Sleep is for the Weak! we got too big?!!??!?!!??

[cruisemum1]

can you believe that?! we got too big?
we should surely get an award from Mumsnet?

Tamdin: enjoy th wedding

Another 2-hr night for us, but def settling down. At MILs so he had to get used to a new cot as well. MIL has him this morning so I get a chance to catch up with you all!

Cruise and Redbeki: so glad for you. You're giving us all hope

Sounds like better nights all round. Finally figured out what has been up with DS - period arrived yesterday. My milk supply drops just beforehandm but I'm so irregular at the moment that it always takes me by surprise .

tam, enjoy the weekend and the wedding
swizz - uggghhh, bloody periods. i feel like i'm getting another one soon and i havent long had one. it all seems worse since having dd, pmt, symptoms and the actual period
amber hows everything with you? you're very quiet......

Hi all. I should join redbeki and cruise too as also getting 10 hr stretches now. See you on the early wakers thread cruise and redbeki!!!! 5.20 this morning and I broke the breastfeeding curfew!

Ginger - Sorry things are so tough at the moment. Really try to find out about some local classes/groups tho as it's the best time to meet people locally. I would recommend active things to make it easier to talk to people - like baby swimming/music. I couldnt have coped without my mummy friends and everyone finds it hard at times looking after little kiddies so they are very supportive. Whats the worst that can happen? Look for surestart centres and ask at baby clinic to find out what's on. Hav fun! x

Tam - don't put him in his own room. Noooooo! I regret doing this with my little one as I found it MUCH more tiring going through to her room every time she woke up. And I didnt want to go backwards and take her back to my room again. (Maybe I shouldnt say that cos it might work for you!) Hope things get better soon. x

swizz glad you've got your mil to help for a few days. make sure you try and have a nap each day.
re periods. agree with tibs since ds mine are worse. heavier and the PMT is awful.
Chocolatte don't worry have decided not to move ds atm. Think it's best to wait until we move house (oct/nov) and let him settle before tackling that one. maybe by that stage he'll go straight into his own bed!!

Ginger...i'm so not a baby group type of person but I'd def recommend trying a few. I took ds to my local play group for him to socialise but had no desire/intention to make new friends (don't see enough of my existing ones!)but after a few months I have got to know some of the girls quite well. There was an established 'in crowd' which could have been a bit intimidating but actually they were very welcoming and i made sure to go every week. I made an effort to go to a couple of coffee meet ups outside of playgroup and gradually have made friends (good friends with 1 in particular) and I'm actually going to a girly dinner/night at her house tonight. It all sounds a bit w**k but ime regardless of the exterior most women are trying to do their best at this old motherhood malarky, are happy to have someone to talk to who understands and most importantly are always happy to have a glass of wine!!
HTH XX

Ginger - I've just read Tams post and totally agree! The first time I went to a baby group I thought it was awful. ("I had to listen to my gorgeous baby crying - why did I need to hang around with strangers listening to all their babies too??!!") I also thought that I didnt need any new friends as couldnt find time to meet up with beloved old friends. However they are all at work! I've made some really good friends now....get yourself out there and meet some mummies!!! :O

Would also agree that 'activity' classes beter esp if you're nervious about meeting other mums. That way you don't HAVE to talk if you don't want to! We go to baby yoga which is fun and then for coffee afterwards. Am trying to persuade DH to try a few baby groups but no success as yet.

Ah, thanks everyone for your messages. Last night was a bit better. She was a nightmare to put down but slept until 11.15. Then in bed with us. A short party time smashing teddy into mummy and Daddy's face then asleep until 5.30 for a feed. I have a vauge recolection of her waking a couple of times for the dummy but it was an early start and she's starting to refuse to nap in the morning which is making her a bit grizzly. Anyway, she's tired now so better go.

ginger -yeah i know i said i was going..... just wanted to say that i shall be kinda sad to leave you . I hoipe you get your sleep issues resolved soon . Also, i have no one living near me so i have sought sanctuary on MN. my parents, sister and brother and families live at the coast, three out of my four closest girlfriends have moved away over the past 4 years and my inlaws live in hampshire, my sil lives in wales so i do know how you are feeling. chin up old girl - you are doing great! Cruise
xx

evening lovely ladies
i'm hoping for great things this evening, ha ha
dd gone to sleep without boob, she only had 30 mins nap this afternoon, shes been stuffed both ends with food and milk, i've left the covers off her cos shes been getting too hot and i have placed the lavender oil on her mattress .............lets see shall we?
i hope you all manage to get a reasonable, if not bloody fantastic nights sleep

Hello lovely ladies. Have been laying low on this thread and posting on another one for cc support as I know most of you haven't done it. Just thought I'd give an update but first for Cruise - well done that woman, but we'll miss you ! And also sorry to those of you who are still suffering have skimmed the news of crappola nights out there .

So.. cc so far: 1st night was HORRENDOUS . She cried for 1.5 hours then slep for 45 mins and then cried for 10, then slept for 2 hours, fed but then cried for 1 hour, slept for 2 hours, cried for half an hour, slept for 2 hours. She wasn't really screaming most of the time though - mainly a kind of monotonous droning cry - never sounded really distressed. She woke at 6.30 with a smile on her face! I didn't sleep a wink, needless to say due to sobbing . DD seemed fine the next day though .

