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SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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ImBarryScott · 10/09/2007 08:04

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

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Amberjee · 29/09/2007 20:28

ah, everyone and their LO's are sick at the moment. he is in bed, woke up once screaming with a huge burp, but back down, hopefully for a long time

Amberjee · 29/09/2007 20:44

can the SIFTW girls give me their thoughts please?
sometimes now when LO wakes at night, we can bring him into our bed without a feed and he settles, or sometimes i can just feed him back to sleep in his cot. it seems to me that the fact he can go to sleep in our bed without milk means he doesn't actually need the milk, it's just a way to get back to sleep. fair enough i suppose.
at the moment he's generally having 2 feeds a night. sometimes he wakes up at other times and just settles himself after a bit as well.
i'm just thinking about long term trying to get him to cut out night feeds and cut down wakings - so do you think this would be better achieved by not feeding him and just bringing him into our bed? or feeding him and keeping him in his cot?
it's probably 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. but wondering if anyone has any special insight...

MegBusset · 29/09/2007 21:52

Ah, we have this dilemma as well. If DS is in bed with me then he will often settle with a cuddle and a shush, whereas in the cot if he wakes fully then boob is all that works. So it's a question of which crutch seems like the best at that moment!

Amberjee · 29/09/2007 22:19

ironically we just had a weird hour where ds had to be in bed with me AND on the boob.
but now he is back in his cot amazingly.

EffiePerine · 30/09/2007 08:14

Amber: no idea re the night weaning, but my instinct woul dbe to try bringing him into bed instead as he would still have the comfort without the milk IYSWIM.

\I'm bracing myself and tring thr cot again net week - it has been so much easier to settle DS to sleep in our bed, but now he's settled down into a regular pattern again (asleep 7:30-8pm, awake 7:30-8am, not counting night wakings!) might be an idea to try the cot again... not speding hours on it though. If he doesn't settle in the cot after 3 tries it's back on the bed and try again the next night. I don't want to get too stressed about it, but it would be nice to have the bed to ourselves occasionally! Wish me luck...

Re wakings, seemt ohave settled into a pattern of waking about 3 times with at least one long stretch. I'm half asleep though all the wakings, so couldn't tell you the times!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Tam! Hope you have a lovely time in Dublin. I'm sure your DS will be much better after you get back and will be enjoying being spoilt by his grandma!

Meg: hope you had a better night.

Amber: did you shake off your cold? I swear by hot whisky and lemon (if you like the taste).

DS also dida long nap yesteday, v unusual as he was a) in the pushchair and b) inside. Was on the way to a friend's house and he fell asleep on the bus, slept through lunch and woke at about 2:30! He seems to be getting into this new pattern of 1 nap a day, but it does means he gets v v tired and cranky towards the end of the morning.

Oh, and got a lovely little duffle coat for DS in H&M - £10! They have some nice stuff atm so would recommend a look

gingerninja · 30/09/2007 09:11

ehum, I think you'll find that 33 is the coolest age to be

Happy birthday Tam, hope Dublin is good.

Amber, I'd be inclined to agree with ep. Hopefully he's just waking for milk and when that stops you may solve the night wakings. We're generally getting longer in the night before we have to take her into bed and once you do stop feeding in the night the wakings are easier (unless you're like me and can't get back to sleep when you've been woken). Sounds like you're having a lovely time with DS while DH is away and I don't think that sounds odd at all. Enjoy it!

for those of you with poorly children. EP, good luck on the cot.

gingerninja · 30/09/2007 09:13

Oh, forgot to mention. Pantsarama night. Mamouth screamathon at 11-12.30 then up for the day at 4.50 with one waking in there somewhere

gingerninja · 30/09/2007 09:18

Meg, Coram's fields looks great.

MegBusset · 30/09/2007 09:21

Morning all. Ginger for pants night and esp. for the early morning (much worse now it's getting darker imo).

EP hope it works out with the cot. Three wakings is doable, I find.

Our night was not too awful considering how snotty the poor lad is. Awake 10, 1, 3 (in bed with me) then one more waking before 7. Gave Medised at bedtime and 1 but didn't seem to help the snot too much. Deffo feeling a bit sorry for himself today.

Tamdin · 30/09/2007 20:33

hi everyone

had great time in dublin. hotel was fabulous. The most comfortable bed i've ever slept in.
unfortuantely don't feel well rested as we were out until 4am and i had ordered breakfast for 10 so only got 6 hours sleep but as we all know that's pretty do-able!

made it back home by 3ish to collect ds from mum and dad but he's still very unwell. mum had actually been crying because she was so worried about him
He has so little eneregy and a high temp. if no better overnight will take him back to gp again.

gotta go he's up (3rd time since bed)

MegBusset · 30/09/2007 21:04

Tam for your break but for poorly DS, hope he's feeling a bit better in the morning. Not on the same scale but I have been wiping up rivers of snot all day, not much fun!

