SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

ibs, 7.30 til 7am.....bet you thought you'd never see the day huh? is it october when you go back to work?

ibs, 7.30 til 7am.....bet you thought you'd never see the day huh? is it october when you go back to work?

You bet, Tibs! 'Twas 2 nights ago. Not expecting it to become the norm, but once in a while wouldn't hurt . Back to work 9th October. Feel weird. Looking forward to being at work, but not to leaving DD obviously. Though at least I'll get the chance to have a piping hot cup of coffee, and visit the loo in peace .

hi everyone!! busy today.
tam, our night was so so, woke at 9, 1, 4.30, 7. there might have been another one where he settled himself, i can't remember (in sleep daze)
am considering night weaning, but am too weak and lacking in serious resolve!
ep - blardy biting. it's horrid. they do seem to think they are being funny. i think the going advice about the end of feed biting is to try and watch them getting to the end of a feed and take them off before this point. prob easier said than done.
ds went through a day of it, and didn't feed all day as every time i'd put him on, he'd just bite. he seems to have gotten over it. i was quite firm and took him off every time and put him down with a stern look and voice

ahhh yes, lukewarm coffee doesnt have the same effect does it?!!!
dd always comes to loo with me, if shes feeling particularly clingy, would even want to sit on my lap
hope the return back to work goes smoothly for you, am sure it will

Thanks for your words of support, all.

EP - so sorry for your sore nips but hang on in there love, every Sunday it's a fresh week.

Meg - night weaning was the hardest thing I've ever done. Basically, when he woke up asking for food, I offered it before 4am, then flatly refused. I held the poor child while he screamed for 1.5 hours. It was awful. I eventually got him to sleep in the buggy. Following day he ate like a horse!

Unfortunately I've had to do that about 4 times in total, over the course of about 3 weeks. Things are def better now as he knows he has to eat sufficiently during the day. Now if only that wretched tooth would let him sleep in peace. It's been so delicious hearing him stir or even wake at night and then settle himself, but now his poor gums are playing havoc! Hmmm...now he's fast asleep I might go and give him some undercover bonjela application!

Night night all, hope tonight is better than ever.

Tibs - thought I was the only one to sit my LO on my lap while on the loo!

Tibs: DS clings onto my knees! He's fascinated with the bathroom, not being allowed in it on his own.

Not a bad night for us, a good 2 and a bit hour stretch in his cot then a few wakings - about every coupl dof hours I think but I was mostly asleep!

Had a bit of a SDD yesterday, was thinking if I was just being a lazy mum by not trying to night wean/get DS to sleep in his cot all night etc. Got a bit cross thinking it shouldn't be this hard - spending hours getting DS to settle etc. But then was awtching DS sleep last night next to me, holding on to my finger, ad thought: will I regret this? No

EP - for your SDD. glad that gazing on a sleeping DS has made you feel better. FWIW, cc has made me feel like a big b'stard, and I'm sure your DS just loves snuggling up with you.

Amber for those nipped nips!

Mrs TH - hope the surreptitious bonjela mission was a success.

Tough night. After naps being preceded by just moments of crying, I was expected a good night. Forgetting that these things are never linear. DD cried for 40mins before bed. Self settled x3 in the night, needed a quick soothe at 5.15, then up for the day at 6.15.

Hoping to hear of good nights .

i take ds into the bathroom as i'm afraid what he might do if i leave him downstairs alone!
ep, you are doing wonderfully. and it's not lazy at all. some people justhave an easier time than others. different babies. different personalities. one thing i know is that all our babies are going to turn out with wonderful strong personalities and do a lot in life.
(our night was horrid. back in regression territory!)

Mrs TH, what age did you night wean? i've been considering it. but don't know if i could do the staying up for hours. boob is the quickest sleep inducer i know!
so do you mean you will feed up until 4am and then not after? does that help them to eat more in the day.

i don't know what my LO is up to. he did eat masses last night. but i thought he ate ok in the day. refused most solid food though so maybe that had some correlation.

Brrrr! Proper chilly this morning! Time to get the heating on...

EP sorry for your SDD. There's nothing lazy about trying to maximise sleep with a non-sleeping baby!

Amber for regresion. Hope it passes quickly.

Baz for tears. I guess if cc was that easy everyone would do it!

Bog-standard night for us. Unsettled at 11 due to tooth so gave Medised, but still woke 2, 4, 6 and in with us til 7. Feel OK this morning, though.

It is chilly! was considering heating but thought maybe i was being a wimp.

morning all my heatings's on!

EP you are a fabulous mum and doing the best for your son. He's very lucky to have you!

Baz sorry you had a tough night. Just say to yourself it's to be expected and actually congratulate yourslef and dd on how well you're doing with such a big change. Hope today goes better for you

amber for backwards step. It's got to be teeth.
he'll be back to his good old ways very soon.