Night 2 was MUCH better. She settled at bedtime within 15 mins and did the same on her two wakings in the night (fed at one but put down awake). I still didn't sleep though - think I am more dependent on her being there to sleep than she is on me .

Last night was similar but cried for only 5 mins at bedtime and after first feed. I slept while she did

Tonight no crying whatsoever when she went down awake and I left the room ! I can hardly believe it. We'll see what the rest of the night brings.

Obviously it's early days and she's by no means 'sleeping through' but at least so far the crying has been bearable after the awful first night and the wakings are reduced from every 2 hours and spending loads of time each time settling with feeds or cuddles. Am still feeding once as I think she needs it, so we'll see what happens with that. Will keep you all posted...

Right, I'm off now that I've got that off my chest

someone please tell me to stop going out!! went to playgroup friend's for dinner last night which was really good fun (basically talked about sex all night and drank wine) and was home for 11.30 but god i'm tired today. ds slept really well...woke at 12 and then 5.30 but wouldn't go back to sleep at 5.30 (he normally would until 7.30) so we've been up since then
Am def going to have a nap when he does this morning. the main problem is i've got friend staying tonight which requires more drinking and being up late and then we have my mum's belated 60th party to go to tomorrow night! don't know if i have the stamina for all this. x

tam - (tibs puts hands on hips - 'will you stop having a life of your own, you're a mummy for gods sake'!!)
seriously tho, good on ya girl!!! someones gotta show the rest of us how its done have a boozetastic weekend!!! if you dont want to feel yucky the next day, get hold of some effervescent vit c and pop that in a pint of water to drink before bed. works a treat!

lilysma, you're always welcome here, you know that. you're one of us (sleepless mummies} until you graduate!

our night
7pm bed asleep (no boob)
9pm woke (pooey nappy) dp worked his magic
10pm few murmurs, dp held her hand
5.50am woke for feed and up for day!!!!!!!
i kid ye not, almost 8 solid hours sleep!!!!!!!!! sleep flaming tastic

Tibsy, freaking amazing. Superb. Pleeeeeeese don't leave me

Tam, I'm jealous. I think I need to organise a night out, perhaps to a hotel!! for sleep!!!

ginger, i'm not going anywhere sweetie, just enjoying my moment of glory and keeping it in my memory to hopefully see me through the next crap night i get

tibs - am in awe of your night!

well our new laptop that we got a few weeks ago has died , so have been missing MN this week. DP got a laptop from work so i'm being naughty and logging in through his work server until ours is fixed.

anyway, we have had a horrible week and i've been in tears most of it. felt so tired yesterday i felt like vomiting. i've had that a few times - does anyone else get that? feeling so bad that we're getting a night nanny for 3 nights from sunday to help us get some kind of routine going and see if she can help get him sleeping a bit better at night.

naps have gone to hell this week as well, oh deary me.

swizz, i've given up on teh books too. weisbluth just made me feel incredibly guilty about not 'letting' my child sleep. what the!?!? i maintain that the only good book i've read on motherhood is naomi stadlen what mothers do (especially when it looks like nothing). you can order it from active birth centre (and no i don't get a commission from naomi, but maybe i should

ginger love, sorry things sound so hard. seriously, other mums keep me sane. yesterday i was in tears, but as soon as i met up in the park with another mum, i felt better. it can make a difference i think, even though all those groups seem naff, it helps to just have adult interaction. sometimes i seethe internally when another mum with 6 week old baby reports that they are only waking once at night, but i've learned to smile and move onto the next mum
i think its like anything, there are some people you'll like and some you won't, and i've met some really nice people in the end. we're all in this crazy motherhood malarkey together and i don't think any of us really know what we are doing!

oh dear god, LO is screaming. he needs to nap. i can't do anything to get him to sleep. sigh.

Thanks Amber and sorry for your recent bad nights.

Amber: def kno the feeling about being so tired you feel sick . Hope things improve soon. Do you think it's a growth spurt? DS's last about a week and he gets v v fractious. Will have a look for the book - rememebr seeing it reviewed a fe years ago and thinking it looked good.

Well, he went to sleep within 20 mins of going upstairs and having his bath - a record! Woke up 45 mins later (does anyone else's LO do this? Drives me batty) but then went off again quite quickly. Am feeding him if I think he's hungry. Last night a bit of an improvement - mostly 2 hr wakings but 1 3-hr stretch.

DS def trying to move - he;s rocking back and forth and boucing up and down. But his preferred method is flinging himself face forward into the carpet, which doesn't get him very far .

Tamdin: keep upwith the good work

Swiz, my DD almost always wakes 30 -45 mins after going to bed in the evening. If we replug her with the dummy straight away she'll drop back off quickly.

We're really struggling with day time naps too at the mo although I think our little excursion to Scotland and recent illness is probably to blame for knocking her out of sync.

DD is also rocking backwards and forwards tying to crawl and although I would love her to I know it's going to be a nightmare once she's mobile!

sadly its not a growth spurt. he wakes up but is not interested in feeding. i'm not sure what he's waking up for exactly ... the company???

oh yeah, ps. we also often have that 45 min waking thing - is normally quite easy to settle though.

Can't stay away!
Tibsy.yeeehhaaa!
Do you think the lavender helped?!

tibsy - how did last nigt go?