Tinsley House Support Thread

[IndigoBell]

An awful lot of us are now doing Tinsley House, either by going there, or by following the recommendations in The Brain Food Plan

So this is just a general support (and hopefully good news) thread.

Stage 1 of the TH therapy consists of:

1. Multivitamins

• Omega
• Zinc & Magnesium
• Multivitamin

1. Healthy eating diet

• High protein, low sugar, no artificial sweeteners, additives etc.

1. Specific exercises done 3 times a day

And why is it fine for you to charge parents lots of money? But not OK for TH to charge?

Certainly this page on private tuition from the BDA does not talk about a holisitc approach or how they can help with processing speed or memory.

All it talks about are very simplistic learn to read programs like Alpha to Omega.

Obviously, we've already done all of the major recommended learn to read programs.

The SpLD EP report school had done on my DD said 'School were doing everything they should'. His recommendations were I buy her a reading pen and dictation software.

We're not paying for the supplements and diet advice. Like you said that is in the public domain - in his book for starters.

We're paying for his neurodevelopment therapy. He has put the first stage in his book, but he can't possibly put all of it in a book. Plus some of it involves using software which can only be sold by a licensed reseller.

We're paying to cure our kids, not just teach them to read or teach them compensating strategies.

And so far I'm very, very pleased with the results on both my kids.

Hi folks, quick question for anyone using magnesium spray. Have been using it for two weeks on ds's, gradually building up to full dose and he has been totally fine with it but last night he cried and said it was really hurting. Should I be changing the area I spray it each time or o you think it's a delayed reaction. I did by the one with essential oils by mistake rather than the original variety. I'm reluctant to use it again but not sure whether to order the other spray?

Carnaby - btw seeing as you're so obsessed with the cost. I pay TH £70 every 8 weeks. (which is how often I visit him)

How much do you charge your customers? £50 a week? So £400 in 8 weeks?

Indigo- I have a classroom full of educational games which are aimed at helping to improve memory. Many are available from specialist suppliers whom I use.

Processing is different- sometimes mind mapping and playing to the visual or auditory channels helps a lot. Again in a very tactile way.

I am shocked and surprised that the LEA ed psych didn't want to assess processing speed or memory. I have seen literally dozens of assessments, and these tests are always carried out.

The reason that I am so anti this "regime" is that the man who runs it is not 100% upfront about his qualifications- ie calling himself a dr and talking about neurology, as if he is a neurologist and medically qualified in some way.

The info on his website and other sites where is listed do not make it clear that all his qualifications and Asst Professorships are in the context of chiropractor training.

I'm not happy as I said earlier that you denounce specialist teachers in the way that you do. I have literally dosens of testimonials from grateful parents whose children are now in further and higher ed.

I'm not going to post here anymore- but that's not because anyone here has said I shouldn't- MN is an open forum and I am allowed to pst just as anyone is. There will always be lurkers who may want to hear another side.

Carnaby, I was very clear about Robin's qualifications before my DD went along. He is a neurological chiropractor, so what? He is not pretending to have invented the research or methods he uses but he seems to be one of the few (if not uniquely) offering them as a package.
My DD had specialist teaching at DA for over three years. It was effective in teaching her to read and write effectively. She is in the top set at school but still struggles because she is still dyslexic. She now has a chance to try and cure the underlying causes of her dyslexia at a fraction of the money I paid to DA. Having spoken to others who have had good results I would be mad not to give it a try.

Games don't improve memory very much. The studies are very inconclusive about whether they improve memory at all.

And a lot of them have been done by the person who flogs jungle memory. So they conclude that playing games, like jungle memory, help.

But you certainly won't get the dramatic memory improvements my DD has had by practicing remembering. You won't make someone with exceptionally poor memory, ie unable to remember her alphabet, into someone with a very good memory.

First of all you were unhappy because he charges for it when it's in the public domain.

When I point out its not in the public domain you're still unhappy that he charges for it. Then when I point out you charge more than he does you're unhappy because he's not a medical dr.