Meg glad you feel ok even with the 2 hour wakenings.

morning to MRS TH and Tibs for when you appear

our night was odd.
ds still not well.
coughed all night so i was on tender hooks waiting for the vomiting but it didn't occur so guess that's one thing to be thankful for.
phoned my homeopath yesterday and she said unfortunately if it's gone to the green snot stage (sorry if tmi!) then he'll need an antibiotic as it's bacterial.
he's never had an antibiotic and was hoping to avoid them but needs must.
off to GP later today.

anyway gotta go, got music group at 10 this morning and ds not dressed yet!

morning ladies!
MrsTH Hope that wretched tooth comes thru soon

EP for your sdd. you are doing a fantastic job and a real inspiration with your positivity. i'm 'wimping out' (for want of a better word) of night weaning too, so you're not alone.

ibs for the crying my love, but for the self settling. you're getting there x

amber for the regression, hope you manage to get a breather today

meg for your ok night and the fact that you feel ok today. i love those days!

hi tam and hope poor ds gets better soon. i know what you mean re. the antibiotics, but sometimes youve just got to go with it dd had to have some when she hurt her finger. it was still a little pink when she finished the course, but i've been using aloe vera or lavender to finish clearing it up.

well after a (nearly) 3 hr nap yesterday we had an absolutely horrendous night (yes, swear words were bandied about! ) dd was awake for 3 flaming hours........ she was screaming and even boob didnt settle her......changed her nappy after about 10 mins to find a very sore bottom but it didnt seem to help. have been using plenty of cream to try and clear it and have given her bot a bit of an airing this a.m.....any other suggestions?

hi everyone,

amber - sorry to hear your night was rough. hopefully it's just a blip.

tam - poor ds. i completely understand the reluctance over antibiotics. but once in 18 months is not so bad, and hopefully he'll be on the mend soon.

meg - glad that you are feeling good .

tibs - poor you and poor dd. sounds horrid. re the sore bottom: if you want to try something natural, we've found waitrose baby bottom butter to be excellent. and it's got a really yummy vanilla smell.

cheated this morning. went to asda so dd took a buggy-assisted nap, thus avoiding any tears .

btw - what are you dressing your LO's in for bed now the weather's turned? It's the first cold snap since DD was tiny, and now we're not swaddling I get so confused.

hey tibs for your horrendous night. must be teeth again if she has a sore bum. don't know of any really good natural remedies. amber prob wiould (?)

BAZ ds has always hated being too warm and so at your dd's age he would have worn an all in one but with no feet in it and only one blanket (the type with holes and a silky edge) by 9 months he was into cotton pyjamas (gap and boden do fab ones for boys)but not sure what the girls are like)

now he wears 'short' pj's and looks so cute in them. even in those he kicks all the covers off.

Tibs poor DD, I have heard good things about calendula cream, not sure if that would be any use?

Baz, we are in 1 tog grobag plus all-in-one sleepsuit (covers hands and feet to minimise scratching). He felt a bit chilly this morning though, so if it's cool again tonight I may add a vest under the sleepsuit or upgrade to 2.5 tog bag.

We went for the same last night Meg, and i too was considering something extra, but not sure what. Thanks!

thanks ibs but dont have a waitrose near us....a friend of mine tried egg white, apparently its supposed to be good for nappy rash dd never really had it before so am at a bit of a loss

hi every1,please help fast!!! I have 4 kids aged 2,8,11 and 15.The 2yr old is ok at bedtime as is 15yr old but the 8 and 11yr old share a room and I cannont get them to sleep at night! Any suggestions?

thanks meg and tam - yep think its blardy teeth again

Hi Soozg. Blimey you must be knackered -- I'm exhausted with one LO to look after!

No ideas for you as I've only got 6.5mo DS, but I shared a tiny bedroom with my big sis (three years older) until I was 16 and she was 19 (we didn't have much room in our house!) and we always stayed up late chatting etc. I think in the end my mum gave up trying and just let us get on with it as long as we didn't make too much noise! The good point was that we grew up to be very close and still are

Soozg: you might get more responses if you start a new thread . I have only the one DS as well, so can't really advise. Sorry to hear about your sleeplessness though.

Tibs: I second the Weleda calendula nappy cream. You can get Weleda stuff from most health shops, or I'm sure you can buy it online. They do some really nice bath stuff as well, al paraben free etc.etc.

Re clothes, DS hated grobags so he's in pjs and vest plus a blanket.if's it's a bit warmer I take the pj top off.

Amber: regressions grrrr - hope you get some rest today

Tam: sorry to hear DS still not well - sounds like a trip to the GP. The good thing is, if your DS has anitbiotics v rarely (i.e. only when REALLY necessary) they'll work a lot better cos he won't have built up any resistance .