SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

Great news about nursery Ginger . Glad work is going well too.

Thanks to Amber and Meg for a lovely afternoon . DS tires himslef out with all the running around (the cafe at the Geffrye is a fascinating place if you're crawling and there are lots of people to shout at). We retired to the garden when the waitresses were getting a bit tense and so avoided being barred . I can report that Amber and Meg have extremely cute babies . And DS is now fast asleep!

We were thinking vaguely about a Xmas meet-up, poss at the weekend somewhere near Liverpool Street? Any thoughts?

Yes, it was lovely to meet your gorgeous DSes!

Mine, on the other hand, fought sleep all the way back and only conked out two stations from home, at 5pm!

Typical

DS still asleep! We must do this more often...

tibs - glad you got some jeans, esp when i recommended tkmaxx (i hate the place cos i just don't have the patience to deal with it!)

sounds like the meet up was fun

ginger - baby programme is on virgin 'on demand'. Checked last night, but haven't watched it yet, think they stay on for about a week or so

ok night here, shitty morning! Having been lulled into a false sense of security by ds, i assumed he wouldn't wake til 6 like previous morns, but oh no, little bugger decided to wake at 5am, and didn't even want cuddles! Eventually, back to sleep til half six in our bed...and now up for the day.

Have I got the only child in the world, that when put to bed late, he wakes even earlier than normal?!

morning all

skirmish grrr for your early start 5am is just to damned early to get up!
I have a friend who owns a fish wholesale business and he has started work at 3.30am for the last 15 years of his life!
it drives his wife mad because he has the monopoly on being tired!

glad you had a good meet up guys. Don't think i could make xmas one as requires flight hotel etc and we're away a few times in nov and dec.

good night here
I was out so dh put ds to bed
I came home at 12 and ds was still in his cot.
must have sensed I was back as he woke a few minutes later and came in with us.
woke at 7.15 for the day

the 7 hour stretches are becoming a regular thing and i'm liking them alot!

morning ladies!!

ginger so glad that dd is settling in. must make it so much easier for you

skirmish - i usually avoid it too, you need to be in the right frame of mind i find! for your early start. late bedtime doesnt help my lo to lie in either

meg, amber and EP - glad you had a nice afternoon. what happened with ds last night EP? did it help him sleep?

our night was a night of 2 halves. thankfully the crap half was before i went to bed. dd woke about 5 times before 10.30pm, when i went to bed and grabbed her for a cuddle. she slept til 5.45am when she woke for a feed. cant tell you what a difference having 7 hours of solid does for me

hope there were some more good uns out there
and some improvements in snottiness and coughs. dds is in full bloom now

ha ha..... x posted tam. check my identical glee at the 7 hour stretch!!!!!!

these babies have mummy radar i think. hope you had a nice evening tam

Morning all and of all those long stretches.

No such luck for us, though I think it was because his room was really chilly last night (we haven't quite sussed the heating yet). Woke quite a few times and came in with us at 3 as I felt bad leaving him alone in a cold room (I'm no Claire Verity ) and then slept til 7 with one brief wake-up.

Skirmish, I've been trying to put ds to bed around 8 instead of 7.30, trying to make the daylight saving adjustment a little smoother when it comes. but he seems to have been waking a whole 1 - 1.5 hours earlier because of it. go figure.
i was hoping that my ds might be so worn out by chasing EP's ds that he'd sleep through the night. But no. He did 2 wakings and a blardy early start.
i can attest that EP and Meg are both super mummies with super delicious bubbas.
yay for the 7 hour girls this morning!

Tam your nights are definately starting to look better on the whole.

Skirmish, my DD always wakes early but it seems quite common that the later they go to bed the earlier they rise.

I'd love a Christmas meet up. No idea where though. Nothing seems to be open around Liverpool Street at the weekends.

We had a pretty fabulous night. DD bed at 7.30 and nothing until 4.30!!!!
I woke at 2.30 and 4 wondering why she hadn't woken up and couldn't get back to sleep. When she woke at 4.30 I popped her in our bed because her room was cold too. She laid there for ages snuggled next to daddy and finally dropped off to sleep until I had to get up at 6.30.

