullying and social issues will get even worse. Does this sound like a case for EHCP?

No they don’t always have to have 1:1 support but often a school is quicker to apply if they absolutely have to have 1:1 support to attend.
I would contact ipsea and ask for their advice and possibly look into another school that will be more proactive in helping your son.

@Sarah3587 I have also been thinking that the school / setting isn't right for DS... I definitely think he is able to cope with mainstream, but school doesn't seem to be being proactive enough, you are right. He was an angel when we home schooled during lockdown and really thrived, so it can be done.

Are EHCP's only given if the child needs 1-1 support e.g. a TA?

Usually there is at least some element of TA support included in EHCPs but not necessarily full time or 1:1. Not because EHCPs must include TA support, but more that it is required to meet needs. For example if your DS had an EHCP it could include sensory work, social work, emotional literacy, perhaps some form of therapy/counselling for his MH which would all involve additional staff members in addition to the class teacher and, if there is one, class TA.

School was quick to tell me that DS wouldn't be eligible for funding and they wouldn't apply for any, whilst telling me at the same time he had indictors of autism and ADHD...

You can apply yourself. Not all pupils with ASD &/or ADHD will need an EHCP.

The only legal threshold for the initial hurdle for a needs assessment is a) has or may have SEN, and b) may need SEN provision to be made via an EHCP. If DS is having meltdowns, struggling socially, needing OT and has had episodes of EBSA you could meet that threshold. Refusing an EHCNA or to issue an EHCP just because a child is academically able is a blanket policy and unlawful.

Thank you both so much for all of this. I will wait until the autism charity has assessed him, that's happening next week, then decide what to do regarding the EHCP. I think I need a couple of weeks break after the horror that was the DLA form, it took 10+ hours to fill in and evidence. Crazy! Sorry for briefly derailing the thread!

You know what’s best for your son. An ehcp would give you the ability to find a more specialist school for him.
My daughter attended a mainstream with a special unit, but she could only access this because of her ehcp.
The first school she went to was a normal mainstream and they were terrible with children on the spectrum, often treating them as though they were Just naughty children. If my daughter was able to speak they probably would have overlooked all her other needs and not gotten her the ehcp she needed. I know a few other mums from her class had a battle on their hands in getting one. Sometimes you have to fight for it.

Has anyone ever received any texts over a weekend?

I think they do, @gemma1988, but not every DM has text-sending ability. Which is rather odd in this day and age! 🤷‍♀️

Just scrolling through but can't find it I'm sure someone has mentioned there is a Facebook group for wait times can someone tell me what the group is called please

If you search DLA for children it should come up

@SickKid thank you:)

Birmingham area what dates are they working on claims now does anyone know on recent call

It isn't area-specific. The sister of a DM confirmed that on the last thread.

Any idea about current scan dates please?

@doadeer, other than a few random April ones, it feels like it's stalled at the end of March for some reason (new claims).