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Feel like I’ve failed as a mum

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HidingUnderTheSofa · 22/07/2018 14:13

First time mum to a four month old baby, exclusively breastfed. Night time sleep was gradually getting better week by week until 11 weeks when he did a five hour stretch at the beginning of the night.

It was like a switch was flicked- he went from two wake ups/feeds on a good night to anything from four to eight. Longest stretch of the night is generally two to three hours and wake ups are anything from one to two hours for the rest of the night. Night feeds are generally ten to twenty minutes long.

Naps are also a disaster. He wakes up between 25 and 45 minutes after falling asleep. Will generally fall asleep without too much fuss in the pram but naps in the crib involve much more settling.

After six weeks of very broken sleep (and four months in total of poor sleep) I am exhausted and I feel like an utter failure as a parent. I am crying a lot out of both exhaustion and feelings of worthlessness because I feel I am failing so badly. I am surrounded by mum friends whose babies are sleeping much better than my son. I

I am feeling especially awful because my in laws are staying at the moment and of course all of their other grandchildren are/were champion sleepers as babies.

I have read so many sleep books and have tried to extend daytime naps with the hope of improving night time sleep- I can’t get him to settle back to sleep after the 45 minute wake up however hard I try but he’s clearly still tired when he wakes up.

I’ve had a bedtime routine since he was six weeks old and put him down to sleep when he’s sleepy but still awake...but it makes no difference. Last night he still woke up after two hours and four or five times after that.

I’m finding it increasingly hard to settle him down to sleep for naps or at night which is really upsetting too.

I am so, so sad. I feel like I’m failing my son.

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rubyroot · 15/09/2018 10:12

@Ekphrasis- it will get better and then if you’re unlucky will be followed by another regression. At 6 months. I’m just waiting for the 9 month one. I’m hoping that this is a regression we won’t experience as had all the other ones 🤞🏼

LetThemEatCheese · 16/09/2018 20:01

@BlueMoon33 glad the sleepyhead is working well for you. Sooo many people rave about them. We have a borrowed one that DS is now way too big for unfortunately. He never seemed that taken with it when he was smaller so I’m not that keen to get the larger version, but appreciate the suggestion Smile

@FortheloveofJames oh no that’s awful about the hotel!!! I’m impressed that you can laugh about it now! I don’t think I ever would be able to.

@Cottipus wishing you lots of luck with the settling in sessions this week; hope that they go really smoothly. I understand the mixed feelings about going back to work. I am waiting to find out if I can go back to my old job and feel very torn in two about it all. I have read the Sleep board a lot and have seen lots of mums say that weirdly they were able to cope with disrupted sleep once back at work way better than they would have imagined. I will have my fingers crossed that your DD’s sleep improves before you’re back at work though Smile
Will report back on the sleep consultant in due course!

Sorry will come back to reply some more to other people’s messages- my eyes are getting very heavy which means I should probably try to sleep...for all of two hours til the first wake up...please don’t be less than that!!!!!!!

PavlovaFaith · 16/09/2018 20:07

@HidingUnderTheSofa hi OP I hope things are improving... if not I've just bought a myhummy (just the most basic as I didn't want to fork out for it not to work)

NOW I WANT TO BUY THEM ALL!

DS (6 months) was waking 4 times a night and EBF so all me. We're on night 3 of myhummy tonight and last night he woke once. I can't believe it's working. Give it a try Brew

catcity · 17/09/2018 21:28

Hi Op, I've been thinking about your situation since I last commented and I haven't read the whole thread since then but I was wondering if there was a chance your baby had an allergy to something you are eating or drinking and that is why they're waking up so soon after falling asleep....because they're in some kind of pain?! I'm only thinking this because it sounds very similar to a woman at a baby group I went to with dd1 years ago who's baby ended up needing special milk. Hope you don't mind me suggesting it as a possibility.

