Tinsley House Support Thread

[IndigoBell]

An awful lot of us are now doing Tinsley House, either by going there, or by following the recommendations in The Brain Food Plan

So this is just a general support (and hopefully good news) thread.

Stage 1 of the TH therapy consists of:

1. Multivitamins

• Omega
• Zinc & Magnesium
• Multivitamin

1. Healthy eating diet

• High protein, low sugar, no artificial sweeteners, additives etc.

1. Specific exercises done 3 times a day

:)
So pleased for you.
All your hard work is paying off.
I really beleive that in 5-10 years this programme will be mainstream - not considered alternative or strange - and it will be thanks to you indigo.
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I've just come to this thread.

As a dyslexia expert- teaching for 30 + years and listed as a teacher by the BDA- I am horrifeid that this man/company is making money from parents for this.

I give handouts on diet and supplements FREE to parents of children I tutor. This info has been around for a long time- at least 15 years.

Also, the exercises which stimulate the cerabellum and may help balance have been around for ages- there are books on these exercises by reputable research scientists.

This man- who has NO formal training in dyslexia, dyspraxia or ADHD is making money out of vulnerable parents.

All the info on what he offers is out there either online via the BDA or on google.

I really hope that no one else will waste money on this.

www.badscience.net/2006/04/when-in-doubt-call-yourself-a-doctor/

Heard it all before carnaby..........:)

After 8 years of no one helping my son - NO ONE - he is finally making progress and doing well at school. He is less anxious, his bowels are much better (he was on an nhs waiting list for a hernia repair...turned out his pain was impacted faeces..) and others have had even better results (non verbal children becoming verbal).

In the article you refer to Robin was quoted without his permisson and out of context. You will find that Ben Goldacre is not very well respected on the MN sn/sen boards!!!!

I agree what Robin does is not "alternative" and lots of parents use supplements and do neuro developmental excerises and have done for a while...so whats your beef?

Or should I pay someone like you at DA or similar £40 per week for long term tuition which wont actually fix his vision problems but will give him "coping" strategies for school that he will not be able to use at work????

The initial part of Robins therapy is in the public domain as well. In the book the brain food plan.

You absolutely don't need to see him to complete the first 2 months of his program.

But after that it all gets a bit more complicated. He starts working on other bits of the brain as well as the cerebellum.

And what he is doing now with DD is absolutely targeting a very specefic piece of her brain.

I'm not wasting my money. I'm curing my kids. Genuinely. The difference between them now and when they started last Nov is like night and day.

But lucky, because I didn't waste my money on BDA tutoring, I have plenty to spend on effective treatments.

There is no scientefic proof that any of the techniques BDA (and presumably) you recommend work. No sceientefic studies. None.

So don't criticise TH for lack of scientific studies.

And if you actually read that bad science article you linked to you'd realise it doesn't criticise Robin at all. It critisices an unauthorised article written about him.

If you have personal bad experience of TH - please share. But if you get all your facts from the BDA, bad science and the daily mail - please take your ignorance to other parts of MN where it'll be welcomed.

Do any of your students go from being unable to read 'pony' on Sun to reading 'priviledge' on Thurs?

No? Then your method is not as effective as TH.

Carnaby, tell us some of your success stories.

What do you recommend we do to help our children?

Remembering that our children have various combinations of ASD/ ADHD/dyspraxia/dyslexia and OCD.

Indigo I am absolutely delighted for you on all the progress your children are making x

Hmmm.....silence......

Mrsbaffled..last week my sons year 4 teacher said me "ds is like a different child!"
And he is.
He hasn't changed personality wise, but he is finding life so much easier now and is so much more confident...it's lovely to see.

MrsB - thanks.

DSs (aspergers) report talked about how he used to be 'very independant' but has now made close friends and socialises in and out of class on a daily basis.

It talks about him developing empathy and being supportive of less able students.

Of being able to understand other peoples point of view.

All his ASD symptoms are disappearing.

DDs report talks about how much her memory has improved. and how her language difficulties have disapeared.

school have noticed huge positive changes.

it's brilliant! Fab news for mini badvoc too!

Carnaby, some of us are sick of having to accept 'coping strategies' for our dcs' sens. We want change, we want to make them better so that they can live their lives unhindered by aspergers ( in our case) and other sens. This is possible. We are not ignorant fools. We have spent hours researching our dcs conditions and have made considered and educated decisions to try tinsley house. Otherwise what else are we being offered? - nothing

I'm fairly new to his thread but from what I see it is a support thread and people's choices here are respected. We all read the sen board so I think it would be more appropriate for carnaby to start a separate thread and those of us wishing to debate the issue can do so without derailing this thread. Personally I don't have the energy to do so!

All I will say is that the people across the sen board are very knoweledgable about their children's sen (by necessity) and none of us approach therapies or interventions without carefull consideration and a healthy dose of skepticism nor does anyone on this thread push the tinsley house method down other people's throats.

I hav yet to throw any money at tinsley house yet and won't even consider doing so unless I see extraordinary changes in my son through first stage of diet supplements and excercise (ok I spent 7 quid on a book!)

Fwiw I have spent £3000 so far on some very conventional speech therapy and slow progress has been made should I continue to spend thousands and thousands managing my ds's issues or should I consider other options.

My brother has autism, he is 30. I've seen the future and I will not accept that for my son.

Great post cats.
Your son will achieve his potential - because he has you for his mum x

You are all deluded.