Tam and co-sleepers of older babies, do you put your LO's under the quilt? I never used to but now she's a bit bigger I'm guessing it's OK. If it's warm I'll take her PJ trousers off and she doesn't wear a vest so I'm guesing she should be OK.

meg for that chilly bubba of yours. have put the heating on for the first time today. the freebie temp guage i got said 'warning' ......hope you figure yours out soon

amber for your early start love. think these bubs have got their own timezones myself

....now, what i want to know is, did you call each other by mumsnet or RL names?

hi ginger and for your night. i put dd under the quilt if/when she comes in with us. the only way i can get her to keep the covers on

called them by RL names, but secretly thought of them by MN names!

Ginger ds comes under the covers but he kicks them off pretty quickly when he gets too hot.
great night for you ginger

forgot to say this morning that ds didn't have any milk last night!
doesn't necessrliy mean he won't ever again but he's been eating so much recently he doesn't seem to want it.
he's grown so much in last week taht his jeans (18-24m) that needed turned up last week are now too small. it's a bit freaky really!

Tam: well done your DS! And growing so quickly as well . Am oping DS will eventually get the hang of eating food duringthe day and sleeping at night...

Much better nights for us - I'm crediting the meet-up . Asleep by 8ish, not a peep for a good couple of hours then another longer stretch (all in our bed). Last night I'm sure he didn't actually stir between 10pm and about 3! Counting on my fingers, that's just about sleeping through . He also had a good day nap-wise: at the cm and over 2 hrs of naps. He is being recognised in the supermarket as the talkative (i.e. shouty) baby no matter who he is with

Ginger: I put DS under the quily but he kicks the covers off . We had the oppositge prob last night heating was turned up too much so he got v hot and restless after about 3 and took a while to get off to sleep.

morning ep, morning all

big smiles here this morning

ds slept (well, dozed, i was too scared to open the door and check in case he saw me!) til 6.50am! Now that's almost 7!! Heard him stir and chat at 5am, but turned monitor down and left him too it . He must have gone back to sleep cos he is quite content this morning - long may it continue!

hope everyone else had good nights too

also, meant to ask before, what do you class as 'waking' during the night? up and screaming and full -on? or a slight wake where a couple of back rubs will send them back to sleep?

ginger - claire verity programme is on-demand - watched it yesterday (be warned though, you will be shaking your head at the screen!)

yay skirmish and yay ep! sounds like great nights. and LOL at your shouty baby EP. I just have that great image of him sitting forward in his stroller checking out all the going ons
we had an average night. a bit of sleeping, a bit of screaming, a bit of cuddling, a bit of feeding. it wasn't horrible though, so that's something.
skirmish, a waking is what you make it! since ds is in the other room mostly, if i have to go in there, it's a waking to me.

morning!!!
EP at your night, fantastic....more of those for you i hope. at your 'famous' bubba, he sounds adorable

skirmish - for your night, and your content bubs. cant turn the monitor down here as shes right next to me

Amber for your night too love. ours sounds about the same as yours, not brill, but not hideous either.......although at one point in the evening i did bring dd down for a cuddle and a bf as she just wouldnt settle. as soon as i did, wouldnt yo know, she dropped off as sound as anything guess she just wanted a cootch

tam, yey for your growing boy and your no milk night. hope it was the same for you last night too

and morning to everyone else

morning all

Ep and Skirmish for your nights. 10-3 good stretch ep.
Ds is also well known in our local sainsbury as the shouty one as he shouts hello at EVERYONE and if they don't reply he keeps going until they do!

Tibs and amber for your good(ish) nights too.

skirmish I count a waking as anything that lasts a few minutes and requires attention eg dummy back in, repositioning or rubbing of back.

our night was good
bed at 7.30 (from awake in cot)
woke at 11 (in with us)
woke at 7 for the day

another night of no milk!!!

Morning all and for the good nights.

We had a good evening (much appreciated as DH had gone to the pub so I watched Pirates Of The Caribbean 3) and he didn't wake for boob til 11. Then was pretty unsettled from 1-2, so when he woke again around 3 was too tired to try to get him back in the cot, so brought him into bed and he slept til 7. So I guess there were a couple of good stretches in there.

I still feel rough this morning, though -- had two fillings done yesterday and my mouth still hurts from the injections. Ouch.

at EP's loud DS in the supermarket!

Skirmish, I count as a waking anything that means I have to get him out of the cot!

X-posted Tam, that's great news on the milk front.

tam for your milkless night!!

meg - for johnny depp but for your poor mouth