Amberjee · 30/09/2007 23:37

your poor ds tam, hope he is feeling better soon. glad you had fun though!
i went to movies tonight and left ds in capable hands of dh, and he hasn't woken once. blardy hour long screaming on sat night when dh was away!!! he sure knows how to time it.

skirmish · 01/10/2007 07:57

morning all

happy birthday tams glad you had a good weekend in dublin but bugger ds is still unwell

fairly ok weekend here. Slept in til 6.15 both days, but only bloody 5.15 this morning, and rather cranky as well - terrific. Will prob be stuck in house all day with this horrid weather as well!

hope everyone else had good nights

tibsy · 01/10/2007 09:14

hello all my lovelies

HAPPY BIRTHDAY for yesterday Tam ...i had a mini breakdown on my 30th and agree with ginger that 33 is the best age to be for your friends homebirth, so pleased it all went well. for poor ds tho, i had recurring tonsilitis as a littley apparently, although cant remember, hope he bucks up soon

amber hope the night weaning thing going ok and you're feeling better. i went out on sat night and dd only woke once for dh makes me wonder sometimes

and a big hello to meggy, ginger, ep, skirmish and all that are loitering

skirmish for your 5.15 start, hope you get some rest today...meant to ask, will your 2 share the same birthday month? was trying to figure it out. my 2 do, ds was 13 on the 19th of aug and dd was 1 on the 27th aug.

our sleep ok ish. last night she was restless but didnt need feeding til 4.30, so i was pleased with that

MegBusset · 01/10/2007 09:20

Morning Amber, Tibs, Skirmish

Tibs, August must be an expensive month for you!

Amber, do you leave any milk for LO when you go to the cinema? My parents are staying with us in a couple of weeks and I'm contemplating getting them to babysit while me and DH sneak off to the pub. But not sure whether to leave a bottle of EBM, seeing as a) he rarely feeds before 11ish and b) he's never had a bottle so not sure if he'd take it. Just sod's law that the one night we go out, he'd wake at 9 and refuse to settle

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 09:25

meg, i don't leave a bottle as Lo isn't very good at drinking them (will treat it as a toy in the day and have a drink, but not that much) and am pretty sure would just scream if we tried to give him one when he woke up at night. also i know that dh can deal with it. he probably has a lot better chance of rocking him back to sleep than getting him to take a bottle. it's a tough call. i guess you could leave it and no harm done. but i guess you have to stress to your parents that he might not take it and don't worry if he doesn't.

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 09:28

ps. meg, sometimes i think to myself 'well what's the worst that could happen?' i was worreid about going out last night as ds has been unsettled recently in the early evening and also been a bit of a milk monster, but i thought the worst that could happen is that he would cry in dh's arms until i got home. and i knew he had a good feed at 7 before i went out, so he wouldn't starve! i said to dh i was nervous about going out, but if i let that stop me, i may never get out!

MegBusset · 01/10/2007 09:38

Well, my mum keeps reminding me that she brought up three kids pretty much single-handed so she's perfectly capable of looking after one for the night! And he has been more settled in the evenings lately, so unless he's ill or teething I think it's time to be brave and go out...

Oh, last night was v good for us (though he did have Medised for his cold). Stirred once in the evening, then woke 11 then nothing til 4 then in bed with us til 7.

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 09:39

yay meg, your mum's right, she'll be fine and so will LO. go out and have fun!

tibsy · 01/10/2007 09:48

hi meggy and amber
meg i think your mum's right too. go out and have a nice time with your dh dd took ages before she would take a bottle. i tried every night for weeks and weeks before she would take it consistently, still prefers the boob tho for last night, sounds good to me

amber - i actually left dd awake on sat night. usually i get her to sleep before i go....had to text dp to check everything was ok tho!... dont think we'd be good mummies if we didnt worry a little bit

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 09:57

yeah, i left ds awake last night too. didn't mean to, but just ran out of time, but at least he'd had a good feed and dh settled him and he was fine.
glad your night was alright too tibs last night. we had a decent night, wakings at 12 and 5. the 12 one was just as i was getting to bed, so excellent timing and then a good long stretch. a bit hard to settle at 5, and was such a boob monster! but then back until nearly 8. ah bliss.
as for night weaning, that is a joke - ds has been regularly hurling himself at my boobs day and night, and if he can't get at my boobs, he'll just suck on my arm or neck or something. 9 month growth spurt anyone??

tibsy · 01/10/2007 10:04

i reckon amber....although having said that, dd a real boob monster too, think its cos shes got a cold tho and feeling a bit yucky bless your ds trying to suck your arm tho

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 10:08

yeah, i'm blaming it on a triple whammy, teething, possible cold plus 9 month growth spurt. LO is officially excused from his boob monster/clingy behaviour!

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 13:10

does anyone give their LOs aubergine?

Amberjee · 01/10/2007 16:22

ps. can anyone give me a lowdown on bed rails/guards. does anyone have the tomy one and how does it attach? would it be ok for our adult bed with wooden slats?

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