Sleep is for the Weak! we got too big?!!??!?!!??

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can you believe that?! we got too big?
we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

hola ladies!!!
amber - really pleased to have you back although not, iyswim ..... you've been feeling rotten tho. do let us know how the sleep nanny works out, am interested as to what they do
redbeki, i'm sure the lavender has helped, the night where she slept til 5.50am, i went to bed and noticed that her breathing was different, she seemed to be sleeping more soundly iyswim? i feel a bit as i do actually work with oils, but had discounted lavender as it didnt seem to work before... so thankyou for inspiring me to give it another go
anyway,.. cruise, last night wasnt as good, but i'm sure she is sleeping better, shes not waking after 30 mins of being put down like before
our night
bed at 8pm
murmurs at 10.30pm
woke at 12.30am (think that was my fault tho as had put covers on her and shut window, it was bloody hot in room too
fed 3am
up for day at 7.15am
i think the reason she needed a feed was because we'd been out during the day so i hadnt managed to fill her up as much!!
will def continue with lavender and see how it goes. shes settled a lot better as well am def feeling more alive

oh god, sorry, me me me me me... hope everyone else had good nights, i know you two (cruise and redbeki) did

very quick hello. usual night for us. bed at 8 up at 12 and 4 for 5 min each time. will try and catch up properly with you all tomorrow x

I'm so pleased you used the lavender TIBSY.It's brilliant that it's worked for someone else.I thought it was too good to be true.It still seems to be working for us.

Tibsy, great stuff. I'm gonna give the lavender another shot. We had a horrid night although it started well. Bed at 7 and not a peep until 11. Didn't settle so into bed with us and she cried on and off and pinched and slapped and generally thrashed about until about 1. Slept until 5 when she thought it was time to get up. Eventualy back to sleep at 6.30 until 7.45 (She fed at 5) So how did she go to bed so well and then take an eternity to settle? I didn't feed her because I really didn't think she needed it. We're having to many nights like this at the mo so we're going to have to make more of an effort to keep her in her cot although not tonight as we've been out all day and are bushed. Anyway, there is really no sense in how one night she can drop off on her own with no one in the room like she did on a couple of occasions this week and then on other nights need me to literally lay down with her. Anyways, I'm having some wine so not bothering about it too much.

Sleep tight all

hello, yay for tibs and tam, boo for ginger's bad night.

i tried the lavender for 2 nights, but hasn't made improvement sigh. last night was horrid. a little bit my fault for leaving him in bed after he fed twice, neither of us actually sleep well like that and he woke up an hour later, had to transfer to cot, cue another hour sleep, etc. etc. i think he only got one 2 hour stretch last night, the rest were 1.5 and 1. aiiii!

Amber: sorry you had another bad night. OUrs not great, but then he napped in his cot this morning for at least 45 mins and then slept in the car for over 1.5 hours. Back from MILs so expecting an unsettled night again as he gets used to his cot and having less people around! We had a nice few days, and I caught up on some sleep. DS trying his best to move but not getting very far. He's also eating much better, partly I suspect because we've got into a definite routine of meal times. Will this help? Pron not . Also have lafvendar oil so will try...

morning all. gues what......................
He did it
went to bed at 8- woke at 6.00am!!!
he's been to bed later than normal due to all the party going's ons and has still got his cold so think he just needed the sleep!
doubt he'll ever repeat it but can officially saw now that he has slept through the night.
I got about 9 hours sleep too so feel good. Got so much to do today. fly to portugal tomorrow morning. need to check in at 4am!so need to go to bed tonight with everything ready to leave as soon as we're showered and had breakfast. do you think i should leave ds in his pj's and change him into clothes on the plane/airport?
we'll be waking him about 3 and though maybe the less i disturbed him the more likely he is to sleep in the car and in his buggy at the airport

Yaaay Tamdin

Want to send some sleepy vibes to DS? 2 hr wakings again... he did have good naps yesterday though.

Wdkeep DS in pjs btw - prob more comfy for the flight. Have a great holiday!

hiya lovelies and tam, bloody sleeptastic!!!!!! well done ds am SO pleased for you, you deserve it after nearly 15 months as swizz says, i'd keep lo in pjs, have a fab time and we want all the goss when you get back
amber and ginger, sorry for your crappola nights
swizz - i wish i could get dds' eating sorted, some days she does great, others, she doesnt seem bothered at all. i guess they have days when not too hungry as well? its just it does reflect on how she sleeps.....
our night
bed 7pm
fed 2.30am
woke 6.30am
not as good as yours tam but it'll ding dang do for me

anyway happy bank hols girlies and los, hope you all have a great day

thanks swizz. I remember the 2 hour wakings so clearly so i really do sympathise. what does he do when he wakes up? is he hungry? with ds i think he wakes because he doesn't eat enough during the day (as much as i try) and also for the comfort/habit of checking we're still there. last night was definitely a fluke. Just goes to show you though that no matter what they can always surprise you when you least expect it. The ironic thing about last night was before he went to bed i said to dh that his routine had gone to pot due to not being well and co-sleeping more than ever and then having friends to stay etc. we decided to just go with the flow because of portugal(we'll prob co-sleep on hols)and try and sort him out when we get back.....and what does he go and do but sleeps through the night in his cot! i was not expecting that!

x posted tibs. for your good night.
yes think i will keep ds in pyjamas. only thing is he's out grown his slippers so it'll be pj's and shoes which may look a bit odd but hopefully at 4am the style police won't be at the airport!