WhenCanISleepAgain · 17/09/2018 22:37

Placemarking. I can’t no longer face people asking whether DS is ‘sleeping through’ at 7 months. I’m too ashamed to give them the real picture which is that last night he went to aleep at 845 and then woke up to breastfeed at:
9.20
11.25
12.40
1.30
3.20-4.10
5.20
5.40
6.00
Before getting up at 7.
Tonight I tried what I think is pick up put down. It went well for over an hour except that he wasn’t at all sleepy and then got hysterical so I breastfed him to sleep.
He has never slept well but did at one point (pre-4 month sleep regression) sleep for at least one block of 4-5 hours.

brimfullofasha · 17/09/2018 23:09

I really feel for you. It is so hard looking after a little baby especially with chronic sleep deprivation. The 4 month sleep regression is really tough. I had two non-sleeping babies and I will never forget that crushing exhaustion. It did get better though little by little.

What I learnt with my second non-sleeper is do whatever works and don't worry about what others are doing or creating bad habits. Both my babies liked motion to sleep so I took them out in their prams or the sling for naps. They slept in the cot in the end.

I found co-sleeping tough but could cope with a bedside crib where I felt I had my own space to some extent.

Hang in there- it will get better!

HidingUnderTheSofa · 19/09/2018 09:50

Sorry, I confusingly posted from my other username the other day. Currently hiding out in the living room crying after 45 minutes of trying to get DS to nap in his cot. I feel completely screwed because he’s not sleeping well in the pram anymore and I end up very stressed out because of course I can’t prevent all the different noises outside that might wake him up- people talking as they pass us, a car door slamming, a car driving by quickly etc etc. I’ve been finding pram walks increasingly stressful because I’m just on edge the whole time hoping that there’s no sudden noise that’ll wake him up but of course there always is- I can’t make the world quiet! So I thought maybe he needs the darkness and quiet of his cot these days, you know because babies seem to change all the time.

But no, won’t sleep there either. White noise, lullaby playing, me singing, holding in my arms, lying him down but hand on his chest, not touching him but gently shhhing...I have tried the whole lot. Nothing works. He screams and I can feel anger and frustration rising in me. So I give up. I’m trying to cry quietly so he doesn’t hear me and freak out. But I need a big sob. And a hug. But there’s no one to hug me so off to eat a vat of chocolate instead.

@brimfullofasha I’ve tried it Sad he doesn’t co sleep well. Wakes up just as much when in bed with me if not more. Way too big for his bedside crib.

I can’t work him out at all. I don’t know what he wants. Everything I try seems to be the wrong thing.

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Ekphrasis · 19/09/2018 14:11

Shite night last night but I'm holding on to the fact that the previous night was roughly every 2.5 hours which I can handle.

Last night was cos of snot which prevented burps coming up and caused more reflux.

Tonight he's sleeping on me as at least I can just wiggle him a little and he'll burp/ posset and we both go back to sleep.

Ekphrasis · 19/09/2018 14:15

I know he can do better if I tank him up before bed. And cosleepijg helps.

Op regarding naps I found this helpful. I don't do cots. If he falls asleep in the sling I sometimes dump him on the bed, and I'll feed to sleep on the bed. Just the burp issue at the mo.

www.bellybelly.com.au/baby-sleep/catnapping-answer-to-better-baby-sleep/

My other top tip is Do Not Look At The Time (unless you think they've slept for agggeees.)

Cottipus · 19/09/2018 19:20

I think you probably have an active, alert baby. DD is one, she’s either 100mph or asleep. I did the paperwork session at nursery this week and she managed to bump her head whilst cruising with her keyworker, steal the other baby’s toys and smear her sandwich all over the carpet and the paperwork. I think she was the youngest there and all these older babies sitting nicely just stared at her as she pinged their socks!

Nursery seem to think she’ll be fine- she had just fallen asleep when I went in to collect her, and she napped for her grandma today when I popped into work. So I know she can sleep without me! Though she did cry at me when I returned, as though to punish me?

