We're still not sleeping

[Meepmoop]

New thread for those whose babies are avoiding sleeping through.

My DS is now 11 months old today..

Babies wide awake and full of beans at 7am, I am however absolutely fooked! Why is it it only 9am? 😩😩
I don't want to wish the days away but roll on bedtime.

Hey guys. I haven't been around in a while because we had been in a reasonable sleep situation. Notice the HAD.

He had his 12 month needles on Tuesday and it's gone to shit since. No two nights have been the same. I'm hoping he's just feeling a bit ill and it'll settle soon but he was fine yesterday during the day but as soon as bedtime came it was hysteria.

Last night was bed at 7, hysterical screaming as soon as he was put down. Cried for a while then settled with a lot of work and slept briefly, woke and repeated that process. Woke another 3-4 times before 10 howling but not always fully awake.
Woke at 10.30 and didn't go back to sleep until 12, was grumbly but also wanting to play despite being clearly knackered. Slept soundly from 12-6 thank god.

Other nights have been a mix of repeated wake ups every 30-60 minutes, unsettled sleep next to one of us, hours awake in the middle of the night...

So a 2 hour nap yesterday in cot. Great. Went to bed (grumpily) for DH while I went out (first time ever I've left for bedtime).
Woke for a feed just after I came home. Fine. Slept 4 hour chunk. GREAT.

Then I saw part of every other hour after midnight til I gave up trying to feed him back to sleep at 6:40 (normally works and very rare he's up before 7)

More steps today, including from me to my mum and an hour at nursery for settling in session. No idea what his lunch contained but he was pretty wired when he got back and only putting him in pram at 2 got him to sleep (he's normally napping between 11 and 12). But he had a good time at nursery, settled better than weds.

Off to MIL for 2 nights. So travel cot and everything weird/ travel at bedtime. May stash small gin and tonic in bag

So my two sleep robbers have swapped!!! Ds15mo is doing pretty well, sleeping through or up for a quick drink of water once, crossing everything and touching wood! But dd who is nearly 4 is currently yelling for me 3+ times a night!!! 😴 You've gotta laugh...

DS woke up and it's taken me three hours to get him back to sleep! He just laughed himself awake, why is he laughing in his sleep.

I've found I can put him in his cot without him crying if I put my hand in it. However he just rolls around like a loon for ages until I get annoyed/bored and pick him up.

Do you think I should just persevere and hope he will eventually go sleep?

We're falling out with each other as he just wants to pull my hair and squirm around. If I try to rock him he just screams until he gives up. Bit stuck with what to do

@meepmoop your DS sounds just like my DD last night. I am shattered. She hasn’t slept well since 3 months. I used to feed to sleep but this is no longer working. I feel so sad that I can’t get her to sleep. She seems to be sad too as she is exhausted like me :( help!

Very quiet on here, how is everyone doing? We had the worst night for a while, started off promisingly with a 3hr stretch until 10pm... followed by 3hrs of bring awake Nd hysterical. Heartbreaking. I just can't work out what's going on

I have been lurking on and off here. DS just turned 1 last week. He has very rarely slept through but I am finding it so tough lately. I am back to work & just exhausted. So hard not to be frustrated with the kids on my days of I have such a short fuse with the lack of sleep. Nice to know though I am not alone

Hi @yobo You're not alone.

My DD is 8 months. A good night is two or three wake ups. She usually wakes up 30mins after going to bed, and we get an hour of crying (not overtiredness... She does it whether it's been a good or bad day of naps). If I'm lucky she can go straight back down after a feed. She then usually next wakes at 10 or 11 ish. I always thought babies started lengthening their sleep the first part of the night?!

She never wakes at the same time each night. My SIL thinks I should be going out one night a week to get some me time. She had a baby who always slept until 1am... I always give baby boob so no chance of an evening out!

I haven't managed an evening out yet although I stopped breastfeeding him at 10 months, DP has only just managed to start giving him nighttime bottle without a screamfest!
Little wins and baby steps though are all I can manage now. I'm so exhausted and emotional I just couldn't do it any other way! He has just taken a few more steps today though so deep down I know there is at least one night's sleep on the horizon!
My DD always woke lots at beginning of night before I went to bed but then she was out like a light. He is opposite, sleeps soundly in eve then restless all night!
Sending sleepy vibes to all these babies!!!

I would say we are about there! Ds is 15 months. What's finally sorted the last few issues has been him dropping to one nap. So I would say for us sleep consultant got me and dh on the same page, sleep training helped, but also he's just grown out of things! He normally sleeps through now unless something is wrong, like teething, and wakes after 6am. Hallelujah!!! 🙌

5am wake up gah! Only 1 wake ups but we were late to bed and up early so I'm sure there would be some more of he was in bed longer

We were up from 10.30-12.30, 2.30-3 and 4.55-5.15. There was nothing wrong with him, he just couldn't get back to sleep

After a sickness bug, DS did a night with only 3 wakes (11, 3, 6) and drifted off in cot besides us. He did settle for DH overnight while I was puking once or twice too.

He's better at going to sleep, in cot. For naps and bedtime. There is hope til next regression

Hi all! Not slept at all tonight so just checking in because there's no point in trying to sleep! We've had an awful run of nights. Top teeth coming in and colds for us all. Just when I think it can't get any worse. It does. I have genuinely given up any hope of it improving. I would give anything for a night of even 4 wake ups. I don't know how I'm surviving this.

So DS has decided to start getting very cross and angry high pitched squealing crying at bedtime. Very unpleasant. Wouldn't go back down at 5am this morning either so ended up with him sleeping head on one shoulder and across my neck. Wasn't for being shifted.

Looks like our brief run of things being manageable has ended

My 11 month has never slept through. I hate the idea of sleep training but might crack

How is everyone?

Dd is poorly and is on antibiotics. Sleep has been HORRENDOUS again

@ginunicorn

I'm 14 mo in. I will not EVER sleep train.

I cope with DH support and with early bedtimes.

You don't ever have to and TBH, people report how they're sleep training 'again' so how is it even working for them?

Honestly I don’t think I could do through with it. It would break my heart to leave her crying. I am going back to work soon though and handling all the wake ups myself so feel like I might go mad at the moment.

I really don’t know what I have done wrong with her sleep. Even naps are a disaster.

@GinUnicorn it's not you, please don't blame yourself xx

Does co-sleeping work for you? Dd is 13 months and when she's in with us she tends to sleep better and it means that I can settle her when she does wake straight away without moving instead of getting up, walking across the landing and waking up more and her having to wait and therefore getting agitated.

I'm back at work now and it's surprising how you cope x

Sleep training doesn't necessarily mean leaving to cry! It can mean a whole host of things.

Thanks FrozenMargarita just sometimes feels like everyone else has the sleep sorted.

Haypanky I thought sleep training involved controlled crying? I’ll do some research to see if there is a gentler method.

I think sleep training is an umbrella term for supporting your baby to learn to go to sleep and stay asleep independently. Under that umbrella is everything from the no-cry sleep solutions through to full cry it out and back again. I had a Google and found a list of five methods here, but there are other lists and descriptions out there... www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/5-sleep-training-methods-explained/ Hope this is useful /of interest :)

Ultimately its whatever works for you and your bub isn't it, a personal decision based on ethos and circumstances.