Ah Tam, am so happy for you. I have written that thread in my head so many times. Can't wait to actually do it for real.
Tibsy for you too.

Our night. Bed with us at 11. Awoke at 1,3 and 5 fed at 5 and slept until 7. None of the wakings lasted too long in fairness but she was next to me so it was a lot easier. I just don't think I've got the stamina to keep her in her cot in the night. I'm just living in the hope that she'll grow out of it once she gets more active and starts eating better. I know, I'm kidding myself

tamdin - weeeeeeeeeeeeeee wooooooooooooooooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
unbelievable!!!! lets hope for many many repeats of that.

we had the sleep nanny last night and guess what - he only woke up twice for feeds, then up at 6.30. the sleep nanny sure had an easy night!! she is coming for two more nights - I wonder what LO will get up to? Maybe he knows he's under the microscope....

he did wake up when we were having dinner and i normally would have gone up there to settle him, but she said wait until we finished dinner, he was just doing this tired sounding whinging thing, and so we did and he went back to sleep in about 10 mins.

oh and yay for tibs tooo (lets not forget your LO in the glory of tamdin's!)

oooh, where did everyone go? alseep?

well, seems like i'm talking to myself, guess what. i just got up and fed him at 12 and 4 again! he woke up at 10.30 but whinged himself back to sleep quite quickly and then at 6am he did the same, and got up at 7.30! he has never gotten up at 7.30 before
i don't know what this sleep nanny did, but it sure is working ... i just hope it lasts, i feel like a new woman.

Asleep - hah! Still waking every 2 hours and quite difficult to get him back to sleep - think he must be growing again... and once again mostly awake from about 5am(snore)

Amber: what did the sleep nanny do? Tell all!

Think one of our probs is trying to get LO to sleep a bit too early - he has his bath between 6 and 6:30 and the closer to 6:30 the better he tends to sleep. Back at work this week, which tends to mean later bedtime as I don't get home till 6ish.

Hope everyone enjoyed the weekend, despite the rain!

oh swizz you poor thing, its so hard.

this has been the easiest few hundred quid the sleep nanny has ever earned. i don't know what she did - LO has just been sleeping better than ever before while she has been there. the only things i can think that might have made a difference:

1. made me more confident and LO has picked up on my determination/no fuss attitude
2. made me more conscious of working out a good nap routine (at home most of the time)
3. made me wait and listen to his crying before rushing in to his room, a lot of the time it is just general moaning/whinging and he can actually go backt o sleep if left.

i don't know what has happened. it will probably all just go to pot. if not, it might be a combination of these things and also being the right time... fingers crossed.

Swiz, I can sympathise. We're still waking lots but because we are co-sleeping it's not as bad. We've cut out nighttime feeding but it's made no flippin difference. She still wakes and I've no energy to get up and down all night so we're co-sleeping.

Amber, am very keen to know about this sleep nanny thing but fear they'll make me leave her to cry it out or try and get me to do CC. Some nights when I'm really knackered I feel like that's my only option and I'm all for doing it the next night but in the cold light of day I can't bring myself too.

I'm interested in what you say about him picking up on your confidence thing. Tell us more. I do think we need some consistency here. I think that would be the key but I just can't seem to pull myself together and formulate a plan.

my LO likes to whinge a lot and thump his legs around and stuff, my approach was always to try and help him go to sleep so i would go back in a lot etc. since the sleep nanny, i try to go through a routine and put him down in his cot and have faith that he can do it himself. so i just leave and he whinges and does a lot of entertaining himself. i try not to go back in unless he really starts some sustained crying. i don't know if this helps. but i'm trying to work on the assumption that LO will put himself to sleep if i give him the chance rather than thinking that i have to intervene all the time.
anyway, its my birthday today so we went out for brunch and as such missed his perfect midday sleep time and he fell asleep in the sling. now i've put him in the cot, he woke up for the transfer and i'm listening to him whinge for a bit - i wonder if he'll be able to go to sleep - we'll see. i hope so.

We're trying to get a routine sorted, so hopefully that will help. I should try leaving him a little when he wakes in the night, but the cot is next to the bed so I wake up as soon as he starts muttering. If I leave him it often becomes full-scale wailing and he's more difficult to settle - hard to know what to do .

yeah, its really hard to leave him for a bit at night, as of course you can't sleep while they're making noise, and i think "well if i just got up and fed him, we could all get back to sleep so much quicker" but i'm trying to take a longterm approach and actually he's really surprised me that he's gone back to sleep without starting full blown wailing. anyway, his midday nap was terrible today, so will be a good test to see what happens tonight... maybe the good sleep has been related to good naps.

ps. swizz, i find the routine thing sooo hard, as it means sort of sacrificing any 'life' that i might of had in favour of staying home so that LO can nap at the proper times. oh for an easy child that would sleep anywhere in his pram...
i think we've kind of determined that a 9, 12, 3 nap routine works best, but that is just the most limiting timetable ever! i know think its a privilege to walk to a cafe 5 mins away for a take away coffee. sometimes, if i go all out, i even drink it in the park.
thank god for mumsnet huh!