Unfortunately night sleep has just worsened again. She was up most hours last night and DH is away so there’s no-one to give me any peace. I don’t know when it will get better. I think I’ll cope when I return to work, it was nice to pop in and have a break!

She’s not getting on with her cot anymore, really struggles to settle there. Been thinking about setting up a mattress on the floor arrangement. Tried bringing her into my bed at first feed last night but she got frustrated with me holding her. But cries in the cot, I can’t win!

Cottipus · 19/09/2018 19:27

@ekphrasis really interesting article, I sort of applied this philosophy after trying (and failing) to get DD into a nap routine recommended by “sleep experts”.

HidingUnderTheSofa · 19/09/2018 20:10

Oh @Cottipus I’m really sorry to hear that sleep has got worse at your end. Genuinely I was really pleased that you’d had some improvement and had hoped that things would continue to go up and up for you. And so much worse when your husband isn’t around and you’ve got no break whatsoever. I know it’s no help at all but sending sympathy your way Flowers I’m really sorry that you’ve been up so much in the night. You always sound so tough and seem to be able to grit your teeth and get on with things really well.

Yes DS is definitely very alert, always has been. Currently tries to lunge at anything that takes his fancy. Is obsessed with trying to knock a particular lamp over and I opened the fridge earlier while holding him which he took as his opportunity to dive and grab at anything he could. Can’t even think about how I’m going to cope when he can crawl!!

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Cottipus · 20/09/2018 13:32

@hidingunderthesofa thanks for your support! Honestly, it’s not that bad, I remember feeling like you did when DD was your DS’ age and then something just clicked and the shit sleep didn’t trouble me as much anymore.

I’m sorry that nothing seems to be working anymore for naps, it does make everything so much harder. I know it’s a stupid question but could you be misreading his tired signs? DD’s tired signs and boredom signs are almost identical and I’ve made (and still make) the mistake of trying to put her down for a nap and she’s shouted at me because she’s frustrated rather than tired.

DD had a 2 hr session at nursery today, she was upset on the journey home then sparked out on me when we got home, I think it’s just all exhausted her!

Blueberrycheesecake1 · 20/09/2018 14:02

I'm so sorry to hear and it's so easy to think you're the only one awake in the night / early morning when they decide the day has started. You are definitely not alone. It is so tough.

What saved me was naps in the sling, even if woken up he would settle back down. Also sometimes they cry because they are tired but if you keep on walking they will settle. At 4 months I would go out for a walk in the sling every 1.45 hours for 45 minutes. Think of it as good exercise! Sometimes I was so tired I would have tears streaming down my eyes but I honestly didn't care.

At that age he only ever did 45 minutes naps but I didn't try lengthen them as it was pointless, so I just had 4 naps a day. He is now 8 months and I have to wake him from naps, he just started doing it himself.

Good luck and try get as much help as possible. There is a big difference between a 4 month old and an 8 month old who is happy to entertain themselves.

Choccyhobnob · 20/09/2018 16:40

I was all of you 2.5 years ago. So embarrassed when people asked if he was sleeping through, breastfeeding every hour through the night, sitting upright in bed holding him between 7pm and 7am between the ages of 4 and 6 months because he WOULD NOT BE PUT DOWN and finally being guilted into trying CIO as I was told I was failing DS by not teaching him to self soothe. I felt forced into giving him formula before bed as it would fill him up and he'd sleep (spoiler alert - he still woke up after an hour)

I'm telling you now it's NOTHING you have or haven't done, you're NOT damaging or spoiling your baby by feeding or cuddling them all night and just do whatever the hell you need to do. I had to co sleep, there was just no way I could function trying to settle him in a cot for hours at a time while he cried.

I sat on my arse for hours during the day as he would only sleep on me. The house was a bomb site but I had no choice.

At 15 months or so a switch flipped and he started napping for 1.5 hours at a time in the pram. At 18 months he started doing 4 hour stretches in a bed without me and at 23 months he slept through for the first time and now at 3 it's hit or miss but pretty good.

