I've been banned again!

[SadIndigo]

FFS. MN HQ has banned me again!

It appears there is one rule for everyone else on MN and one rule for me.

Apparently you're allowed to discuss everything on MN - except how to cure dyslexia. :( (Because apparently that subject is distressing to parents of dyslexic children)

So, I lose the support I need.

And MNers lose information about treatments that work for dyslexia.

I've made some good friends on here and provided and received lots of support and information and advice.

But this time I'm really going. MN HQ are a law unto themselves and they can't be reasoned with.

If you post nasty replies to this thread, please be aware that of course I will be reading them, and of course they'll hurt.

Indigo Bell

Please read back through some of these posts amber...
"TH mums against the world!..." For example. Also see sicks thread of yesterday mocking us that got deleted. I think that demonstrates that actually people do have a problem with the TH thread.
Sigh.
Am going to stop posting.
It's pointless.
You think I am bring arsey.
I think you are being arsey.
Bit of an impasse I think.

There is a certain amount of playing the victim that is starting to irritate me a bit tbh.

Indigo is very intelligent nd highly articulate. To suggest that she is incapable of moderating her posting style in order to remain within site rules is pretty insulting isn't it.

Saintly and I often turn up on vaccination threads. Saintly remains intelligent, engaged and articulate and almost everything she says remains in situ. I turn up and get annoyed and get deleted.
It's my choice. I lose my cool and mnhq delete me.
I don't then complain that other people just can't hear the truth or are victimising me.

I suspect the problem is the backstory has made everyone hyper sensitive. But I genuinely don't believe that mnhq are picking on anyone. The site just has rules and it is meant to be a support site so if posts are unsupportive - which absoloutely would include comments which sounded like 'anything other than this method is letting your child down' - then the poster just needs to stop it.

X-posted.
Actually sicks thread yesterday shows the opposite IMHO.

I didn't see a single post on there supporting it. Everyone said it was poor taste, reported it nd it was deleted. Which shows mnhq and the majority of mners don't want goading or unsupportive stuff on the board.

Don't know pag.
I have never been deleted.
Which is odd when you consider how passive aggressive and arsey I am! :) ;)

Saintly and I often turn up on vaccination threads. Saintly remains intelligent, engaged and articulate.

Yes you don't see me being all muttering and delerium at home

Yes that was very positive, actually, pag.
It was in very poor taste.
Anyway.
Don't think indigo will be back, so it's really not going to be an issue anymore.
And I am staying away from sn and sticking to the TH thread.
So.
Problem solved?

Sorry, x posts!
Am waiting hand and foot on ds2 who is ill ATM...
Saintly...it's part of the whole issue isn't it?
These subjects are so emotionally volatile and important it's hard not to take things personally, get angry, whatever...
I try not to.
It's not worth it in the long run.

Erm..not sure whether to point out that 'problem solved?' is really passive aggressive and victimy AT THE SAME TIME!

It never shows saintly. You bloody marvel.

Ha! :)
Oh dear.

Badvoc finally you seem to understand the problem. No it's not TH. Yes it's the word 'cure' and the failure to express the advice as 'one' option but 'the' option. That is how it comes across. IB is on record on the Primary Education thread as saying 'Dyslexia does not exist'. Go check it out. It is not acceptable to many people including MNHQ and it does Indigo no favours. A bit of reining in is all that is required.

I am sad though :(
Really sad.
So many on this thread who I admire and who (whether they know it or not) have helped me since I started posting on MNSN 4 years ago (have NC since then)
Such vitriol and anger.
And in the final analysis we are all just doing what we think best for our kids.
Come on everyone...join in...

"Kum by yah my lord, kum by yaaaahh...."
:)

Don't start me singing. I'll start on the wine and have to cancel Christmas.

Ah gwan!....you know you want to :)

I hope you are ok indigo have not read any of the posts bar the first page and tbh I am not going to bother.

What happened to the freedom of speech. The right to express ones views without getting stamped on :(

Indigo CURED HER child. There ya go ban me too.

I am helping my ds by using clicker and other methods and he is improving. He is READING. He is writing stories using clicker and reading it back.

