Has anyone tried sleeping training ?? Help

[Daisyflower12345]

How did you do it ?

I really need to do something as I'm physically and emotionally drained!
DD is 14months and still isn't sleeping through the night an regularly wakes up. I'm so sleep deprived. Many have mentioned to try the Ferber method where you come in after long intervals. I just need to do something and this is literally my last and final option I don't know wat else to do.

Has anyone tried this ?? Has it worked ? Was it the worse thing ever ? Please any advice will help.

@Daisyflower12345 Hope you took a break with a lovely soak in a hot bath and are now snuggled up in bed.

@HoneyPea Awww aren't u lovely lol put a smile on my face.

Yes had a lovely hot bath and cup of tea. Put DD to bed at 7.30pm and got into bed myself too. Going to have an early night and hoping for a better day tomorrow x

@Daisyflower12345 Did you gave a better night? Did you have the fan on? X

@HoneyPea hey it was soooo much better.
Obviously still need improvements but a lot better.

She went to slee at 7.30pm, she sat up around 12ish so tapped her a little and then she woke up around 6.30 again tapped her and then she was wide awake at 7.30pm. So a lot better to the other nights.

Yes had the fan on I do think that helps as it blocks out other noises and also she's quite used to it.

How was your night ? X

Glad you had a better night. Has it made you feel better about everything this morning?
ours was great thanks, he went to bed a bit later than I planned (7.55) as we had a long bath, no wake ups and he's still asleep now. Fingers crossed the early bedtime from a one nap days suit him and it's not just beginners luck!

@HoneyPea Yeah I feel so much better thank you.

Awww that's really good. That's amazing he slept through and you also had a good night. Hopefully he sticks to it.

How old is he? X

@Daisyflower12345 🤞🏻 He's just turned 16months 😊

@HoneyPea Awww nearly same as my DD she is 15months. X

@HoneyPea @Indecisivelurcher Hi Guys

Another awful night 😢

DD went to sleep at 7.30pm. Woke up at 1am and did not go back to sleep till 5am. She was wide awake jumping around had all this energy. Me and DH just ignored her completely but she was entertaining herself lol.

I don't know why I think it's because of her napping time. Yesterday she had 1 and half hour nap. Like the day before she literally had a 20min nap and slept a lot better at night. I could be wrong? I'm just thinking of all possible reasons to why she isn't sleeping well.

I'm going out of my mind. Don't know how I'm going to cope with another week of this until we do sleep training 😫😫

Hi @Daisyflower12345. This sounds so like my son at 14m. He would wake up for several hours every night. He'd be happy, just awake! And I couldn't get him back off for love nor money. This is why I hired a sleep consultant!

All the advice I've given you is the advice the sleep consultant gave me. We did controlled crying with interval checks. She insisted he wasn't getting enough hours sleep and told me he needed a solid nap and an early bedtime. I was dubious, like you are. But it worked.

If I was you I would do controlled crying starting at bedtime tonight.

I get that you wanted to wait so you're husband is on leave from work. But honestly it might not be as bad as you think. 2 or 3 nights and you could be done. That's the weekend. And really, can I get much worse?

You need to do it at bedtime because that's the only time you can actually do it properly, considering you share a room. Then I'm the night you will have to just ignore her. No patting.

@indecisivelurcher do you mind me asking what counts as an early bedtime (7pm, or is that too early?) And how much nap time did you aim for during the day?

I've fallen into the trap of patting my DD back to sleep during the night and it's getting ridiculous, I need to break the habit as I'm exhausted. Sterling myself for CC...

Depending on age and how well they sleep, I count 6:30-7 as fairly typical bedtime and 5:30 acceptable if necessary! I'm talking about bad sleepers age 1-2 I think.

You should be able to find online a table of sleep by age... With total sleep hours, suggested number of naps, nap length, wake time, and suggested bedtime. In my opinion the wake time is really important. If the hours wake time are up, off to bed they go! Try searching for it or check out baby centre or the baby sleep site.com

Don't forget that if they're not getting enough total sleep they'll be running up a sleep debt, this will cause them to sleep less! The easiest way to counter this and start catching up the debt is to put them to bed earlier. Although it sounds counter-intuitive, for many babies /toddlers an earlier bedtime will help them to sleep better in the night. There is a saying that sleep breeds sleep.

@Indecisivelurcher Yes that's exactly DD she's not upset or anything when she wakes she's happy and hyper playing talking etc.

I have spoken with DH about starting the sleep training but he's insisting on waiting till he has time off as he suffers from migraines and he said he would find it very difficult
Waking up for work so would rather do it when he has time off so he is fully prepared. If it was up to me I would've started this a week ago lol but it's hard because we share a room I need DH on board. So going to have to wait unfortunately.

Il stick to the routine as usual. I put her to sleep at 11am today and she is still currently sleeping. She is probably shattered lol. An then il do same bedtime at 7pm.

Just have to try an stay strong until Monday next week and hope the sleep training will help.