You are being totally ridiculous. How would a medical dr help with dyslexia?

You're not a dr (presumably) so again, why is it ok for you to charge for a holistic approach which you claim helps but its not OK for TH to do the same?

You believe deeply in the BDA approach. Which is fine

You are ignoring all the anacdotal evidence on this thread that TH is better than BDA. Which is stupid but fine.

Whereas I believe the BDA approach doesn't cure dyslexia and is therefore a waste of money. Which is also fine for me to believe.

Robin is not pretending to be anything he isnt. Ben Goldacre didn't even speak to Robin before publishing that illinformed article. Yet you choose to believe what Ben Goldacre says over the truth. Fine. You can believe anything you want.

You continue to make money from teaching kids to read.

And I'll continue to cure my DCs

Indigo

I said I wasn't going topst any more but in reply to your last post I feel that i can't let your points go unchallenged.

Are you seriously saying that your experience of dyslexia ( and other conditions) exceeds that of mine and my colleagues who are trained to a high post graduate level and have decades- not 6 years' personal experience like you- of working with children and other professionals?

I'm sorry but I won't have to posting here that memory games etc "Don't work" when I have seen evidence to the contrary with children with whom I work.

Your tone is confrontational and arrogant.

You are also doing a good job of mis-reading; where did I sya what fees I charged for you to write that I charge more than this man?

Nowhere.

I don't.

There is no cure for dyslexia.

Carry on thinking there is if you wish.. It's your child and your money.

Thank you. Now you get it.

It's my children and my money.

That is the whole point.

I think the truth is you don't like TH because it clearly is working. Rather than any of the spurious objections you've given.

Anyway, back to the support thread.

As I said, yesterday there was a huge jump in DDs reading.

I had parents evening last night, and her teacher said 'I don't know if I'm imagining it, but I thought her writing was vastly better today' :)

He said that without me saying I thought she was improving. Also, he didn't try to take credit for her writing improvement.

Like me, he thought there was a noticeable difference between one day and the next.

And amazingly (for her), she could still read last night :)

mmmm, can't seem to help myself butting in here even though I promised myself i wouldn't!!

carnabystreet, this thread has been ongoing for months, its a positive support network for parents that are trying the regime for their kids. Others have tried many regimes but for them at the moment this is the one they are trying and its clear for many that in one way or another this one seems to work better for them.

Indigobell has been a tower of strenghth to many on here, sharing her experiences, opening up about her childrens challenges and showing that for her and her dc's its making a difference. To suggest her to be confrontational and and arrogant is quite frankly a joke, you were the one coming onto a support network and saying that people are delusional.

You clearly for whatever reason personal to you have an issue with either TH or Robin, which is fine and of course it is your perogative to share those concerns, but maybe you need to find somewhere else to vent your opinions, they do not sit well in this particular thread. This is not a thread where confrontation sits this is a support network for people that have chosen to use or consider the program and like you said, its their children and their money.

I cannot believe YOUR arrogance and cheek Carnaby. You butted in on a thread that was for parents to share knowledge and experiences of TH. We are well aware that people have differing views and can make up our own minds thank you very much.

Indigo works tirelessly to support her own children and those of others; she does not deserve abuse from somebody so blinkered that they will not accept that people have alternative views. Indigo convinced me to start the TH programme for my DD and I am very glad she did so; this is from someone who paid thousands to DA for my daughter to be taught to read and write. I pay a fraction of that to TH and so far it has been worth it. I only regret that I did not know about it when my DD was younger.

Indigo, I am so pleased at your good news in respect of your DD.

Also had some good news re my DD this week. She came 4th in a year group of 240 for her recent English exam (end of year 8). She has made a great improvement - at the end of her first week in year 7 she came home with red writing all over her book which was littered with mistakes!

Hi, our naturopath has suggested that my son 3.5 years old goes 100% GF CF before we do any testings - is that right?
No idea where to start, recipes etc - any suggestions please?