I use terms like success, improvement, beating the problem etc. Indigo chooses to use the word cure so what? She is the child's mother and she is entitled to put her viewpoint accross. And by now we all know indigos way of typing posts and how she projects. Read between the lines and all she is doing is trying to help others and seek support in what is going on in RL herself. Stinks that she can't have it.

TH thread is a good one and I have gained some good advice scouting down it. I don't post often as there are some things I don't agree with. People need to grow a pair and realise that everyone is different and that is why this board is so great with such a wide range of support and advice you can pick from.

Don't like what you read? Then have the sense to avoid it or block it its that simple. Not go reporting mothers who have the genuine want to help people just because its not your way of viewing life.

MN and me are going to part ways soon I hate to see people get stamped on and cut out of anything due to difference :(

We can't though, can we? We can only sing "Kum by yah my lord" if we sweep the issue under the carpet.

Of course you don't get deleted, badvoc - that's the art of passive aggression. There's nothing 'active' to delete, it's more the tone and often what is not said, than what is.

In all honesty, I think it's the carriage returns that make you sound more aggressive than perhaps you intend? Take this for example:

"Sigh.
No.
I dont think I know everything.
You said yourself your post was ill advised. I agree."

It sounds snippy and narked. However, if it said:

"Sigh. No, I dont think I know everything. You said yourself your post was ill advised. I agree."

It still conveys frustration but not so much 'bulldog chewing a wasp'.

I'm not picking, btw, I just spent a bit of time wondering why I (and others, it seems) perceive you to be aggressive in your tone, yet you don't. I think it's the carriage returns...they make your words seem much more dogmatic than (perhaps) you intended.

Sticking to the TH thread won't change the fact that the TH thread has become a no-go zone for posters who aren't in full agreement. It won't help the fact that indigo thinks it's perfectly acceptable to tell parents that there is a cure for dyslexia, if only they'll spend money (not only the fee, but the cost of travel) with Robin.

It won't change the fact that schools are trialling therapies without the knowledge and permission of parents, which Indigo has encouraged and promoted, despite this board being 50% about parents who can't get team working with their schools. Of course, because Indigo agrees with it, it's fine in this instance

Just because Indigo is nice, that doesn't mean that she is infallible. It doesn't mean that she is above the rules MNHQ set.

Now that's off my chest

Kum by yah

Ah.
So my problem is that I press return too much?
Ok.
Will try to stop doing that.
Oops :)

coff33andmintspies you don't get it either. Nothing whatever to do about free speech. If you can't be bothered to read then I'll repeat:

The problem is not TH. It's the word 'cure' and the failure to express the advice as 'one' option but 'the' option. That is how it comes across. IB is on record on the Primary Education thread last week as saying 'Dyslexia does not exist' and on SN as saying EP reports are 'useless' and that anything other than TH methods are merely faffing about with symptoms because apparently Dyslexia is a food allergy.

It does Indigo no favours. A bit of reining in is all that is required.

Ok.
Would the following be deemed acceptable.....
"There is a current theory which states that dyslexia as a stand alone condition does not exist, but that it is (along with OCD, asd and dyspraxia) is a symptom of developmental delay syndrome"
Is that ok?
Because that is my stand point.
And indigos afaik.

I never go on the TH thread but in my world (autism) there are plenty of charlatans going around using the word 'cure' about diets and autism. Or they will sy they can 'recover' the child from autism. To me, that is wrong as autism is predominantly genetic in origin .

The only close to 'cure' I have seen is my own DSD. But three things caused her vast improvement, not cure: normal IQ, hf/mild to start with, she has grown and matured naturally with age.

I object to people using the word cure, especially on a non-scientific sample (often, one)

That's indigos belief.

I don't believe in God should I complain and request any religious views be banned or deleted?

We live in a world of difference. If we can't take it how can we teach our children to have broad shoulders and not take offence and tell them that not everyone thinks the same way as they do.

And there is enough difference for our children and ourselves to cope with in RL

Before everyone gets too off piste.

How anyone views their child's progress (whether they are 'curing' their child or not) is not the problem that gets mnhq involved.

'Cure or not' is valid debate.
Making others feel that they are failing their child if they do not use this 'cure' is the problem.
And that is mostly about tone and manners.

Sorry. Sounded like thread monitor there....