Found it! I like this sleep chart...
www.mybabysleepguide.com/2013/02/average-sleep-charts-by-age.html?m=1

I don't get his logic, surely she's waking him now?! Sleep training she's likely to be more upset at bedtime, when you are awake anyway?! Hey ho, it's important you're a team.

@Indecisivelurcher Trust me I feel the exact same as you. I said to him it's worse now so what's the difference. But he's just adamant he would like to do it next week. I have no energy to argue so I'm just trying to stay calm haha

@Indecisivelurcher just been reading this thread, and you seem to have been through it all with your DS. Just wondering, did CC work to start to reduce the length of the night wakings? My DD is younger (8 months) but although she self settles at the start of sleep, she goes through phases of waking up for 1.5-2.5 hours overnight. I am going to try and cut out night feeds as I actually don’t think she’s waking for feeds anymore - she’s just awake and goes between being wide awake to very upset that she’s not asleep. Nothing I do seems to help, she just runs out of steam and falls back to sleep eventually.

@Daisyflower12345 I am also waiting another week before trying to crack these night wakings, as my DH has time off then. I feel your frustration!! Hope it goes by quickly and soon we’ll be sleeping all night long 😴

@Dillybear Awwww good luck. We will both be starting together then. Let's hope it works quite quickly for both of us. Keep me updated. Are you doing the Ferber method ? X

Hi all, I have 9mo twins who wake up twice during the night once at 3.30am for a bottle . And again at 5.30am. I am sooo tired. They fall sleep in hand and sometimes by themselves. I need to get them sleeping through the night. Help!!!

I’m not 100% sure. I was going to try sending DH in to offer water, and seeing if she settles after that. She settles to sleep by herself after a feed with no problems a lot of the time, it’s just that the feeds seem pretty much pointless now as they’re so short. I think she’s waking out of habit rather than hunger. I just end up so tired when she wakes and then can’t get back to sleep for hours.

I think if we offer water she will cry (just because of the change) so then we will do interval checks. I don’t mind leaving her to cry a little if she’s cross and tired, but if she’s really upset I think that would be hard. I probably need a more robust plan, actually...

Lol unfortunately my ds was better than my Dd... She's 6 next week and only started to sleep this summer, she's been on melatonin prescribed by the doctor and we've done A LOT of mindfulness. She did sleep from age 7m to age 4!!! Then stopped. When she was a baby I got stuck rocking her to sleep so I understand about that. I actually did cold turkey cry it out. Which I can't believe in hindsight. But I tried controlled crying and it was clearly winding her up more me popping in and out. So I left her. She cried 1hr 20 the first night but not hysterical, more on off. Then 30min the next night. Then ten. Then she slept through the third night. She slept reliably then until she was 4 when childcare issues made her anxious and we ended up here.

When ds was born I had an all out rocking ban! He self settled to sleep reliably from 4m. Then at 6m he got quite poorly and needed extra feeds for a while and that seemed to set his sleep back, then by 12m he was having 2hr wake blocks in the night I couldn't find out anything about that online, no one else seemed to have that issue! I wasn't sure standard sleep training would work and dh and I couldn't agree. Dh had also had mental health issues so took no part in night wakings. Hence called in the sleep consultant.

We sorted a much earlier bedtime first, 5:30!!! Then after a week did controlled crying. It was practically painless. I think we'd been inadvertently fueling his night wakings by trying to get him back to sleep. As soon as he was ignored he packed it in!

She then also helped me with my daughter. We did a thing called bedtime tickets, even though we applied it in the night. My daughter was up 32 times a night by that point. The sleep consultant was the best money I ever spent. She didn't totally sort my Dd but definitely set us on a path to now, where we've just stopped her melatonin. She's 6 on Tuesday.

Anyway, I can't remember what the question was!!!!

@Dillybear if you're not already then I think you need to treat night wakings the same as bedtime, and use interval checks. You sound like you're very close! So I would suggest delaying your first check to see if he'll settle himself, could you hang on 15 mins before you go in, do you think?

@taneve twins must be tough, my sister is expecting twins due in the new year and has a 2.5yo already. Do you want to night wean?

@Indecisivelurcher oh my goodness you’ve really been through the mill!! That’s really helpful, thank you. Something you said in an earlier post really resonated with me - it’s not my job to get her to sleep. I had been doing everything I could think of to try and settle her when she’s unsettled overnight, and I actually think I don’t help. It’s probably just the sense that I want to feel I’m doing something. But the last couple of long wake ups I’ve been a lot more hands off and they’ve not been as long. I haven’t started the ‘not feeding’ bit yet. But just letting her get on with it and offering a bit of reassurance actually seems to reduce the agony for all of us. If you don’t mind me asking, which sleep consultant did you use? If the night weaning doesn’t improve things, I may well decide to throw some money at the problem. Sleep consultants cost a lot, but I keep thinking, if someone told me it would cost £300 (or whatever) to get a good night’s sleep, I would bite their hand off!