Hi, our naturopath has suggested that my son 3.5 years old goes 100% GF CF before we do any testings - is that right?
No idea where to start, recipes etc - any suggestions please?

Is GF gluten free? No idea what CF is, sorry?

TBH I have used quite a few alternative practioners and they have all given very specific advice on diet when telling me to change it. A naturopath telling you to restrict the diet of a young child without telling you what to give him instead, sets the alarm bells ringing.

Ds is grim this week ( too much 'fun' stuff at school thrown him out of routine) so I wanted to write down the improvements we have seen since starting TH at the start of June to remind myself how far we have come:
Only two wet beds ( used to be once a week)
Massive improvement in concentration - particularly in maths, has gone from a 1b to 2b in a term !
Flapping has gone
School say he is calmer (or was til he started walloping kids this week)

That is pretty good for starters hey? Think Robin will be pleased when we see him in a fortnight.

That's a lot of improvements in 6 weeks. I'm very impressed. Well done little bags. :)

Hello
I have been reading this thread with interest and have had a look at the Tinsley House website and just wondered if it sounds like it might be something that could help my DD.

She is 3.8 years old and has severe motor skills delay (is at 24 months, can't jump or hop and is pretty ungainly). She has a speech delay, but is getting better, but is at about 2.5 years old for that I think.

She is certainly developmentally delayed, basically she is only on target for her visual development and her self care.

It has been suggested she has Autism by an Ed Psych as she is self motivated and plays alongside children as opposed to with them. She can often ignore people, but can often be very communicative.

We have had her on the GF/CF diet and I have started giving her Eskimo kids fish oil supplement. I think there have been changes since we started the diet, she seems more aware and also her play has become more imaginative. She is able to concentrate better and she talking about things that are not in the here and now.

Would Tinsely House be something worth looking at for her?

Thanks

Yes, TH is for kids with developmental delay.

You can read more about it in Is That My Child?

I think it's worth looking at. If it doesn't help, then you can try the next thing on your list of things to try........

Thanks Indigo. You told me to put her on GF/CF on a thread and I really think it's helped.

This may sound completely daft, but I was brought up to follow the rules and to believe in science and that anything 'alternative' was just daft. So I find it a bit excruciating to be looking at things like this. I just feel like she is just there, just out of reach and that I want to try anything to help her get where she should be.

Can I also ask if it is £££. How much, roughly, are we looking at?

I will take a look at the book and will e mail Tinsley House if I want more info,

The tinsley house website details the cost of the appointments. We have spent £250 so far but the results we have had so far are well worth it. Try the stairs exercise- costs you nothing and you may see results.
Re the science- we have chosen not to tell our families about tinsley house because we think they will poo poo it as alternative. But when I read the book the science behind it made perfect sense and seemed to make sense of ds' difficulties too. Also I was sick to death of having to accept he was always going to have problems and wanted something to 'do' to help him.

I haven't been to tinsley house but have just started the brain food plan which sets out the first stage of the programme (diet, exercise and supplements) tbh when you start to look at it, it really isn't THAT alternative, just sensible diet and supplements and some excercises.

It's early days for us yet only being doing the diet two weeks (with a couple of blips!) and have started on magnesium and multi vitamins but waiting for the vegepa to arrive. Also ds's language skills are delayed so he can't follow the exercises properly yet but we are making progress in that area.

I'm hoping by the time he starts school in September we will have the diet in much better shape and that the supplements will have started to kick in so will be interesting to see how he settles into school and what they make of him! I am quite glad it will be fresh eyes seeing him after a couple of months on the plan.

If we feel that the plan is helping then I will look into going to the clinic.

Treatment takes 1 - 2 years. You go and visit him (in the New Forest) every 8 weeks - although you can do the calls by Skype instead after the first few visits.

The first 2 visits are longer and more expensive. After that you're talking £70 every 8 weeks. So not a lot.

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