If this guy had real success measured scientifically, then the BDA and Dyslexia Action would support him- and so would the NHS.

Dyslexia cannot be sured.

Vision treatment can be given by a single or two visits to a vision expert like Dr Clyde Alexander.

Children who are gluten intolerant ot have any other food allergies or intolerances can be seen in the NHS. If they do not have these then they should not have major food groups taken from their diets.

The DAAT program was a scam too.

In many cases it's the extra attention form mum/dad that motivates children, the time spent with them, the better diet and so on.

It's a disgrace this man is making moeny from this. I feel very sorry for anyone who has paid money for it because the help is out there from people with real knowledge and success.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, but as catsdon'tcare said this thread is a support thread not a debate one. Fwiw my ds has ridiculous amounts of attention from his parents.

I certainly hope you speak to people with more professionalism and courtesy in the course of you work.

You may have some valid points but please start an appropriate thread also a thread pointing us I the direction of all that help you speak of! (I fear it may be you that is deluded about the impact you have had on children with sen!)

Oh and if you happened to be

Get your facts straight before you slag him off, please.

TH does not advocate a gluten free diet.

You haven't addressed any of our points. You've failed to grasp that TH is not just about dyslexia, nor the fact that all of has seen great results, nor have you provided any anecdotes that you get good results.

You are not able to help with memory problems or processing speed or meltdowns or empathy or tiptoe walking or eye contact or social skills.....

What you, and the BDA, are doing is tutoring. That's all. You are not in competition with TH. You try to teach kids to read and spell. TH doesn't do that.

It takes years and millions to do those scientific studies. .

But a therapy that works after its been studied also works before its been studied.

What you are doing, via BDA, has no sceientefic basis.. Yet you feel confident enough to charge parents a fortune for your time.

But the others are right. Do your research and then start your own thread. At the moment all you are doing is displaying your ignorance.

Carnaby, this is a support thread for those of us using TH. If you want to start a thread slagging off things you know nothing about, please go ahead but get off ours. Some of us have spent years researching ways and means of helping our children; yet you assume we are gullible and naive.

I am the parent of a dyslexic teenager. Her performance is school is considered good because she is very intelligent, but she will never reach her academic potential, largely because she finds reading and academic work exhausting. She had specialist teaching for some years at DA which has papered over the cracks but we are in the minority that is able to afford it.

Robin Pauc is a sincere and knowledgeable man. In my DD's case he found something that no-one had noticed before, that her eyes don't work together properly; he is confident that he can make some improvements in her dyslexia.

I am a natural sceptic (I have a science degree) but having met the man I am very impressed, he is in no way a charlatan and believes deeply in what he does. The accounts for Tinsley House are in the public domain (as they are for all companies) and it is blatantly obvious that it is not a money spinning exercise.

carnabystreet, I think you have misread this thread,,,its clearly titled TH Support Thread, I don't see any support in any of your comments.

Do you not think that parents have tried the NHS, do you not think that the NHS has failed these parents repeatedly and that is why they look elsewhere??

There is proof on this thread that this process is working for some, there are also comments on here where people are finding that things are taking time or may not be working for them, no one is telling them that can't be right and that this is the only way, we are grown ups for gods sake, and from what I see sensible, articulate and realistic ones at that.

I for one have followed this with interest, spent £5 on a book that I have found a facinating read and used some of the things in there and for me they are working.

I for one will ignore any more of your comments, because quite frankly my time is too short to spend on such negativity!!

You are not able to help with memory problems or processing speed or meltdowns or empathy or tiptoe walking or eye contact or social skills

What you, and the BDA, are doing is tutoring. That's all. You are not in competition with TH. You try to teach kids to read and spell. TH doesn't do that.

This shows I'm afraid your ignorance about what specialist teachers offer.
Specialist teachers address all a child's needs- it's a holistic approach.

Please don't tell me what I- or my coleagues do- when it is clear that you don't have any idea.

If you had ever used a tutor you would know that working on memory skills, processing speeds, and social skills such as eye to eye contact are integral to what we do.

It's rather sad that you think so little of specialist teachers who have much more to offer than you think.

To say that we just teach reading and spelling is actually insulting. Our interest and training in ALL the conditions which have co-morbidity- is clear if you ever talked to or used a tutor.

I know that tutors or the BDA are not in competition with TH- what I am saying is that although you say you have looked into other sources of help before using TH, you can't have found the right person(s) to help - because they exist, are qualified and don't charge the fees that this man does for info that is in the public domain.

The work of Dr Alex Richardson at Oxford uni has been focused on diet, omega 3s, and so on for years and years.

Please enlighten me. How would you improve my DDs processing speed? Precision teaching has been tried and failed.

And how would you improve her working, short term and long term memory? Jungle memory and all the memory interventions school do have been tried and failed.

There's a thread right now where a concerned parent of a child with ADD has asked for help with improving memory. Why don't you also post on that and help her?

And how do you explain that BeingFluffy's DD has be a dyslexia action tutor for years (spending way more than TH charges) yet hey dyslexia is still holding her back.

My engagement with Dyslecia action was one phone call. I rang them up to ask them how they could help me, and they only wanted to sell me an EP report telling me the areas DD struggled with. They said they couldn't help with processing speed or memory problems.

The lea SpLD EP refused to even test DDs processing speed and memory, because he said there was nothing he could do to help them.