I know it is utter shit right now but they will sleep when they're ready! I promise!

Movablefeast · 20/09/2018 16:50

I am so sorry I haven’t read the thread OP but have you tried a rocking sleep device, basically it’s an automatic rocking chair. When they are very small you have a bassinet but once they are sitting it is a comfy chair. I got one for my second and would sit her in it awake but sleepy and she would fall asleep. I am not suggesting it obviously for long sleeps but it was just good to be able to put her down happily as he liked to be held so much. The clicking, whirring sound of the motion actually seemed to be part the hypnosis that sent her to sleep. We started using it when she was 3 or 4 months old.

Movablefeast · 20/09/2018 16:58

They are basically like a swing, called a glinder, swing or similar. They basically rock the baby to sleep and you can keep it gently rocking while they sleep or switch off the motor once they are asleep. I never did this with my first but was desperate for some regular naps (for baby and mum!) with no. 2. It was a lifesaver.

BTW I now have 3 teens who all sleep like rocks and have to be dragged out of bed in the morning. So do whatever you need to do to survive because any idea that you will ruin any sleep pattern is nonsense. They all co-slept with us for years (for survival) and they are all absolutely fine and well adjusted.

Movablefeast · 20/09/2018 16:58

glider! agggh! Sorry about typos!

BlueMoon33 · 20/09/2018 21:12

My baby’s new thing is beating me up whilst feeding! We were up from 3.30 till 6am, hitting me in the boobs and kicking me in the stomach whilst feeding!
Currently going through the same motions at the moment, whilst I wait for him to get tired and crash out. Starts off cute, then gets bloody annoying pretty quick!

Cottipus · 26/09/2018 21:14

@hidingunderthesofa just checking in, is everything ok? Are you on solids yet?

Not much different here- DD still waking a lot, very nearly crawling, don’t think walking is far off either. Crossing my fingers that once she masters being mobile we might get some better sleeps! (We can but hope)

Ekphrasis · 01/10/2018 07:28

Choccy, your post does at least help me believe we may get better as he doesn't mind being put down; just wakes 20 mins later if he's got the teeniest tiniest burp. When in the newborn fuzzy stage I think he sucked his fingers through it; won't do that now. I can dupe him into a dummy with stealth but it doesn't always last...

Hourly from 2 am, I think every 2 before that. I Do seem to be able to sleep through the first 5 hours though and micro doze from 3. WEIRD dreams!!

Bubbagirl · 01/10/2018 13:08

I just wanted to share with anyone on this thread who is considering sleep training or contacting a sleep consultant there is a lady I found on Facebook who is doing a thing called sleeptober (5 days of free sleep advice -videos, q&a etc all done through Facebook).
She sounds really lovely on the video I just watched and I've just signed up for the week myself (it's just joining a Fb group).
Her page is called "sleep time baby" and she is Kate Cohen and then the separate group u join for the course is called sleeptober but u can just click through from her Fb page)
Just wanted to share if anyone else is like me and thinking about sleep consultant but isn't quite ready to take that leap (or fork out that cash!) just yet.

HidingUnderTheSofa · 09/10/2018 15:55

I am not coping. Can someone tell me realistically what support I can expect if I go to my GP and tell her I can’t cope? Is my card so to speak as a mother in terms of stuff on my medical records to say that I’m not a good mother/a vulnerable mother.

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HidingUnderTheSofa · 09/10/2018 15:56

I need to take a breather. I can leave DS safely strapped in his pram for ten minutes cant I. I just need to cry and get some of it out.

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Bubbagirl · 09/10/2018 16:16

Your gp "should" give you a lot of support. If they don't report them and ask to see a different doc.

Yes you absolutely can leave baby strapped in pram if you need a 10 min break. Taking that break is important at times like this.

I really feel for you @Hiding please get the support you need. You are an amazing mum it has nothing to do with that I promise.

Please keep us updated on how you are.

Sending you a huge hug xx